Fox News Attacks NEA for Classifying Games as Art

KeyMaster45

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ZeroMachine said:
Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
They set up the debate so the guy opposing video games would ignore every point the other guy made. Fox is just as much at fault for this as that asshole radio guy.
They set up the debate so people could hear a different point of view. The dude from FNC never took a side, as good reporters don't. Stop blaming Fox for reporting the news in an honest way
Did you ever listen to how they introduced the segment? They introduced it by twisting it to sound bad already: "Should the videogame Call of Duty get federal funding?"

There's an obvious bias there, and Fox News is KNOWN for shit like this. I don't get why you're defending them.

The guy is either trolling or a diehard Fox News fan; either way arguing with him will only have you angry in the end. Best advice is too just walk away and save yourself some frustration.

OT: I'm going to have to say I honestly did not expect this; if anything I thought games getting federally recognized as art would shut them up at least until Duke Nukem Forever hit shelves.
 

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Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
Providing information that is completely incorrect at the opening of the debate isn't a problem? Sure, the Fox correspondent didn't offer much to the conversation and stayed at a relatively neutral standpoint. That's great, I have no problem with that. It's when they make outrageous comments like "Should Call of Duty get federal funding?" at the beginning of segments that causes the problem.

I've taken News courses in my education and verifying information is probably the most important point when you are providing news. As Tom Goldman, a news reporter himself, pointed out, federal funding would not go to Call of Duty in any circumstance. That practically invalidates the entire segment and is an insult to the media outlets that take their jobs seriously. That is a poor job on Fox's part because they did not research their subject, yet they appear as if they know what they are talking about. That's essentially basic internet troll tactics. Making headlines that simply stir people up but have no real foundation in the subject are not good. There are plenty of people outside of the video game fan base that are going to be pissed off that video games are a problem and the government is funding them even if they know nothing of the subject.

Once again, the problem is how Fox portrays it. It's very obvious who won that argument in the eyes of the Fox viewers, the guy arguing against video game as art. That's fine. I will even say he has some decent points, but they are going to completely ignore what the tech guy said because of the way Fox presented it.
 

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I love how its titles "fair and balanced debate." I don't think fox understands those two words
That is the exact point in the video in which I stops watching.
 

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LiquidGrape said:
Dear Fox News. I think I speak for all people of rational thinking and common sense when I say:

I have never, ever agreed with a post as much as I do right now.

Seriously, there should be a law against such idiotic... *rants*
 

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LOL I love how he said "joining us now for a fair and balanced debate..." Fox News has a responsibility as a news outlet, maybe not through law but ethics, to present an objective look at news. It disgusts me.
 

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How typical.

Barack HUSSEIN Obama rolls out another liberal tax, cap, spend, rotate 90° and tax again plan to burden HONEST, HARDWORKING AMERICANS with yet more government stem cells and bureaucracy.

But then, using some of that money EXTORTED from rosy-cheeked, middle class of a distinctly Norman Rockwell persuasion to help finance the Most Holy and Universal Church of Private Enterprise, blessings be, might just be the thing to help revitalize our presently imperiled economy.

The only remaining questions would then be:
1. Why exactly does Fox News hate honest hardworking Americans with at least two cars?
2. Does FNC's relentless JIHAD in the name of strangling American enterprise stem from their fanatic adherence to the Gay Agenda, or is it merely a byproduct of them huffing Islam after class?
3. On a scale of 1- 10, how much does Fox hate the troops?
 

AlexLoxate

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This kind of bulls**t should just be ignored. Fox has pulled stuff like this before and whoever supports it is a total prick.
 

SaintWaldo

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These video games are NOT producers of derivatives nor captains of industry. The only entities that deserve U.S. handouts are the ones who can be trusted to KEEP IT. These gamers have proven that they will NOT acquire trophy wives and motor-yachts with these handouts, so of course FOX will never support them at the public trough.

Reality has asserted itself merely as expected.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
He adds that organizations like the NEA are "stretching the limits of wastefulness," becoming a "perversion" of what they were originally intended to be, all in regards to the changed criteria.
That has to be a joke.
 

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I understand this, I understand why Fox News is doing this. Art in itself is controversial. People will always complain about art. Fox News is confirming that video games are art by doing this.
 

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What a douchebag.
 

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JoshGod said:
Tom Goldman said:
He adds that organizations like the NEA are "stretching the limits of wastefulness," becoming a "perversion" of what they were originally intended to be, all in regards to the changed criteria.
That has to be a joke.
Why would that be a joke? Why should the government be paying for the arts at all? Why can't these not for profit organizations that support and further the arts get their money from donations or private funding rather than the pockets of taxpayers? Why should every American taxpayer be forced to support an organization like the NEA? If people want to support these groups then they obviously should be allowed. However, people shouldn't be forced to with no say in the matter.
 

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arc1991 said:
Anyone fancy helping me blow up the Fox News building?

*Grabs Shotgun and C4 charges*
While I get the humor behind that, I can't help but think that saying stuff like that doesn't really help our case...

OT: Surprise, surprise, Fox News' "fair and balanced" reporting is anything but. How this is news, I have no idea.
 

Chrono212

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Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't the United States have some sort of media regulatory body like the Office of Communications (OfCom) that enforces media standards?
Like making sure that facts in this 'discussion' had some truth in them?
 

Tom Goldman

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Ace IV said:
Tom Goldman said:
You must have missed the part where Fox asked if Call of Duty should get federal funding, completely ignoring the facts of the situation. That's not honest reporting, it's utterly misleading.
At the 0:58 mark in the video, the video games blogger corrected the facts. After that, no one mentioned the words "Call of Duty". I agree that FNC should have done a little more to research what they were talking about, but at least they didn't keep banging on a point that was already called out as BS
It's good that Fox News didn't keep hammering that point, sure, but unfortunately, in my view, the entire debate was set up under false pretenses. There's no chance of Call of Duty getting federal funding, yet that's what this debate was about... thanks to Fox News. Fox News set up a false debate either due to ignorance or as a tactic to manipulate the public. If this isn't apparent to anyone else that understands the facts surrounding the situation, I'm not sure what to say. Fox should have debated whether or not games can be art, not whether or not Call of Duty should get federal funding. I have no loyalties to any political or media faction, but I don't appreciate when games are improperly used to generate rhetoric.