Fox News Attacks NEA for Classifying Games as Art

The Gray Train

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i wasn't sure about the stipulations for receiving federal funding, but i'm glad they were cleared up. the way i see it, games aren't purely art. they are a unique medium in that they combine things generally considered art, like storytelling, visuals and cut scenes, with, well, a game. games in general have never been considered art. it's kind of funny to think about it, really, that video games can trace their heritage from literature, visual art, film, and games ranging from battleship to tag.
 

TheStupidguy12

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I thought the media was supposed to be unbiased, or is that just in other countries? I can't tell from the staggering stupidity coming off the other guy in the discussion.
 

MetalGenocide

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The stupid.....it hurts......

I'll gain a world of respect for whichever group permanently closes down, that "media diarrhea outlet".
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
Dear other countries in the world, if you get made and decide to attack and invade the United States, please strike Fox News HQ first, then I promise we will try to work out a compromise afterwards...
all I ask is that you reduce the time it takes for your hit shows to reach us and to stop making almost every British person in DC comics cockney.
 

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Ace IV said:
Kahunaburger said:
A debate involves two or more participants using reasoned argumentation to make a case. In this case, only one participant came to have a debate.
Then blame the guy that Fox News got. And really you should be thankful that Fox got such an idiot to present the anti-video games side, because it makes our side look better by default.
But the problem is the poeple who watch this will believe the idiot, it won't help us at all.
 

ZeroMachine

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Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Yup.

Done with you.
Show me where I'm wrong. Show me where the words "Call of Duty" were mentioned after he corrected them.

I guess I should be thankful people think I'm a troll, it means I don't have to talk with them anymore, but really, if you really knew what a troll meant, you would never call anyone a troll in the first place.
Oh, please.

They never retracted their comment. Not once.

They never stopped the other guy from making said comments.

Not only that, but you either ignore or are completely ignorant to the concept of subtext.

Fox News deliberately set up this debate between a loud, outspoken man that agreed with them and a soft spoken, not well known, awkward, and not-pleasing-on-the-eyes nerd stereotype. Why? So people would pay less attention to him. They do it all the time.

Oh, and clarify what that last statement meant, because if you could never call anyone a troll, then the term wouldn't exist.
 

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This line is either ignorantly or intentionally manipulative, which in either case is extremely disappointing coming from one of the nation's most popular news outlets.
What? Fox News manipulated a story to spread their uninformed, paranoid opinions? No... they're "fair and balanced"!

Tom Goldman is either naive or incredibly optimistic. I wish I had that sort of faith in humanity.
 

TheStupidguy12

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Also, they were the ones who picked the debaters which created bias itself. They got a quiet, polite guy going for video games who knew what he was talking about and then a shouting guy who interrupts frequently against him who had no clue what the actual facts were. The intro already set things against video games.
 

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nekoali said:
Oh no, it's not accidental or due to a lack of knowledge that Fox does these things. They are fully aware of the facts and often disregard them to use shock and scare tactics to stir up controversy where there is none and push their own political agenda. All of this is purely intentional and meant to do exactly what it is doing. Someone at Fox hates video games with a passion. Among the many other things people at Fox hate. If they can combine multiple incorrect statements to spread hatred against several of their targets in a short interview segment... it's a win in their books.
Quoted for truth. I don't think you can have an organization as large as FOX and still think that they are spouting ignorant misinformation because they don't know better. They totally know. They know and whoever is in charge of bias has his hate on for video games. I'll give them credit though, props to however wrote this little bit spin. It takes skill to come up with inflammatory bullshit this offensive, a real talent for insult and reducing everyone to a common denominator. Shame they don't use their powers for something useful. Like, you know, reporting the news.
 

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MasochisticMuse said:
This line is either ignorantly or intentionally manipulative, which in either case is extremely disappointing coming from one of the nation's most popular news outlets.
What? Fox News manipulated a story to spread their uninformed, paranoid opinions? No... they're "fair and balanced"!

Tom Goldman is either naive or incredibly optimistic. I wish I had that sort of faith in humanity.
I don't think he was expecting them to be honest... just hoping.
 

Xanthious

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cursedseishi said:
Xanth I do get what you're saying, but with how much the US government spends on military alone, you could probably fun at least 10 NEAs substantially. The costs for the last few wars are ungodly high, and part of it is just overspending. We pay the most in the world, if I remember correctly, on our military, and an absurdly higher amount than anyone else at that. We can afford to cut military funding.
Oh, and big corporations too. Why should we give Mr. Trump a massive tax break, he doesn't need it.
Military funding should be cut and cut in a big way. The U.S should not be the world's police force. Furthermore, getting involved in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and the middle east in general is a losing proposition all around and is one of the biggest reasons for our current spending problem.

However, as far as taxing the rich goes I just don't think that is the way. As it is now the top 5% of wage earners pay over 59% of the taxes. Half of all households in the US pay nothing at all in taxes and a large percentage of them actually make money when tax time comes around. I am a firm believer that everyone should contribute. Just because "the rich" have more money doesn't give the government the right to take larger and larger amounts to cover for their (the government's) wasteful spending. Why should "the rich" be made to pay more of their money when the majority of all citizens pay nothing at all or profit from their taxes?

Right now the problem with the U.S lies in what we are putting out not what we are bringing in. Taxes being collected are at an all time high. We are bringing in more money now than we ever have. If the government takes more money they will just spend more money and the problem will remain unsolved. Wasteful spending is the issue. Republican and Democrats alike are equally guilty in my opinion. There needs to be cuts made across the board and not just on one area like social programs or military spending.
 

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wow Fox News hating games what a shock!
I skimmed it and already could tell Fox never read past the title.
Only games that would help the public (like PSA games or games that could train people in what to do in a disaster) get funding not games that are only for entertainment purposes (like COD) besides people that make games for entertainment purposes don,t need funding.
 

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Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Ace IV said:
Fox didn't do anything wrong, they had a debate. Your ire should be directed at the dude who was arguing against video games as art, not FNC itself.
They set up the debate so the guy opposing video games would ignore every point the other guy made. Fox is just as much at fault for this as that asshole radio guy.
They set up the debate so people could hear a different point of view. The dude from FNC never took a side, as good reporters don't. Stop blaming Fox for reporting the news in an honest way
Fox news reporting in an honest way? Can I live in your world?
 

ZeroMachine

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Ace IV said:
ZeroMachine said:
Oh, and clarify what that last statement meant, because if you could never call anyone a troll, then the term wouldn't exist.
Sure thing, mate.

A troll is someone who acts up and says stupid shit for attention. Sort of like a Devil's Advocate, except a Devil's Advocate makes nonsense arguments for the betterment of human knowledge, while a troll does it because he loves getting people riled up. If you call someone a troll, and continue arguing with them, then you're basically saying you're troll bait. If you really believe someone to be a troll, then don't respond to them.

Are we all cleared up? I look forward to your response :)

That was a joke
No response to the rest of my post? You're only proving my point.

EDIT: And say what you want about the whole troll conversation. I don't give a fuck. If you're not a troll, like you claim, it's irrelevant. If you are and you keep ignoring the points that I made, I now know that you're a waste of time.