Final Fantasy VIII Getting High-Res PC Release

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KDR_11k

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Careful, S-E uses some shitty download store where being able to redownload your games for more than a week costs extra (and even then you only get to do it for a year). After that you need to buy the game again if you deleted your download.
 

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not sure if want ....

on one had, loved the card game, loved most the summons (FF8 Bahamut is best Bahamut), like the side quests, most felt rewarding.

on the other, the story is shit, the characters are shit or forgettable, and the world just isn't that interesting.


like others have said, should a gave 9 a face lift, better game all round
 

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GabeZhul said:
Also, if Omega Weapon scales, then what kind of pussy would want to take on it under level 100?! I mean, come on, what is the fun about beating him if he is not at full power? It's just unsportsmanlike. Well, not that the Aura + Holy War + Meltdown + Limit-Break-Rapefest tactics I used were any better, but still...! :p
Meltdown doesn't work on Omega last I checked, Doom Train does though.

>.> and last time I try that 'holy war tactic, I got killed, between HW castings XD

Aura+low HP induced Limit break Bum Rush FTW though :D
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
There's a problem with that: Apparently, Square-Enix don't have the original PSX game assets anymore.

Remember how the PSX games had incredibly beautiful 2D backgrounds? Well, those 2D backgrounds were actually created at a much higher resolution than the PSX (or indeed CRT TVs at the time) could handle. Hence the in-game 2D art was downrezzed from the hi-res original artwork. If you play any of the games on an emulator on PC, it's actually really noticeable unless you use hefty amounts of screen smoothing (aka, basically slather vaseline on-screen), and emulate TV scanlines.

The problem is that, game development being the messy unorganised business it is, Square doesn't seem to have the original hi-res artwork of those games anymore. They've got chunks of it, sure, but a huge portion of it seems to have been lost. Archiving material simply wasn't a priority back in the PS1 days. And if you want to properly up-res those PS1 games, then you need the hi-res art to work from.
Where did you get the information that Square "lost" all the original hi-res artwork to FF7? I can find no evidence in the link you provided. A lengthy internet search turned up only one thing for me: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1di4bv/remember_how_cool_prerendered_backgrounds_were/

This would appear to be a rumor.

I hope everyone remembers, "We are going to release FF7 in HD! ... Nah! Just kidding lol. Have a PC re-release lul."
 

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The story of FF8 is very weird, especially after disk one. The story seems to focus on the relationship between Squall and Riona as the A plot instead of the "have to save the world from a great evil" as the A plot. It's a very niche story that if you don't like the Squall-Riona relationship you won't enjoy it. If you ask me, Quistis would have made a MUCH better girlfriend than the needy and essentially useless Riona. And it's not like Squall and Quistis couldn't have a relationship either, Squall is 17 and Quistis is 18! They are practically the same age!

What got me about this game was it's battle system. Oh boy, this battle system had too much going on with it! GFs, Card Games, drawing magic, customizing the screen, attaching certain items. IT WAS TOO MUCH!!! FF7 and FF6 had simple and effective battle systems but FF8's battle system was just overload.

All in all, I gave the game a C-. Nice effort, but not enough to really keep my full attention.

FF1: C- (not bad, but very bare bones)

FF2: F (deemed unplayable and had to overhaul it to make is actually playable.)

FF3: D- (very medeocre but a bit better than FF2)

FF4: B+ (One of my top 3)

FF5: C- (good battle system, lackluster story)

FF6: A (practically one of the best RPGs of all time. One of my favorite games of all time)

FF7: A- (very good and one of the great hits. Very "Mr. Popular")

FF8: C- (see above statements)

FF9: B (good throwback, nicely done, not every character is memorable though)

FF10: C (Nice game, ups and downs aside the first FF game I played)

FF10-2: D (not exactly what I suspected and was too heavy on side quests and J-pop)

FF11: N/A (did not play)

FF12: D+ (Decent story, just everything else was mixed up, bleak or just shoehorned side quests)

FF13: C (Very similar to FF10. I like it better than FF10 because Lightning is a much better developed and relevant Main Character than Tidus. I also find Lightning's Gunblade FAR superior to Squall's in design and functionality.)

FF13-2: D (see FF10-2. If it didn't work once, why should it work again? that and while I do applaud Serah's death, I feel like the end of the world is a bit of a nut kicker and insert Sephiroth copy number 452: Caius Ballad)

FF14: F (had to remake and apologize for it. one of the top 3 worst next to FF2 and FF3)
 
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I hope it does see a release in the west. I have FF9 and FF7 but I held off on getting FF8 because of how mixed the opinions on it are. If it does get released I'll probably buy it so I have the full collection.
The good part of it is that FF8's PC version doesn't have screwed up music like FF7's.

Gizmo1990 said:
I liked 8 but I want 9. I love 9. 9 is still in my top ten favorite games. It is my favorite FF game. Just GIVE ME 9!!!!
Sure, but 7 and 8 already had PC versions released in the 1990's. 9 never got one. They would have to port the console version to PC. I don't know if they would do it. I would own it though.
 

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I'm...not seeing anything really worth the purchase here. I don't get these HD rereleases, I really don't. The polygons get a smoothing out for bigger screens, that's it. I know it's not typically okay to be this guy, but emulation does almost the exact same thing for FREE! It doesn't look like any extra detail has gone into the characters from the original. I'd happily pay full retail for a remake of everything from 6-9, but if all that's out there is rereleases, HD or no, I'm not buying.
Well for one thing, these re-releases run at modern resolutions. They may not be widescreen but when you alt-tab back to Windows you screen won't need to resize. It also makes these games run under modern OS's without a shitload of user made patches.

Now, if that's not worth it to you, so be it but I would rather pay an extra $10 for a game made for Windows 98 to run well on Windows 8 64 bit.
 

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Kheapathic said:
Well with VII, X, X-2 and now this, I wonder if IX or XII are also going to get the pretty up treatment.
If 9 and 12 get HD updates I'm preordering that shit for all its worth.

Red X said:
Where's the remake of FF6, who long must i wait (never could like 8, myself. It felt tedious )
I'm playing through FF6 for the first time ever :). Bought the Anthology set on Ebay and a PSone with a screen attached.

I can kinda see what all the hype is about.
 

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Then it is a horrible way of satirizing things. I mean, even I could make a video like this by putting my little brother in front of the mic and telling him to read up a bunch inflammatory and/or untrue "facts" about popular things in his most obnoxious voice just to gather views, and you probably couldn't tell the difference. It's just lame attention-whoring and nothing else, and I simply cannot laugh at that.

I mean, TheSpoonyOne made an entire chain of videos about FFVIII, dissecting it and declaring it the worst thing ever (until he got to FFXIII, that is), but it never really bothered me because he at least played the game and knew what he was talking about, and I can respect well-researched opinions. This video is nothing more than a contemptible attempt to piss off fans and cater to the hate-dom for the views, and that is something I simply cannot get behind, no matter the subject.
I dont care.

I find him funny and to be honest seeing how annoyed and justified you got about it shows why his humour works. The guy who made the video even said it was dumb, did you even finish the video? because if not thats kind of hypocritical. Don't answer that though because I honestly don't care and just put this here to avoid low content.

Now forget about it and go enjoy FF in peace.
 

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Red X said:
KingdomFantasyXIII said:
FF13: C (Very similar to FF10. I like it better than FF10 because Lightning is a much better developed and relevant Main Character than Tidus. I also find Lightning's Gunblade FAR superior to Squall's in design and functionality.)

FF13-2: D (see FF10-2. If it didn't work once, why should it work again? that and while I do applaud Serah's death, I feel like the end of the world is a bit of a nut kicker and insert Sephiroth copy number 452: Caius Ballad)

FF14: F (had to remake and apologize for it. one of the top 3 worst next to FF2 and FF3)
You forgot 13-3, that looks like an abomination (not really, it just looks... different), It seems like Majora's Mask with Princess Zelda as the main character XD
I can't judge that yet due to it not being out. I have to play the game before I give it a score. However, I am going to look at the game as "the cup is half full" because it does have a Majora's Mask vibe to it.
 

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As has been said before, Final Fantasy VIII already had a PC port. That said, I do thing this recent bit of attention from Square Enix suggests that Final Fantasy XV is now extremely likely to include PC in its cross platform selection.

It's still a little bit odd for the PC to get this kind of attention from non-indie/doujin Japanese companies. Japan would seem to be the country with the lowest PC gamer to console gamer ratio.
 

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It's easily my favorite Final Fantasy title, so I'm really hoping it will see a Western release.
 

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I do not have enough middle-fingers to give to Squeenix right now. FFVII gets a lousy porting and THIS gets the HD update? I begin to suspect that I'm actively being trolled...

Feh, not like they've done anything else I give a damn about in the past 5 years. Just go ahead and keep putting your effort into FF13 spinoffs and throwing us older fans your leavings...
 

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Lunar Templar said:
GabeZhul said:
Also, if Omega Weapon scales, then what kind of pussy would want to take on it under level 100?! I mean, come on, what is the fun about beating him if he is not at full power? It's just unsportsmanlike. Well, not that the Aura + Holy War + Meltdown + Limit-Break-Rapefest tactics I used were any better, but still...! :p
Meltdown doesn't work on Omega last I checked, Doom Train does though.

>.> and last time I try that 'holy war tactic, I got killed, between HW castings XD

Aura+low HP induced Limit break Bum Rush FTW though :D
Meltdown most certainly works, though not with 100% accuracy. I should know, I have beaten Omega Weapon about ten times and I always used Meltdown on it to inflict Vit0. :p

JarinArenos said:
I do not have enough middle-fingers to give to Squeenix right now. FFVII gets a lousy porting and THIS gets the HD update? I begin to suspect that I'm actively being trolled...

Feh, not like they've done anything else I give a damn about in the past 5 years. Just go ahead and keep putting your effort into FF13 spinoffs and throwing us older fans your leavings...
As I brought up already, I actually think that they are using FFVIII as a test-run to see how such a remake can and should be done, so that they will have a group experienced in such a field once they get around to FFVII. In other words, this FFVIII release is a guinea pig.
 

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This game has existed on the PC for a long time. But at least hopefully this port will be significantly improved to the point of very good.

The old Final Fantasy PC releases deserved a new re-release. Dealing with Square Store to buy Final Fantasy VII is a hassle, though. They need to finally get the game on Steam. They've been updating the Steam database, so they've got to be planning on it. They also need to dump their current DRM for Steamworks when they do.

Maybe if the games do well enough, Square might consider porting games that haven't previously had PC ports to the PC again. Like maybe Final Fantasy IX or something like that.
CBanana said:
As has been said before, Final Fantasy VIII already had a PC port. That said, I do thing this recent bit of attention from Square Enix suggests that Final Fantasy XV is now extremely likely to include PC in its cross platform selection.

It's still a little bit odd for the PC to get this kind of attention from non-indie/doujin Japanese companies. Japan would seem to be the country with the lowest PC gamer to console gamer ratio.
I don't know about extremely likely. But I would hope something like that would happen, whatever the quality of Final Fantasy XV.

It certainly at least seems to improve the possibility of such an event. As well as PC releases from them in general.

I have to think that maybe this sort of thing is related to the fact they recently released Final Fantasy XIV which was originally a PC exclusive. They have lots of people in Japan and abroad who bought gaming PCs to play Final Fantasy XIV. That means there's a Final Fantasy fanbase on the PC for certain. They probably want to sell more games to that audience.

And you make a good point about doujinshi. Most of the PC games out of Japan are doujinshi. I'd like to see the market shift in a direction that we see more Japanese games on the PC outside of the indie/doujin community in Japan.
 

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Should we check back in about this project in about 10 years. Just the fact they say they are making it doesn't ensure it comes out or that it will be any good.

Because I think lately they been cashing in a bit too much with Fan's fandom and the IP's name.
 

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Kheapathic said:
Well with VII, X, X-2 and now this, I wonder if IX or XII are also going to get the pretty up treatment.
XII still looks pretty good in my opinion.
But it would be pretty cool.
 

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So, what do you do when inspiration runs low, you lose millions of yen despite good sales and you can't seem to finish that title you've been working on for like 4+ years (Versus XIII), Squeenix?

You rerelease and then some.

That's just delaying the inevitable, Squeenix. Eventually you will have to take risks.
 

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EstrogenicMuscle said:
I have to think that maybe this sort of thing is related to the fact they recently released Final Fantasy XIV which was originally a PC exclusive. They have lots of people in Japan and abroad who bought gaming PCs to play Final Fantasy XIV. That means there's a Final Fantasy fanbase on the PC for certain. They probably want to sell more games to that audience.
FFXIV was never going to be a PC exclusive. The UI was designed from the ground up to be playable on a gamepad, and the PS3 version was originally supposed to launch a few months after PC. Then they realized they have an utterly broken game on their hands, so they kept it free to play and postponed the PS3 release. PS3 was always supposed to be the "true" launch, PC was just testing the waters.

Squenix is pumping out Final Fantasy ports on iOS too (not very big in Japan either (don't quote me on that though, I have absolutely no idea how well it's doing over there)), so I wouldn't take this as a sign of PC support for future titles in the series. I think it's safe to say that FFXI and FFXIV had PC versions only because the western MMO crowd swings almost exclusively that way.

GabeZhul said:
Also, if Omega Weapon scales, then what kind of pussy would want to take on it under level 100?! I mean, come on, what is the fun about beating him if he is not at full power? It's just unsportsmanlike. Well, not that the Aura + Holy War + Meltdown + Limit-Break-Rapefest tactics I used were any better, but still...! :p
To be fair, Omega sports the greatest potential of brutally murdering you regardless of the level. The only real difference is whether he dies in one Lionheart/Duel, or five...