And you just know the next movie will have april's parents using lots of unfunny innuendo and some guy in a G string because penis jokes.
Friday Box Office: Ninja Turtles Defeat Marvel's Guardians
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I suppose this was a case of brand recognition. Take my third world country, everybody knows the ninja turtles. Guardians of what now, though? Ain't nobody heard of them.
Really guys? Do we need the thing that we like to be more popular than the thing we don't like to feel secure about our opinions?
Queen Michael said:
If that's true, roughly half went to see it again.
Super Cyborg said:
The trick is never to let the facts dictate the narrative. ASM2 did bad because it plummeted 53%. GotG did well because it managed to only drop 55%.youji itami said:
If you really want something to be a failure, as the Escapist community wants the Amazing Franchise to be, you will find any way possible to make it so. I suspect that even if TMNT drops only, say, 10% next week (And I doubt it will only drop that much, it's an example), people will be heralding the failure of Michael Bay and shitty reboots.
I would hope that any critic worth a damn would understand the difference between a good movie and a successful one. Or, at the very least, that the two aren't always the same.Uriel_Hayabusa said:
I'd also expect basic pattern recognition would allow them to figure out that this was going to be money.
Yes. I'm not sure you've noticed, but this kind of insecurity is rampant in the world.erttheking said:
And there will be some sort of Shredder testicle joke. Probably using the armour.Racecarlock said:
Box office sales, however, are what determines success. Success, along with sequels and other such things. Michael Bay can get totally panned by critics, but he will be crying himself to sleep on a pile of money.ShadowGandalf01 said:
Bah Gawd, King, I don't think that strawman is getting back up! It's over! It's all over!ultreos2 said:
Seriously, though, is anyone championing anything, anything at all, that this point would counter? People are touting freaking Gaurdians of the Galaxy over this. Guardians is not a deep look at the human condition, or an indie art film. It's a damn entertainment film people find entertaining and watch for the purposes of entertainment. It stars Vin Deisel and Dave Batista (among others) and is the tale of a guy obsessed with the 80s, a green chick, and a buddy duo of talking raccoon and tree.
I should hope so, as I would hope any professional writer would write better than that. Then again, I've read some of Twilight.
But again, they're not championing some obscure indie flick. They're comparing it to Guardians of the Galaxy. Talking raccoon. "Hooked on a Feeling." Tree that says its own name. Green space babes.
As far as I can tell, nobody is demanding that TMNT be high cinema that enhances our perspective on the human condition.
I felt a great disturbance in the internet as if a thousand nerds all cried out at once and... continued whining.
The trick is indeed not to let facts dictate the narrative. Facts such asZachary Amaranth said:
1) Guardians opening higher so a slightly higher drop would still leave it with a better second weekend
2) Guardians costing less to produce so needing less to be a success (but so far getting more)
3) Guardians being a C to D list franchise as opposed to the A-list Spider man franchise
or, and I think this one is the kicker.
4) ASM2 dropping -61.2% percent not 53% on its second weekend. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=2014openers.htm
Now clearly dislike of ASM2 causes some people to overstate it's "failure", but while it clearly wasn't a failure in absolute terms (it made money) it's perfectly possible to argue it's a failure or at least a disappointment in relative terms. It's the lowest grossing Spider-Man movie so far without even correcting for inflation, and it's being equaled or surpassed by far less well known franchises. I would in fact argue that, but then, I do dislike it
Basically, the only bit that wasn't rationalising to construct a narrative. Good catch on that, but everything else is a case of the exact thing I was talking about.CerberusSpawn said:
Man, if the Jedi can feel that, no wonder they're all extinct.canadamus_prime said:
Or in a galaxy far, far away.
You think Guardians making more money (so far) on a smaller budget doesn't make it a bigger succes? I'd say I'm not the one rationalizing in service of a narrative here.Zachary Amaranth said:
Nah nerd whining is very hard to miss, you don't need to be a Jedi to feel that.Zachary Amaranth said:
If there was only some way to slip a airborne sterilization agent into the Ninja Turtles showings....
Meh, I've paid for the movie I wanted to see and kept my wallet shut for the movie I didn't, in the end that's all I can really do so no real use making a fuss about the latter movie's success. Although the numbers for GOTG does make me happy that a sequel is well on it's way. (yes I know it was planned well beforehand, but chances are those plans would've been dropped if the movie bombed)