gamestop needs to start being not only a distributor and kingpin of used games, but also must become a developer of AAA smash hit titles to have anything on Steam.
Former Impulse Boss Predicts GameStop Will Beat Steam
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It's still only one requirement: Have Steam running. Now I agree with it not being fair when your account gets hacked and you can't play your games, but offline mode has always worked for me and all my games, and I havn't heard of random account terminations that weren't fixed (MW2 thing).Sir John the Net Knight said:
I guess for people in my situation where none of that is in question the DRM isn't intrusive
, sorry you've had problems with all of that.
Steam has a monopoly on digital distribution. If they wanna overcome them, Gamestop would need to put a lot of time and money to do it and considering that they're not guaranteed to overcome Steam, they probably would play it safe. Also, come on now, this is like trying to dethrone WoW, you can try, but its not gonna happen in the next half decade.
The Citadel from Mass Effect is the internet? Woooaaah, WHAT A TWIST! OT: Yeeeaaah, he's probably wrong there.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
He may be the boss but he clearly does not understand marketing. He also probably doesn't realize what kind of sales Steam has. Even a discount price for loyal customers will probably not be as good as the occasional 50% Steam sale or the Christmas sale.
My skills at prognostication are limited, but speaking as a PC gamer the idea of giving one company all my cross-platform marketing information for a few dollars off of a game gives me the creeps.
I also have a warm and fuzzy feeling towards Steam that in all honesty it hasn't entirely earned: a game company using its capital and market share to market the works of other game companies and even highlight the work of the scrappy li'l independents? Isn't that sweet! (jigs off on a rainbow, followed by flocks of singing bluebirds and butterflies playing accordians)
Whereas, GameStop... (Cue dark clouds and evil overlord theme.) Aside from everything else I've mentioned elsewhere, I don't want "those people" dominating the digital distribution market like they've nearly taken over the brick-and-mortar specialty games market. They've already pretty well screwed over the PC market with regard to what they've done with their physical stores; why would I want to give them a chance to do it again with digital ones?
I know they're a long way from perfect, but I'll stick with the digital store that's run by the company who actually make games.
I also have a warm and fuzzy feeling towards Steam that in all honesty it hasn't entirely earned: a game company using its capital and market share to market the works of other game companies and even highlight the work of the scrappy li'l independents? Isn't that sweet! (jigs off on a rainbow, followed by flocks of singing bluebirds and butterflies playing accordians)
Whereas, GameStop... (Cue dark clouds and evil overlord theme.) Aside from everything else I've mentioned elsewhere, I don't want "those people" dominating the digital distribution market like they've nearly taken over the brick-and-mortar specialty games market. They've already pretty well screwed over the PC market with regard to what they've done with their physical stores; why would I want to give them a chance to do it again with digital ones?
I know they're a long way from perfect, but I'll stick with the digital store that's run by the company who actually make games.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
OMG, this guy is hilarious. He needs to do standup with this.
This guy is seriously missing one big glaring detail. While GameStop is going digital(or wanting to), and up to now is a successful store brand, it's biggest emphasis is on Console Games. Their best bet is to stay in that bracket, as they even try to compete with Steam with so little expertise or regard for PC Games(seriously, there is just one shelf for PC Games in my nearest store), they will fall flat on their face and that will kill them.
Of course, if they try to go digital on just console games, they will have Microsoft and Sony on their ass faster than one can say 'Texas Lawsuit Two-Step.'
Which will be hilarious.
I'd like to hear more from this guy. Will be better than any sitcom out right now.
OMG, this guy is hilarious. He needs to do standup with this.
This guy is seriously missing one big glaring detail. While GameStop is going digital(or wanting to), and up to now is a successful store brand, it's biggest emphasis is on Console Games. Their best bet is to stay in that bracket, as they even try to compete with Steam with so little expertise or regard for PC Games(seriously, there is just one shelf for PC Games in my nearest store), they will fall flat on their face and that will kill them.
Of course, if they try to go digital on just console games, they will have Microsoft and Sony on their ass faster than one can say 'Texas Lawsuit Two-Step.'
Which will be hilarious.
I'd like to hear more from this guy. Will be better than any sitcom out right now.
Well, he ain't the boss anymore, and I think this article is pretty much telling us why.Twilight_guy said:
Steam sales can get to be even more ridiculous than 50%. It really is no wonder why publishers love selling through Steam. I patiently am waiting for the next Epic clearing house so I can finally get Bulletstorm.
That, my friend, is why Steam should stay with Valve. Separate the two, and Steam will die faster than you could say Hop. It is only those with no imagination and zero entrepeneur ability that want Steam to be divided away.Callate said:
Gamestop will never make a dent in Steam's marketing, especially not with their mafia-like treatment of their employees.
While I think overall people will just keep using the service they're using due to the level of investment in their library with that service, there are a couple of other I'd like to make:
- Totalitarian DRM? Steam? Come on. Now that features like offline mode actually work, it's not really any more intrusive than requiring a disc. Sure there's the initial online activation, but how many games don't require that these days? One activation for each install, with no other restrictions, which I find a lot more practical than having to swap disks.
- A lot of games on steam are overpriced in aus, however, this is generally restricted to the AAA publishers, with the exception of ubisoft for some reason, and more recently Zenimax, who pricing wise, are the most utter bastards since blizzard activision. This doesn't apply to indie or valve games.
And then there's the only real issue I have, which is with this comment:
"The technology difference between Impulse and Steam is such that any objective developer who looked at the two would overwhelmingly... let's just say the gulf is significant enough that it's not really a 'depends on your point of view' thing,"
My reaction to which being "Oh f*ck off".
Well, I suppose it is true, and it was wise of him to wait until after the sale was finalised to admit how screwed gamestop is.
The features advertised by impulse features are are a subset of those provided by steam, and are only accessible to a smaller set of developers.
Impulse - https://developer.impulsedriven.com/#summary
Steamworks - http://steampowered.com/steamworks/index.php
- Totalitarian DRM? Steam? Come on. Now that features like offline mode actually work, it's not really any more intrusive than requiring a disc. Sure there's the initial online activation, but how many games don't require that these days? One activation for each install, with no other restrictions, which I find a lot more practical than having to swap disks.
- A lot of games on steam are overpriced in aus, however, this is generally restricted to the AAA publishers, with the exception of ubisoft for some reason, and more recently Zenimax, who pricing wise, are the most utter bastards since blizzard activision. This doesn't apply to indie or valve games.
And then there's the only real issue I have, which is with this comment:
"The technology difference between Impulse and Steam is such that any objective developer who looked at the two would overwhelmingly... let's just say the gulf is significant enough that it's not really a 'depends on your point of view' thing,"
My reaction to which being "Oh f*ck off".
Well, I suppose it is true, and it was wise of him to wait until after the sale was finalised to admit how screwed gamestop is.
The features advertised by impulse features are are a subset of those provided by steam, and are only accessible to a smaller set of developers.
Impulse - https://developer.impulsedriven.com/#summary
Steamworks - http://steampowered.com/steamworks/index.php
That's not bias. It's recognizing a superior product.jawakiller said:
The problem is, Impulse may be great for designers, but it's the consumers that the guy should be focused on. You can have the best platform in the world, but if no one is using it, you're just making a lot of noise.
I was so sad when I heard Gamestop bought Impulse. Don't get me wrong, I hope Stardock a good deal on it. But really and honestly, now I have no reason to buy from Impulse. In the past I was just doing it out of support for Stardock (my all time fav developer).
I hate gamestop and I never shop there. I can't see any reason to go anywhere but Steam now.
I hate gamestop and I never shop there. I can't see any reason to go anywhere but Steam now.
It is a sad state of affairs and one that will hopefully, one day, sort itself out.draythefingerless said:
I'm currently working on that, actually.markcocjin said:
