Female Game Characters Photoshopped to Average American Proportions
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Uh. How does that make any sense. Cortana is a created image of a woman...she can literally be ANYTHING! Why does she arbitrarily have to be a good looking woman? "The way most drawn/animated characters" tend to be? That's just using the status quo as a defense, it's not a justification of anything. And how does any of this excuse how Cortana was made into more of a sex doll with each game?Chaos Isaac said:
While I agree that there should be more muscular women out there, that doesn't have anything to do with the point they're trying to make.
For some reason people can't seem to create any women who don't have fashion model bodies. Men can be anywhere on the spectrum.
I have personally met women that have very similar bodies as all the ones featured (as close as a human can be to a cartoon) This is yet again more SJW needlessness in the name of "game journalism"Conrad Zimmerman said:Female Game Characters Photoshopped to Average American Proportions
Eating disorder awareness group asks game developers for more realistic character designs.
Tight waists are de rigueur for female character designs in games but, if you have taken a look around, their general dominance isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the world we live in. Seeking to spark discussion on the topic of depicting women in games in a manner more in line with reality, Bulimia.com [http://www.bulimia.com/] (a website providing information on eating disorders including bulimia and anorexia) has released a series of images showing what a variety of characters might look like if they conformed to the measurements of an average American woman.
Some of the images are more dramatic than others. Jade from Mortal Kombat winds up with a more subtle treatment than, say, Rikku of Final Fantasy X-2, who appears squished down more than anything. Other notable characters include Tifa Lockheart (Final Fantasy Disidua 02), Lara Croft (Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness), and Cortana (Halo 4).
To explain the motivation behind the making of the images, the site reads, "Some gaming studios boast their hyper-realistic lighting techniques, touting natural cloud movements as the latest features of their games. And with that kind of attention to detail, it makes us wonder, why can't they accurately portray the female body?"
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Certainly game designers could make the decision to depict less toned flesh. Technology is clearly up to the task, they merely need the desire to do so. It's worth noting that Bulimia.com does not condemn the developers behind the idealized source material nor claim that such bodies are impossible, rather that they are unrealistic as a standard.
Source: Bulimia.com [http://www.bulimia.com/examine/video-games-realistic-body-types/#]
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How is physical fitness linked to things that require physical fitness? Well... err... dafuq? Are you kidding me?Burned Hand said:
Outrunning something at speed = needing to be fit.
Being acrobatic = needing to be fit.
Being able to be calm and collected in order to shoot after exertion = needing to be fit.
Are you just being deliberately obtuse for any reason, or do you seriously not see the fucking point? It's pretty fucking crystal, sugar.
Meh, sizes are meaningless with all the vanity sizing/size inflation that's happening. Basically, as countries get fatter the avarage size increases, meaning what was an 10 10-15 years ago could now an 8 or even a 6. Meanwhile, petite women end up wearing weird sizes like 0 or 00. (And then they get yelled at for online for being slim and tiny and wanting clothes that fit them, because they're 'unnatural' for some reason.)
Oh look, it's another series of daft images that boil down a character to a single trait (The fact they're female) and then use that as a comparison for "Realism".
I'm sorry, but, no, nobody wants their video game characters to resemble obesity, well, without good reason, anyway.
Generally gluttony is a negative trait reversed for villains.
Either way, how about instead of "This character is a woman, therefore they must look like all women as their only defining trait is their sex" we actually look at the character in question, and if you want to try to make a point of their appearance, instead compare them to people who actually do something vaguely similar to what the characters are depicted doing.
So, whilst, yes, the "Average (American) woman" may be depicted as overweight. The average British female explorer who owns a mansion with an assault course in the backyard and has a history of being in good shape likely will not be depicted as being overweight.
I'm sorry, but, no, nobody wants their video game characters to resemble obesity, well, without good reason, anyway.
Generally gluttony is a negative trait reversed for villains.
Either way, how about instead of "This character is a woman, therefore they must look like all women as their only defining trait is their sex" we actually look at the character in question, and if you want to try to make a point of their appearance, instead compare them to people who actually do something vaguely similar to what the characters are depicted doing.
So, whilst, yes, the "Average (American) woman" may be depicted as overweight. The average British female explorer who owns a mansion with an assault course in the backyard and has a history of being in good shape likely will not be depicted as being overweight.
Yes, all very well and good, but...a few problems.
For starters, could you put Nabooru's nose on right? You said 'American proportions'. We don't look like that.
Next problem... Sonya Blade is in the ARMY. Her proportions should be average military personnel.
And finally, I don't play Helo, but I DO know that Cortana is not a real person! You edited a hologram for 'realism'. What the hell?
For starters, could you put Nabooru's nose on right? You said 'American proportions'. We don't look like that.
Next problem... Sonya Blade is in the ARMY. Her proportions should be average military personnel.
And finally, I don't play Helo, but I DO know that Cortana is not a real person! You edited a hologram for 'realism'. What the hell?
These two things top the list of why this makes no sense. I know a guy fresh out of the army. He's skinny with almost no muscle mass to speak of. They are trained to be just strong enough to carry a 100lb pack up a hill. Any added body mass is a waste, including muscle. They simply don't eat enough to bulk up, which maxes out their metabolism since their bodies have to be grossly efficient at processing energy.FalloutJack said:
And fattening up a computer hologram? This makes no sense! Why would a holographic representation of an artificial being be designed with below average in mind? If a computer is going to be given a body, it would most assuredly be the ideal according to its designer.
Her tits seem to become bigger and bigger with each game. And that's without mentioning the hartman hips she started sporting in 4.Bertie Wooster said:
http://www.stealthybox.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/cortanaevolution.jpg
Not really seeing how 4 was less sexualized. Maybe you didn't like it as much but it sure looks like more sex appeal was crammed in there to me.
She wants to be beautiful? When the everloving Hell was that a part of her character!? And everyone wants to be beautiful? First time that I heard about that. And the most sexualized change in her appearance was made in the gap between halo 3 and halo 4. Where she was stuck on a derelict starship thousands of light-years away from Earth slowly going insane. Exactly when would she decide to give herself boob job during that? On that note, the gap between 2 and 3 had her being held kidnapped and mind raped by the Gravemind, when would she give herself a boob job during THAT!?
Throw all logic away? There was never any logic in her tits getting bigger with each game. It didn't fit her character, it didn't make sense in terms of the plot, it's nothing more than pandering, and it's the worst kind of pandering, the kind that
Source needed because even the graphs that people posted of other country's average BMI fails to show that.erttheking said:
Maybe it's average size for women in AMERICA and maybe even UK, but all first world countries? I fucking doubt that, especially in countries like France and you did say "1st world countries in general" as if it was an observable phenomenon across most countries but the opposite is more the case it seems.
This is honestly quite terrifying, that the american average is now the new normal and some people are actually trying to sell us this kool aid and passing off chubby (or at least what is considered chubby in most countries that aint the US) as being the new normal.
PS: I'm laughing over some people's attempt to defend photoshopped Rikku as anything resembling normal.
Her head alone is monstrously, abnormally huge and out of proportion compared to the rest of her body. Proportion wise the others seem to check out but Rikku is just inhuman, it's more like someone is wearing a rikku suit with an oversized head then an actual human being.
No, that's MORBIDLY obese, now take a look at this:erttheking said:
http://imgur.com/ol8rjpr
Looks pretty average right? Hardly what you'd consider obese.
Wrong, that's also obese. I know, because that was me, when I weighted over 200 pounds on a 5'6 frame, with a BMI of 33+ I was solidly in the obese category.
And what's the point of that comparison? the real women who do the same thing as those video game women are also thinner than the "average" women, and as I've pointed out above, your perception of what's fat and what's obese is rather skewed. It's like you took the overweight > obese > morbidly obese scale and made it into normal > a little fat > obese.
You may be right they may not be the exact proportions, as Kate Uptons breasts may actually be larger being an E, meaning she has More fat than Rikku. I am talking about the bodies, not the face, as you can have extremely obese women with skinny faces and petite women with fat faces so that is not as relevant as the proportions of the waist, hip and thighs. You can take measurements from both Uptons picture and Rikkus and compare them. Thighs, hips, waist, yes check out with uptons. Now of course there were people who screamed upton was overweight too...Johnisback said:
http://www.skinnygossip.com/kate-upton-is-well-marbled/
http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/02/kate-uptons-trainer-defends-her-porky-body.html
Not even her trainer believes that though, even if her breasts are fatter than Rikkus image there.
reasonable vision, did you see Upton's other pictures? Yes, same body type, however it looks like upton may actually have a bit more meat on her than Rikku in some of the pictures.
