Funny events in anti-woke world
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Something something false flag, something something Antifa thugs, something something arrest the victim.
I have no idea, but I suspect it's not going to end well for Labour.
Woke, He's being smeared as an Anti-Semite for supporting some of those kicked fro Labour who were also kicked under claims they were Anti-Semites (some were admittedly but others it was more bad PR moves on their part which happened to be linked to Anti-Semite like speaking at certain event or on about certain topics etc.)
Because the one thing we learnt from the Palestine-Israel conflict earlier this year is that conservatives would NEVER call someone a antisemitic...
Oh, wait. We're not in a fairy land. Of course, they would use the term antisemitism just to attack political opponents.
Anyways - me personally, I think it's centrist (in this case, of the Labour party) not either end of the spectrum. They're very good at using one sides call outs to attack the other side and then smear the first side for being mean (when they did nothing.) Classic Clinton move
So, the census results has really sent people into a tizzy, right? A LOT of people are saying racist stuff on national TV without realising it.
Here's another take to those people so worried about the white man dying out in America:
TLDV; US conservatives talk all the time about how minorities get treated exactly the same as the majority in the US.
If this is true, you should have absolutely no concerns about white men being a minority.
Any concerns about this just shows how you've been lying about how minorities actually get treated in the US
Here's another take to those people so worried about the white man dying out in America:
TLDV; US conservatives talk all the time about how minorities get treated exactly the same as the majority in the US.
If this is true, you should have absolutely no concerns about white men being a minority.
Any concerns about this just shows how you've been lying about how minorities actually get treated in the US
It belies their greatest belief and fear: That it is the God-given right of the majority to tyrannize the minority, and "they'll do it to us just like we did it to them!".
In this case it's not some nefarious conservative plot (though when is it normally anyway?). It's been Labour officials making such claims for many years even before Corbyn was elected he was being accused of it by others in the Labour party and suggested that's one of the reasons he shouldn't become leader.
Corbyn is usually seen as left in Labour and the attack againdy him was done by the right of the Labour party. I.e. centrist.
No, I dont think it was a conservative plot. Hence me pointing out centrist and them possibly doing it to Loach too
It requires a very simple solution in the first place. Stop terrorising people.
But we can't have that. The poors can't think for themselves and have to be forced to do rhe right
I wonder when people will stop using the word minorities.
And I don't mean that as people covering themselves so that they won't be called that.
I mean that in a general way. When are people going to stop referring to people by the percentage their skin color / religion / culture / heritage is represented in the country?
I'm actually rather surprised that this hasn't been designated a slur yet because in 99% of conversations, referencing people in such a manner adds nothing to the conversation.
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Never. Colorblindness (or its equivalent) simply reinforces tyranny of the majority. Even if all prejudice were eliminated and its downstream affects compensated for, acknowledging and celebrating diversity is a worthwhile goal in and of itself. Minority religions, cultures, and heritages should not need to be subsumed into the majority to be valid.
In a way, I sort of get Labour's thing here. It's control over its traditional working class heartlands of industrial cities has long been slipping. It is obsessed with recovering them, and frankly, Corbynism accelerated the fall.
The issue I would bring up is whether Labour shouldn't simply recalibrate towards the sorts of voters Corbyn enthused and just accept their traditional base is no longer theirs. All those "young people" are in fact workers too, and often not well paid. Repay them with some loyalty, they might be Labour's for a lifetime. Instead, Labour has effectively invited them to go and embrace apathy or another party for the dubious aim of recovering its historical voters. But in a way it doesn't matter what it does, because it will be pounded into rubble not only by the right-wing media, but the half of its own media that opposes whichever poor sod is running it at the time.
Yeh but woke types generally mock centrists as fence sitters or secret conservatives anyway. They don't normally out people or try to throw them under the bus for not echoing the right narrative to look good.
I think Labour need to split but be willing to form coalition parties and support proportional representation; the divide between the left and the right of the party is just too large. I'm on the left of the party, and some of the things the right of the party (which is the current leadership) come out with is making it a hard ask to vote for them. At least in a coalition I'd feel their worst tendencies were mitigated by the coalition, whereas if I have to vote Labour right now I'm supporting those tendencies purely through lack of other options, and I'm not sure I'll do that.
My prediction is at least one more Tory government before enough people in the party decide that a split is in the country's best interests. Labour need to lose under the left and the right to realise this, I think.
The problem is that If Labour splits, that means a Tory government pretty much forever under our first past the post system, leaving them free to do as they please like scrap the NHS, sell out to the USA for a trade deal, and generally make the UK (England and Wales, by then) a wonderland for international finance and a hole for most of its own citizens.
Labour most definitely has a problem forming a coalition with other parties, no matter whether the left or centre wing of the party. It fundamentally believes no other party has a right to represent non-Tory interests.
I feel this is more or less an issue either way TBH. If I didn't have other constraints I'd look more seriously at leaving, but /shrug.