You'd think by now someone would've accepted an invite to FOX News and taken a marker and a large square of paper with them, neatly folded in their pocket. Then just write a one line basic rebuttal (really, that's all whats needed), hold it up, and remain silent. Completely silent.
Fox News Attacks NEA for Classifying Games as Art
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Wow, I am frustrated by Fox News but absolutely APPALLED by the escapist community's response.
First of all, I'm not sure what the rest of you were watching but this is what I saw:
The host opens up with the headline grabbing "should Call of Duty get taxpayer funding" bs
The host then says to Brian "When you (meaning non-gamers) think of video games you do think of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto and the like..." (Which is absolutely true, whether the escapist thinks so or not)
Brian Ambrozy gets the first word, and he says right away that those types of games are not up for funding, that only independent and artistic developers qualify.
The show continues playing the COD:BO clips because those were ALREADY-ASSEMBLED and easily accessible game clips which saved Fox some time. (And don't anyone even dare pretend that every other news agency in the world doesn't cut those kind of corners when possible)
The radio asshole (who is NOT! the Fox News host nor a Fox employee) throws out an insult that misses the point. If the radio guy had any valid point, it is the timing of this move to add game funding through the NEA.
Brian kind of misses the point of whether GOVERNMENT-BACKED games should exist when he points out how strong the capitalist game industry is.
The radio asshole than follows up with some screaming.
And the segment ends
This segment was clearly assembled by people who aren't video-game player, which I would expect given the network's audience.
They gave Brian Ambrozy an opportunity to defend his industry, and he did so very well.
The only people who are going to be convinced this is some kind of outrageous plot for game propaganda are the minority of Fox watchers who believe that kind of thing already.
No harm was done, Brian stood up for the game industry, and the radio host made himself look like an asshole.
The real people I'm disgusted with are the supposedly enlightened escapist community members who see no problem with wanting physical violence against Fox viewers or the network itself. Even if you're joking. That mindset is really pointless, and if this very comment board were shown to older, non-gaming, conservative Fox viewers or employees, it would only serve to reenforce the idea that video game players are violent, despicable, arrogant little pieces of shit.
First of all, I'm not sure what the rest of you were watching but this is what I saw:
The host opens up with the headline grabbing "should Call of Duty get taxpayer funding" bs
The host then says to Brian "When you (meaning non-gamers) think of video games you do think of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto and the like..." (Which is absolutely true, whether the escapist thinks so or not)
Brian Ambrozy gets the first word, and he says right away that those types of games are not up for funding, that only independent and artistic developers qualify.
The show continues playing the COD:BO clips because those were ALREADY-ASSEMBLED and easily accessible game clips which saved Fox some time. (And don't anyone even dare pretend that every other news agency in the world doesn't cut those kind of corners when possible)
The radio asshole (who is NOT! the Fox News host nor a Fox employee) throws out an insult that misses the point. If the radio guy had any valid point, it is the timing of this move to add game funding through the NEA.
Brian kind of misses the point of whether GOVERNMENT-BACKED games should exist when he points out how strong the capitalist game industry is.
The radio asshole than follows up with some screaming.
And the segment ends
This segment was clearly assembled by people who aren't video-game player, which I would expect given the network's audience.
They gave Brian Ambrozy an opportunity to defend his industry, and he did so very well.
The only people who are going to be convinced this is some kind of outrageous plot for game propaganda are the minority of Fox watchers who believe that kind of thing already.
No harm was done, Brian stood up for the game industry, and the radio host made himself look like an asshole.
The real people I'm disgusted with are the supposedly enlightened escapist community members who see no problem with wanting physical violence against Fox viewers or the network itself. Even if you're joking. That mindset is really pointless, and if this very comment board were shown to older, non-gaming, conservative Fox viewers or employees, it would only serve to reenforce the idea that video game players are violent, despicable, arrogant little pieces of shit.
FOX News is just jealous of the NEA and always have been. You'd think their millions in profits and unmatched fan-base might go a little way toward placating their ego, but it never does. They've discovered that instilling fear and anger is the best way to keep the masses hypnotized while simultaneously aware that suggestible people can be persuaded by anyone once they're in that seething trance and thus Ailes & Co. seek to destroy all opposition. Are Sesame Street and Car Talk bloating the federal deficit? No, they're merely the biggest threat to the narrative purported by the cunning FOX. And now, of course, since the average viewership of the Unnews is roughly 50 years young, their target demographic has always been suspect of video games and it is all too easy to mentally conflate those long-held trepidations with the always-assumed incompetence and evil that is the federal government. It's like the peanut butter and chocolate of enforced ignorance.
I'll get the shrink ray.Imp Emissary said::[ Wait! They attacked the Games industry. To hell with the RPG!arc1991 said:Tehehehe i'm glad the Majority of this thread have a sense of humour.Imp Emissary said:arc1991 said:Oh...a joke...yes, obviously.
*Puts down RPG*
Now pick up that RPG, were on a mission >.>
>_< *Picks up BFG*
Of course CoD doesn't need taxpayer funding. It does just fine on it's own in the marketplace. The purpose of the NEA is to give taxpayer money to artists and videogames that nobody wants, much less would voluntarily fund with their own money. Considering the kind of profane filth/art that the NEA does support, it is reasonable to imagine that the kind of videogames they would produce would be like the art they finance, e.g., the game mechanic of putting a Crucifix in a jar of urine.
On the plus side, the developers of Duke Nukem Forever can declare their game as "art" and get taxpayer money to fund their operation. That way, they don't have to worry about making a profit in the marketplace. They'll have piles of taxpayer cash to lean on.
Another advantage to giving failed videogamers taxpayer money is it takes them off the unemployment rolls. It's still welfare state spending, but Obama can claim he has reduced unemployment by reclassifying a large segment of unemployed as artists and transferred them from Dept of Labor to the NEA.
Maybe, instead of taking money from taxpayers who worked hard for that money, instead of making crappy videogames that nobody but a government bureaucrat would spend money on, they could watch the "Extra Credits" video series. If they watch the "Graphics vs. Aesthetics" episode, they could make art that people would actually want to buy in the marketplace.
On the plus side, the developers of Duke Nukem Forever can declare their game as "art" and get taxpayer money to fund their operation. That way, they don't have to worry about making a profit in the marketplace. They'll have piles of taxpayer cash to lean on.
Another advantage to giving failed videogamers taxpayer money is it takes them off the unemployment rolls. It's still welfare state spending, but Obama can claim he has reduced unemployment by reclassifying a large segment of unemployed as artists and transferred them from Dept of Labor to the NEA.
Maybe, instead of taking money from taxpayers who worked hard for that money, instead of making crappy videogames that nobody but a government bureaucrat would spend money on, they could watch the "Extra Credits" video series. If they watch the "Graphics vs. Aesthetics" episode, they could make art that people would actually want to buy in the marketplace.
Everyone who has a knee-jerk reaction against Fox News and is vehemently pro-NEA, please prove me wrong.
Please name a videogame that utterly failed in the marketplace, i.e., lost the developer lots of money, yet is so astounding in its artistry and aesthetic, that it should have received taxpayer money from the NEA?
Please name a videogame that utterly failed in the marketplace, i.e., lost the developer lots of money, yet is so astounding in its artistry and aesthetic, that it should have received taxpayer money from the NEA?
What can you expect of Fox News? They have been making stuff up for so long that it has become their MO. Take a story rooted in fact, Cut 90% of the facts out and replace them with opinions claiming to be fact, get loud mouth to yell over everyone who might have a differing opinion, produce story call it "news". There is your Fox Opinion Channel formula.
"This line is either ignorantly or intentionally manipulative, which in either case is extremely disappointing coming from one of the nation's most popular news outlets."
I'm surprised there are still people left who has the ability to be disappointed by Fox. Seriously, this kind of stuff has come to be expected. Fox's only reason to exist is to make money of convincing old, fanatic Christians that their world review is right and everything new and/or foreign is the work of the devil.
I'm surprised there are still people left who has the ability to be disappointed by Fox. Seriously, this kind of stuff has come to be expected. Fox's only reason to exist is to make money of convincing old, fanatic Christians that their world review is right and everything new and/or foreign is the work of the devil.
It's Fox news that always seem to pull these ignorant assholes on their show and always let the ignorant side of the debate shout their view above everyone elses. I swear I've seen this happen every time without fail. Not to mention the title "should CoD get funding" is a load of crap used to make people jump to incorrect assumptions.Ace IV said:
I'm pretty certain it's in Fox's interest to spread bullshit.
Hey, I'm new, this is my first post and it will probably be my only post, and this may sound silly to you guys, but hear me out.
I am sick and tired of FOX making up bullshit and selling it to millions of people. And we don't have a powerful enough voice to talk for us. So, I'm gonna put this in short: Go here http://forums.thedailyshow.com/?page=ForumView&forum_id=243, as I'm trying to get Jon Stewart to give a hand to the underepresented gaming community. I know this seems small, but sign up there, and post something in that topic, so that way, if it gets enough supporters, Stewart might give us a hand here.
I am sick and tired of FOX making up bullshit and selling it to millions of people. And we don't have a powerful enough voice to talk for us. So, I'm gonna put this in short: Go here http://forums.thedailyshow.com/?page=ForumView&forum_id=243, as I'm trying to get Jon Stewart to give a hand to the underepresented gaming community. I know this seems small, but sign up there, and post something in that topic, so that way, if it gets enough supporters, Stewart might give us a hand here.
MSNBC doesn't do the same thing against conservatives either?
I'm just pissed this country doesn't have civil debates with each other. It's just one talking head screaming at another talking head on both MSNBC and FOX.
Calm, cool and collected doesn't get viewership but screaming does. I hate it. I don't live in a country where we rationally discuss and debate ideas. One side is ALWAYS wrong and the other is ALWAYS right. It doesn't get anything accomplished and we keep digging ourselves into a hole.
I'm just pissed this country doesn't have civil debates with each other. It's just one talking head screaming at another talking head on both MSNBC and FOX.
Calm, cool and collected doesn't get viewership but screaming does. I hate it. I don't live in a country where we rationally discuss and debate ideas. One side is ALWAYS wrong and the other is ALWAYS right. It doesn't get anything accomplished and we keep digging ourselves into a hole.