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More dog whistles for subhumans...
"“My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci,” Musk wrote."
Not really a dog whistle, more one of those armpit farts. That's pretty much every attempt Musk makes at having wit. 'Pronouns, Imma right Dave. *yuck yuck*'
 

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Sam Bankman-Fried has been arrested in the Bahamas, and the US is requesting his extradition.


Merry xmas!
Bankman Fried said:
“I don’t think I will be arrested,”
-Sam Conman-Tried, December 12, 2022, New York Post
 

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Sam Bankman-Fried has been arrested in the Bahamas, and the US is requesting his extradition.


Merry xmas!
Okay so I've seen this story and kinda the rest of it in my news peripheral vision, but Im still not sure what FTX was. It was like an investment firm for crypto and NFTs, but the dudes running it were also crypto bros and were using other people's money to prop up their own currency?
 

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Okay so I've seen this story and kinda the rest of it in my news peripheral vision, but Im still not sure what FTX was. It was like an investment firm for crypto and NFTs, but the dudes running it were also crypto bros and were using other people's money to prop up their own currency?
That's essentially what happened.

FTX is a company that ran a crypto exchange/investment fund. It originated as a part of another crypto exchange company (Alameda Research) before splitting.

And yes, they catastrophically mishandled peoples' assets for personal gain (quelle surprise with crypto companies). Specifically, they had an ongoing secret relationship with Alameda Research after splitting-- whereby Alameda took out enormous loans to fund investments, and then secretly received crypto assets from FTX to cover the costs. FTX's other users had no idea their assets were being funnelled into a different company and used to fund risky venture shit.

This became public knowledge after some investigative reporting from Bloomberg, Wall Street Journal, CoinDesk, & NYT.

Then a holder of a huge amount of FTX's assets-- Binance, yet another crypto exchange company-- announced it would be selling off all its FTX cryptocurrency because of the above. Binance held so much of said cryptocurrency that their announcement caused a gigantic drop in price. Cue a liquidity crisis-- with the value of their own crypto so low, FTX did not have enough money to cover what people had put in.

So FTX and Alameda both went bankrupt, and Bankman-Fried has been arrested for mishandling of funds.
 
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Not really a dog whistle, more one of those armpit farts. That's pretty much every attempt Musk makes at having wit. 'Pronouns, Imma right Dave. *yuck yuck*'
Tell me you don't know what Pronouns are without telling me you don't know what pronouns are, Elon.

Yeah, I know, it's the same "Look how fucking clever I am. I"M CLEVER!" energy not unlike the "Let's go Brandon" thing.
 

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Tell me you don't know what Pronouns are without telling me you don't know what pronouns are, Elon.
What's quite funny is that if we took that at face value, it would mean we could attribute Musk's quotes to Fauci.

If we use 'Fauci' as Musk's preferred pronoun, the sentence would be: '"We will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade", Fauci said'.

I say we roll with it. 'Prosecute' and 'Fauci' now replace 'He', 'his' and 'him' when referring to Musk. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Dude throws a fit about a non-binary kid in his class, hijacks a school assembly, chases around other staff shouting at them, is suspended and has a restraining order placed on him pending a disciplinary hearing, *breaks* said restraining order and goes back to school, gets jailed, and was offered freedom *if* he agreed to follow the restraining order, iirc

Instead, he chooses to spend Xmas in jail

 

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Dude throws a fit about a non-binary kid in his class, hijacks a school assembly, chases around other staff shouting at them, is suspended and has a restraining order placed on him pending a disciplinary hearing, *breaks* said restraining order and goes back to school, gets jailed, and was offered freedom *if* he agreed to follow the restraining order, iirc

Instead, he chooses to spend Xmas in jail

The kid wasn't in his class. He would have had to go out of his way to misgender that child. He was angry other people were calling them they/them.

Also very fucking important to note is that our gay former/next head of state has been deafeningly fucking silent on the whole fucking thing. Because he's a scummy piece of shit that only uses his sexuality for point scoring when it suits him and has never once shown up for the LGBTQ+ community unless it's to actively fight against our rights.
 

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Dude throws a fit about a non-binary kid in his class, hijacks a school assembly, chases around other staff shouting at them, is suspended and has a restraining order placed on him pending a disciplinary hearing, *breaks* said restraining order and goes back to school, gets jailed, and was offered freedom *if* he agreed to follow the restraining order, iirc

Instead, he chooses to spend Xmas in jail

But... but he's just got to show that kid how wrong they are for not trying to be just like him!
 

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Dude throws a fit about a non-binary kid in his class, hijacks a school assembly, chases around other staff shouting at them, is suspended and has a restraining order placed on him pending a disciplinary hearing, *breaks* said restraining order and goes back to school, gets jailed, and was offered freedom *if* he agreed to follow the restraining order, iirc

Instead, he chooses to spend Xmas in jail

Sounds like a total biatch.
 

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Dude throws a fit about a non-binary kid in his class, hijacks a school assembly, chases around other staff shouting at them, is suspended and has a restraining order placed on him pending a disciplinary hearing, *breaks* said restraining order and goes back to school, gets jailed, and was offered freedom *if* he agreed to follow the restraining order, iirc

Instead, he chooses to spend Xmas in jail

Damn, he is just emanating strong incel vibes from mere appearance alone!
 
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Sexes absolutely exist.
Not really though.

Sexual reproduction exists. That's a real process. Different types of human sex organs exist, as do the processes that create them. Those are real physical structures. But sexes, the categorization of human beings into "men" and "women" is ultimately a highly subjective assignation of identity. You could argue that sexes are a way of "measuring" real physical differences, just as a meter can be used to measure the length of an object, but I don't even think that holds up because sex (certainly in the colloquial sense you are using it) is just too vague to be an effective measurement of anything.

The ability to impregnate or become pregnant are not social constructs.
Neither of those abilities relate in any way to a person's sex.

At the point sex is typically assigned, no human being can do those things.

Nothing in my viewpoint takes any issue with people who would challenge or dismiss societal gender roles, who would choose to live outside of that binary.
Oh, so your problem is simply that some people might want to take on learned social identities which are not derived purely from a subjective interpretation of the shape of their genitals.

Oh wait, sorry, I forgot the subjective interpretation of their genitals actually corresponds to the objective reality of their ability to reproduce, because the most important social identity a person has should clearly be based on their reproductive capacity.

The reason you aren't talking about your personal experience is because, if I recall correctly, you've lived out exactly what I'm saying. The logical contradiction exists only in a person of one sex thinking they are innately the opposite gender, which is also the only line of thinking that leads to medically transitioning children. Nothing in my viewpoint takes any issue with people who would challenge or dismiss societal gender roles, who would choose to live outside of that binary.

Did you not begin that sort of transition, one to the other within the binary, before stopping that and settling down somewhere outside the two traditional gender roles? If I do remember your situation correctly, your lived experience is in rejecting the social categories you're claiming a person can't reject. My suggestions to someone who isn't comfortable with their gender socially is ultimately to act more like you.
Firstly, are we talking about gender identity or gender roles? Those things are completely different. Frankly, for context, I also think that "gender roles" are an extremely tired and overused concept that doesn't really have a place in the majority of discussions they end up in. The concept of "gender roles" only really made sense in the context of the more ritualized or theatrical aspects of relationships between men and women, not as an explanation for all aspects of sexed behavior. Most people aren't playing these rigid, clearly defined male and female roles, they're just being themselves. Being yourself while also being a gendered being is where we start to get into the concept of identity.

Secondly, because you insist on the (incorrect) idea that sex and gender are entirely separate concepts, you miss something very obvious. Gender dysphoria isn't a feeling of alienation from your gender role , it's a feeling of alienation from your sexed body. Every human is assigned a sex at birth, and from birth is taught to view and think of themselves as "belonging" to that sex on the basis of their anatomy. That sense of belonging to a sex is gender identity. A child with gender dysphoria has not magically developed the belief that they must secretly belong to the opposite sex on the basis of some nebulous metaphysical property, they are typically expressing an alienation from their sexed bodies in the only terms that make sense to them.

Thirdly, there's a misunderstanding here of what is involved in "rejection". I don't feel any particular sense of belonging to either sex, but that doesn't mean that I am a genderless robot. I cannot live some pure life outside of the sex/gender binary any more than you can, and neither would I particularly want to. See, once you stop obsessing over genitals and chromosomes and tying the value of your lives to reproduction for no particular reason, once you stop taking gender incredibly seriously and believing that it's actually a totally 100% very real thing called sex, it can actually be pretty fun.
 

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Not really though.

Sexual reproduction exists. That's a real process. Different types of human sex organs exist, as do the processes that create them. Those are real physical structures. But sexes, the categorization of human beings into "men" and "women" is ultimately a highly subjective assignation of identity. You could argue that sexes are a way of "measuring" real physical differences, just as a meter can be used to measure the length of an object, but I don't even think that holds up because sex (certainly in the colloquial sense you are using it) is just too vague to be an effective measurement of anything.
Its certainly been effective enough for the biological field of science, and for husbandry, and for most other practical purposes.

Exceptions, or somewhat imprecise characteristics, do not invalidate a system of categorisation. They merely necessitate that the system of categorisation is not taken to be absolute/rigid/binary, as sex is much too often assumed to be.

Neither of those abilities relate in any way to a person's sex.
Well, no, they clearly do relate. What you mean is they don't /always correspond/.

Sexual characteristics have the single largest influence on whether someone is likely to develop those traits or not. That level of influence is such that they create a correspondence rate of 95+%. Its not absolute, it doesn't always correspond, exceptions exist-- but of course it relates.

A correspondence rate <100% =/= unrelated.