If that guy is your entirely reason for believing something, you probably shouldn't be volunteering your opinion like this.Oof, oh poor ole Benny Shapps has been falling off a cliff lately, more than I initially assumed. Thought and prayers
If that guy is your entirely reason for believing something, you probably shouldn't be volunteering your opinion like this.Oof, oh poor ole Benny Shapps has been falling off a cliff lately, more than I initially assumed. Thought and prayers
If you assume everyone forms their entire belief system from a single person in a video you see them share, you're going to only keep making yourself look silly by continuously self-reporting like this.If that guy is your entirely reason for believing something, you probably shouldn't be volunteering your opinion like this.
You did more than share a video. You also wrote words. The words indicated surprise at how much he was "falling off". One can only presume that the video then linked is what surprised you and convinced you he was "falling off".If you assume everyone forms their entire belief system from a single person in a video you see them share, you're going to only keep making yourself look silly by continuously self-reporting like this.
Or as it is commonly called, "libertarianism"."Everyone else should be willing and eager to die for my freedoms" is unfortunately a widespread mentality.
You have either misunderstood what Paul Offit is writing here, or you've not recognised the difference between what he's saying and what you said.You can't stop covid transmissions/infections because of the nature of the virus
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You’re not gonna do that with this virus. This virus will continue to circulate and cause mild disease, even if a hundred percent of the world were vaccinated and even if it never mutated coming out of China, it would still circulate and cause mild illness and in some severe illness.
But people do get colds pretty much every winter. The idea that "you'd get more than 2-4 colds a year" is just your pure speculation; it's groundless.If colds transmitted as simply by being next to a sick person in line at the grocery store, you'd get more than 2-4 colds a year. I'm betting you always interact with a sick person in the fall/winter/spring when you buy groceries. Funny how you don't randomly get sick out of the blue and get sick when friends/family/co-workers are sick.
You don't comprehend what people such as Paul Offit are actually saying. It's telling that you've posted several long tracts from him here that don't back up what you're claiming, but you're acting as if they do. This shows how little you comprehend of it all.I've always said the covid vaccine protects against severe disease (for a long time for most normal people). It doesn't effect transmission or getting infected. You don't read what people say.
"Kids need the vaccine" is a value judgement, a political question depending on a lot more than the science. After all this time, you still fail to distinguish between policy and science.Already did years ago. Nobody here was able to find a cost-benefit analysis that said kids needed the vaccine. If you're forcing someone/some group to get some intervention, you have to prove the intervention provides overall benefit and community benefit. That was not done, that is not how you do science. The people claiming things have to prove their claims, not the other way around.
OK, so you've just shifted the conversation entirely. You're now talking about aid, arguing that one country locking down and reducing aid forced other countries to halt programs. That's not the same claim; the country's own lockdown didn't force any such shutdown in that scenario.The rich countries that could lockdown are the countries that provide aid to poorer countries. The poor countries need rich countries to help with nutrition and immunization programs during normal times like now, let alone during a pandemic. Rich countries shutdown, halted non-essential programs like aid to other countries, and those other countries suffered. It was hilarious even here, just traveling in the US for work, we would get emails saying such and such place (that we were traveling to) was red and try to not travel there. You think we were sending people to foreign countries in the middle of the covid pandemic when we were being told not to even travel in the US?
People get infected-- even severely infected-- more than once. Paul Offit supported getting kids vaccinated in resource-rich countries, but suddenly your deference to authority falls apart.Most kids already had covid before their vaccine was even available, the vaccine then literally provides no benefit.
To me, this is no longer good enoughYou made a claim. You claimed the cost-benefit analysis showed more harm than benefit for these groups. That is an exceptional, positive claim. You need to substantiate it.
But how much MONEY was lost in Australia? How many millions of dollars were not spent because of lockdown? That's the only thing that matters. What's a few deaths for the sake of being able to buy the latest Playstation 5 game?To me, this is no longer good enough
There are around 340 million people in the US. 27 million in Australia. So Australia is around 8% of the US population.
Around 600,000 to 650,000 people died in America in 2020. 8% of this is around 47,000. So, if Australia treated COVID like the US, you could, as a rough estimate, guess that 47,000 Aussie
Guess how many people died in Australia in 2020? 920. 1/50 of the number of deaths. Having 98% fewer deaths seems like a community benefit. It also reduced deaths to suicide and dementia, schools were open, no masks were needed, and Australia's economy was great. Seems like a benefit to me.... not only that, I was making this info known to him sometime in 2021. This is not news anymore
Phoenix is so wrong that it makes me question what they mean by 'cost-benefit'. Applying only costs to the idea you want to demonise and only benefits to the ideas you want to lionise is not a cost-benefit analysis. If you are going to use a term like cost-benefit analysis, use it like everyone else, not your own made up definition
Nope it depends on what what type of zombies, and whether it can suppressed quickly enough to not reach critical mass. USSOCOM units could quicky deal with most zombie outbreaks unless they are Halo's flood tier zombies. Even a type 3 civilization that is a dictatorship would find it hard-pressed to deal with them.Good gods. Its years after covid and we're still dealing with people that stress that not letting covid run rampant was the REAL problem. If there's a zombie apocalypse we're all doomed.
Like Democracy experts who flee to other counties because of Trump. You all should protest, but if Trump comes after me I am should be able to leave."Everyone else should be willing and eager to die for my freedoms" is unfortunately a widespread mentality.
And then in 2022, you had like 20,000 extra deaths but only reported like 1/3rd of that as covid related.Guess how many people died in Australia in 2020? 920. 1/50 of the number of deaths.
Sure: on that logic, may as well stop bothering with healthcare. After all, they'll all be dead in the end either way.Covid is endemic, essentially the entire globe has had it and will continue to have it cyclically for the foreseeable future. You can be pleased about how your country handled it if you like, but if you think you magically avoided 98% of the death toll, you're delusional.
Please don't give them any ideasSure: on that logic, may as well stop bothering with healthcare. After all, they'll all be dead in the end either way.
That's not remotely my logic. I'm saying what we knew from the very beginning: slow the spread, flatten the curve. Eradicate the virus so that nobody ever gets it isn't feasible and never was, so we do what we can to manage coexistence.Sure: on that logic, may as well stop bothering with healthcare. After all, they'll all be dead in the end either way.

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First, they came for the 1.5 million people with active deportation orders signed by judges after going through the entire legal process required to do so, and I did not speak out, because I had not been ordered deported through complete due process.First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
If you delay people catching a lethal virus until there's a vaccine, then a lot of people who might have died of the virus won't because they got vaccinated.That's not remotely my logic. I'm saying what we knew from the very beginning: slow the spread, flatten the curve.
They have deported the following people...First, they came for the 1.5 million people with active deportation orders signed by judges after going through the entire legal process required to do so, and I did not speak out, because I had not been ordered deported through complete due process.
Then, that was it, because it takes more than 4 years to get through that list.
The end.
Even if one agreed with that argument, that's 46%. I mean, if someone was to toss a coin, heads you personally get deported, tails it's a Trump supporter, is that ok? 50-50 you get someone who supported Trump, and the other person doesn't matter?If he were to start deporting people who aren't my people, I would not do anything. Why go to those anti-ICE rallies again, when 46% of the people that Trump wants to harm, kick out, possibly in the future, harm every single people like me, and likely most other Americans, and make suffer to decrease their taxes, because they couldn't be bothered to be informed, or are too lazy. There were people calling ICE on undocumented workers who backed, or had family who voted for DJT. I mean, I haven't done that, but it's kind of crappy to backstab people who are fighting for your rights.
And the weird part is a lot of those 46% of people are racists, or apathetic to the suffering of African Americans who pushed LBJ to sign the Civil Rights Act, which is the reason most immigrants are in the US today, and they got backstabbed by many of those same immigrants so it's not surprising to me that the African American community mostly sticks to themselves.