Former Impulse Boss Predicts GameStop Will Beat Steam

joshthor

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PC gamers hate gamestop. pc gamers love valve. pc gamers have steam games. pc gamers have steam. valve games > stardock games. impulse will continue hiding in the background.
 

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That was that biggest pile of bullshit I've heard in months. Gamestop is going to kill Impulse by jacking the prices up. The only reason I have 4 games from Impulse is because they were dirt cheap. No more great sales, no more purchases.

Also, Steam is by far the better platform, setup-wise. Impulse seems like it was made by 3 kids in a beginning programming class.
 

Saviordd1

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HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sorry

Honestly this guy went to stupid school, either that or is currently ODing on LSD
 

V8 Ninja

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Technically what Brad Wardell explained isn't a bad business model (if one is trying to monopolize the industry), but competing against Steam/Valve is like competing against a thousand bulls. Unless you're Duke Nukem, Serious Sam, or a Spanish bullfighter that has a gun, you're going to loose.
 

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draythefingerless said:
Dys said:
MetallicaRulez0 said:
Steam is easier and cheaper, and with GameStop's pricing history I see absolutely no way they could beat Steam. GameStop price gouges everything in their stores, while Steam underprices everything. I just can't see GameStop being willing to drop prices enough to even compete with Steam, much less overtake them.
That's region Dependant, where I'm from both are absurdly expensive (presumably due to the publishers, as valve developed games are priced the same as they are overseas). Small retailers (admittedly not gamestop) import their own stock and charge rrp for PC games ($50us~$49au), where steam typically charges $80-$90 for a digital copy of the same game (and for the extra charge you get slapped with the extra layer of DRM).
Gonna have to call bullshit on you on that. Steams average price is not 80-90 dollars. Ive browsed for hours their catalogue. While it does not come down as OVERLY cheaper than other places, it DEFINITLY does not come over as overly pricier. The average price for their games is 50 dollars, wich is the average price for games that come out anywhere. And im speaking WITHOUT counting the unsurmountable number of sales, wich you will NEVER see in any store out here, except maybe D2D, but D2D just says FUCK YOU to anyone who is non american. i hate them for their poor deliverance of international service.
Apparently I was inescapably clear enough before, the prices change depending on your region. I am, right now, looking at an advertisement[footnote]Despite them bothering to change the prices for region, they don't estimate the currency conversion. All prices are in USD[/footnote] for 'homefront' and can confirm they are selling it for $80. Dragon age is $70, shift 2 unleashed is $80, crysis 2 is $70, total war shogun is $90 as is call of duty black ops. An 'expensive' retail store in Melbourne (such as JB hifi) will sell the boxed versions of the games for about the same price, a specialty/independent store will usually sell them for between $50 and $60au (in Australia the chain retail stores like to completely ignore the RRP of the games). I'm yet to see a new, third party (ie not developed by valve) game advertised on steam that I cannot get at least $10 cheaper from a store or online.
Also, what intrusive DRM? :/ Pardon the question, i really have no idea what...intrusive DRM youre talkin about.
Seriously? Try launching a game linked to steamworks without having steam open. Try force a restart of your computer when steam is not runnning, restart without internet and try to launch a game. If the client is unable to verify you have the rights to launch a steamlocked game (despite it being installed on the computer) it will not allow you to launch it. That's exactly what DRM is.

And, unfortunately, steam doesn't store any credentials on the computer. So, just say I log into steam on my desktop, while my laptop is still running, my laptop will get logged out of steam. If I forget to log back in before I go to my friends house (who has no internet) for some gaming, I will not be able to launch any steam game.

Some people like using steam, and it isn't wrong to like its features, but it is most certainly a DRM system and it is far more invasive than the traditional secuROM shit people are always bitching about.
The only thing i have to do is i have to have the platform turned on to play a game. And while a few years ago, it was a HUGE hassle, Steam is fairly smooth and easy now. OH, and i did have games i took from steam that COULD run without it. I popped Dragon Age 2 on the other day, with Steam Uninstalled, and it ran fine. I know its another layer of software between you an your game, but i doubt its the evil people tell it to be. Somethings have to be done in computing to make sure evth is safe.
As far as I'm aware, dragon age isn't locked to the steamworks DRM. It uses the steam platform, but not the DRM. Not all games available on steam require steam to run (and I'm obviously a lot less critical of those that don't require it). You cannot do the same thing with, say, left 4 dead or civilization 5.

The big thing that shits me about steam is not that it's a DRM, it's that it occasionally kicks itself in the teeth and won't work without an INTERNET connection (which I regularly lack-I game on my laptop a lot). I also hate the incremental install patch system, particularly because the "do not update this game" option is periodically reset back to the default false option when the steam client updates.

Look, steam isn't by any stretch the worst system, but impulse just does some basic things better[footnote]It downloads updates incrementally but does not install them until they entire download is complete, it does not need to be running to run a game attached to it, there are no pop up ads when you close games etc.[/footnote]
 

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The real thing I can see about this being true is that they focus on consoles. And Steam does not. The console market is larger. But Steam has cemented itself in the PC community nicely. Doubt it will happen.
 

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I like steam, I've got almost 90 games on steam cause it's just the easiest (and maybe only) legitimate way to get games in my country. (other than importing which comes with a hefty tax)
When a game is sold for $2.50 and the retail shops only sells bootlegged copies for $5.00 i know where i'm going to get my games (unless you've got connections, in which case you could get like 5 games for $3.00, but i still prefer steam)
 

Alpha Maeko

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You know distributors are desperate when they start claiming how they compare to steam.
 

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I have to admit that I prefer Steam for my PC games. Unless there isn't a demo offered for a specific game I'm looking for. I'm not about to risk $40 on a game if I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy it but I can't return and get my money back if I don't. When it comes to consoles, which I happen to play most of my games on, I ALWAYS go to my local EB Games/Gamestop. The games are fairly priced, the selection of games is pleasing and the employees are friendly and helpful. At least, that's the case with the specific store I go to.

Also, I admit I'm wary of getting my games through digital distribution in general. If something happens to my account, I won't be able to get those back unless the people who run customer service can get it back for me. Therefor, I prefer having my games on a disk as opposed to their existence being tied to an account.

I do love the Christmas deals on Steam though.
 

redisforever

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HAHAHAHAHAHAH-*choke on drink, die*

But seriously, is he serious? Beat Steam? With what? Over-expensive used games?
 

Waaghpowa

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shewolf51 said:
Also, I admit I'm wary of getting my games through digital distribution in general. If something happens to my account, I won't be able to get those back unless the people who run customer service can get it back for me. Therefor, I prefer having my games on a disk as opposed to their existence being tied to an account.
Just thought I'd mention that steam has a security system in place where your CPU is linked to your account to prevent anyone from accessing it without authorization.
 

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I see this all the time. Parents think their children are superior to other children all the time, even if they are drugged out crackheads. As soon as they successfully do something that pretty much everyone can do, they are the best. I think that if Impulse wasn't any real competition to Steam before, it's nearly impossible for it to be now.

I remember when Circuit City shut down it's stores and went chiefly online, only for them to not sell anything any cheaper.... and the future refused to change... for them anyway.