Force A Teen Girl To Swordfight, Go To Jail

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

I think I'll go for creepy fat dudes who have a distinct lack of morals for the blame.

Another day, another assault I guess. She's lucky she isn't dead though, being beaten by a log and then by another weapon designed to be effective can't possibly be good for her.

 

[shootandshiver]

True that. Life was better when things were apreciated.

 

[badgersprite]

Um, yeah, that's straight up assault. There's no two ways about it.

 

[Thyunda]

fixed that for you mate.

honestly, if you consider "beat them with a stick, sit on them, beat them with a stick again, then make them strip to their underwear" an even SOMEWHAT reasonable "punishment", you have some serious problems.

Yeah... Don't do that "fixed that for you" bullshit. Its idiotic and fucking obnoxious. If you do not like what I say, good for you, no one cares. And I would rather parents do their job than allow us to move even further into this stupid child coddling society we are becoming where bastard kids effectively own their parents.
If the daughter does not like the rules that are laid down she can leave. Simple as that.

At no point did it become acceptable for a parent to beat a child with a stick and then strip her. That is totally wrong. My parents raised me by beating me with whatever was close at hand, but not for two hours in the early hours. That's ridiculous.
It's not child-coddling to arrest somebody for what is clearly assault. Would you be saying the same thing if the man had done this to his wife/girlfriend/partner? Or would that be indicative of a woman-coddling state?

And leave? It's not that easy. She's sixteen. Where the hell is she going to go? I left home. But I'm three years older than her, and a college graduate. There's a huge difference.

 

[BanthaFodder]

fixed that for you mate.

honestly, if you consider "beat them with a stick, sit on them, beat them with a stick again, then make them strip to their underwear" an even SOMEWHAT reasonable "punishment", you have some serious problems.

Yeah... Don't do that "fixed that for you" bullshit. Its idiotic and fucking obnoxious. If you do not like what I say, good for you, no one cares. And I would rather parents do their job than allow us to move even further into this stupid child coddling society we are becoming where bastard kids effectively own their parents.
If the daughter does not like the rules that are laid down she can leave. Simple as that.

1. yes, parents should do their jobs. this was not "parents doing their jobs". a 300lb man beat a 16 year old girl with a fucking tree branch. parents need to provide three things to their children: guidance, love, and discipline. this poor excuse for a parent did not exibit any of these. this was not discipline, it was abuse. he beat her with a tree branch. anyone who responds to their child disobeying them by beating them for two hours with a stick and forcing them to strip into their underwear does not deserve to be a parent.

2. I agree, most parents are completely pussy-whipped when it comes to their kids. but countering one extreme with another is not the answer. a parent shouldn't bow down to their kids and never punish them, but that doesn't mean that excessive physical/sexual abuse is justified. good parents go for a happy medium. a spanking here, a slap on the wrists/mouth there, some soap in the mouth for swearing, but this guy beat his step-daughter with a wooden sword. it's like if someone had a tail light out, so a cop pulls them over and sprays them with mace. it's excessive, unneccesary, and a disgusting abuse of power.

3. it looks like the girl would be better off leaving than living in a house with an abusive psycho who punishes her with a 2+ hour beating and forces her to strip to her underwear. kids disobey their parents. it happens. if a kid disobeys their parents, they should be punished. this was not punishment. it was a full-grown man beating the hell out of someone smaller, weaker, and less experienced than him.

 

[Biosophilogical]

I'd like to pin it on the escapist, the dad probably read the religion and politics section.

We aren't all evil! Most of us? Sure. All? Most assuredly not ... probably ... in theory.

OT: That guy is just messed up. Seriously messed up. So I blame him for being a nut-job, and his wife/baby-mother for getting giggity with a nut-job.

 

[I Have No Idea]

When I got to the sermon part, I was like "Hoo boy, those Jesus haters are gonna eat this up."

 

[Moromillas]

Yes, the beating was bad, I don't think we're seeing the full story. Do you guys honestly think a parent will just out of the blue he just decides to beat her, there isn't even alcohol or drugs involved. I'll tell you what usually is the case. Little brat thinks she knows everything there is to know, and wants to do exactly as she pleases. Parents explain that that's not the case, and she must adhere to the rules of the house. Brat thinks that the parents know nothing, then does exactly as she pleases, and in turn causes a tone of grief not just for the family, but all the relations.

I highly doubt this is just a one time thing that little miss brat has done. More like a punishment that got out of hand when all else has failed. The sad thing is other little shits that want to ignore pesky things like "rules," "ethics," and "morals" will now view this story and think they can threaten to call the cops if they don't get their way, and don't get to do whatever they feel like.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

And I would rather parents do their job than allow us to move even further into this stupid child coddling society we are becoming where bastard kids effectively own their parents.
If the daughter does not like the rules that are laid down she can leave. Simple as that.

Children can´t just leave, as they are usually dependent on their parents, which puts the parents in a position of power, which, in turn, requires moderation and a certain degree of wisdom of those parents, when exercising said power.
No moderation and wisdom was present, so this is not a case of a parent doing his/her job, but of abuse, which is a criminal offense. Parents have a right to punish their children and a duty to do it in a sensible and non-violently insane and dangerous way.

Of course, if you actually consider this story an example of "parents doing their job" (and I´m saying this as someone in favor of a good, strict punishment), there is probably very little anyone can do for you.

 

[PrototypeC]

It's almost like I'm in such a bad mood that something stupid and offensive like this can only make me feel better, if in the sense that I have a direction to my hatred now.

 

[deckai]

Well, I don't know why people say he beat her with a stick.. she wore armor, she had a sword on her own.. and saying she had bruises, I know girls that get bruises when you look too hard at them. Ok, maybe the two hours part was a bit too much, but I guess he had to "fight" her till she got tired.

Also, the source article is more than sketchy. What kind of party did she go, why wasn't she allowed to go, did she do something in the past. I'm in no way defending child abuse, and I'm not saying that the father was right, but it's also wrong to blame him without knowing the circumstances.

 

[BanthaFodder]

Well, I don't know why people say he beat her with a stick.. she wore armor, she had a sword on her own.. and saying she had bruises, I know girls that get bruises when you look too hard at them. Ok, maybe the two hours part was a bit too much, but I guess he had to "fight" her till she got tired.

Also, the source article is more than sketchy. What kind of party did she go, why wasn't she allowed to go, did she do something in the past. I'm in no way defending child abuse, and I'm not saying that the father was right, but it's also wrong to blame him without knowing the circumstances.

I'd agree if it wasn't for that whole "forced her to strip to her underwear" part at the end.
not trying to sound like a smartass, as that is a legitimate point, but forcing her to strip moved this from "sounds like abuse, but there is a chance that we're not getting to complete story" to "okay, even if the sword fight thing was blown out of proportion, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here".

 

[Royas]

ok this is an odd story, but didn't the girl have Armour and a sword of her own? how do you get that badly beaten? i'v done larping with guys twice my size and no fat on them what so ever. and they were cheep bastards that would only use what they could find for free to make their weapons. so we had a lot of cardboard bedding foam and metal rods for cores, i had a pvc pipe get shattered by one of their "boffers" and i have yte to see that happen when fighting with similarly made boffers (ie: pvc cores, pool noodle, and ductape) i took some hits but i blocked the worst ones, i never took a single bruise and i didn't even use armor.

what ever the case this was a beating and they are gonna get what they deserve with the law what ever. i just don't understand how she took such a bad beating. also if you know your parents are bat shit crazy why would you lie to them about a party like that

SCAdian weapons (and this guy looks SCAdian, not like a LARPer) are made of rattan, and can easily break bone. I've seen some pretty bad injuries occur in the list because someone got careless. That's why SCA armor is made to VERY stringent standards, safety rules are STRICTLY enforced and care is taken to have fights be fun and not deadly at all times. That's the only reason bad injuries are rare. Bruises... now I've had some lovely 4 color bruises covering huge sections of my torso and arms after fighting, to the point that moving was hard the next day. Rattan may be less dangerous than hardwood, but it still hurts like a *****.

Give me a rattan blade, and I can seriously mess a person up. Much like I'd like to do to this fellow. Or better yet, let's see how he does with live steel.

 

[Goldhawk777]

If she had learned to sword fight, she could have "Challenged" her stepfather on his decision to go to the party.....

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Making her strip down and watch tv? Beating her with a stick?
Sounds to me like this guy has some sexual perversions he likes to unleash on her. Either way hes a goddamn pervert and deserves to be locked away for a good long while.

 

[eels05]

It was probably the part where she was 'forced to strip down to her underwear' afterwards that sounded a tad creepy in the eyes of the law.
Just a guess.

 

[deckai]

I'd agree if it wasn't for that whole "forced her to strip to her underwear" part at the end.
not trying to sound like a smartass, as that is a legitimate point, but forcing her to strip moved this from "sounds like abuse, but there is a chance that we're not getting to complete story" to "okay, even if the sword fight thing was blown out of proportion, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here".

Not trying to sound too defensive, but we have apparently no eyewitnesses, the whole "forced her to strip to her underwear" could have just been, her parents ordering her to take her armor off, besides it was inside her home, it wasn't done to humiliate her, or is it humiliating if I run to my room after the shower at my parents house? I'm just saying, the only statements we have are from the Lt. who got his info probably from the girl (If I didn't overlooked something), in which case it's more than likely that the event was blown out of proportion. Again, I don't defend abuse, I just doubt that both sources are really reliable.