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TheMysteriousGX

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AFAIK (as it crossed my feed), the game makers agree the trigger warnings weren't sufficient and have altered them.
Yep.

There's some Critical Discourse over how people engage with media going on that's really interesting (to me, at least)
 
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Are you calling me a misandrist?
As a joke. It's pointing out that your logic assumes the worst of men in general. There's also an implicit assumption that the problem is endemic and little or nothing can be done about it.

Do I think you believe these things? No. Do I think your logic is making some assumptions and not really helping? Yes.
 
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In a world in which gaming companies are filled to bursting with sexual harassment allegations. Jason can't hold back from his wokeness and posts about a new gaming studio being formed by a bunch of dudes, because "Muh Diversity though!".

Ever think that a group of friends might have just wanted to get together and make some fucking video games together? Ever think that maybe they don't want to deal with the drama that seems to come about whenever women get into a studio formal driven by a bunch of bros? Ever think that maybe these guys simply don't have any female friends with the qualifications to develop video games?

Since it seems like video game developers can't control their "Bro-ness", perhaps an all-dude gaming studio is a good idea. No tits to grope No temptation to succumb too. And No outsiders to be offended by inside jokes.

Would it be a wonderful world if dudes comes just not be creepy shitheads and keep there hands to themselves? Yes. Since that doesn't seem to be possible, removing the temptation from the playing fields seems like a reasonable choice. Can't sexual harass women when there are no women to harass. Makes sense to me.


Reading the actual article, it seems that these devs worked well together in the past and simply decided to join together to form their own independent studio to make some games together. But Jason only sees a bunch of white dudes, and nothing more. Offering no consideration to the circumstances that plague the industry as a whole, no does he offer up any consideration for the people making this studio. Fuck them they can't be friends, there are too many white dicks on that team.

It's an insane mindset. Schreier has done great work, but time and time again he falls into this ridiculous "woke" mindset, and ends up blocking half of twitter when people call him out on it.
You know, while this Jason dude is probably yet another hypocritical neo progressive who would have gotten all excited had the picture contained only women, I really don't like most of the arguments you are bringing forth. I mean all that had to be said is in your last two paragraphs. The above are all bad arguments, clearly the solution to toxic work environments in gaming companies is not to exclude women so they cannot be victimized...
 

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It's starting to seem to me that the way things work is that there's a level of how bad something needs to be to make one person see it as a problem and much further above that is the level it needs to be to make anyone else see it as something that they should go out of their way to find solutions to.
The problem can truly be bad but it can also not be bad enough that people living tens of thousands of miles away from it feel they should or even CAN do something about it. Knowing this, even if subconsciously, the person talking about the problem decides they have to play up the issue so they can get the attention of everyone else because they think that so long as they can at least get your attention then everyone else should then feel the same way about whatever problem they're talking about once they look at it.
But then once people actually look at the problem they then see it's not as bad as what was said and does not actually reach the level it needs to be for them to either care or at least feel that they have any ability to fix it.
The person that made does care is then scandalized, shocked that these people don't feel the same as them or that their proposed solutions aren't designed for how bad it is but how bad they played it up to be and so they tell those people that they are horrible and awful and thus we get discussions like in this thread.
 
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You know, while this Jason dude is probably yet another hypocritical neo progressive who would have gotten all excited had the picture contained only women, I really don't like most of the arguments you are bringing forth. I mean all that had to be said is in your last two paragraphs. The above are all bad arguments, clearly the solution to toxic work environments in gaming companies is not to exclude women so they cannot be victimized...
What amazes me about the modern world is that anyone gives that much of a damn what Jason "Who the hell is Jason Schrier?" Schrier says.
 

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I'm just confused and agitated at this point I'm trying to give the most sanest advice I can think of, trying to give advice to appeal to people, both men and women, on how to avoid potentially horrible company, and I'm getting responses telling me that I am not only wrong, but horrendously wrong. And people telling me I should not have a daughter of my own.
Man, if I was going to say anything like that, I would be saying I hope you don't have a son of your own.

You're either going to excuse rape behaviour or just not believe that he cant be a rapist. What you have been stating could be classed as misandry

I personally wouldn't say that about you because I hope you can grow before you have children. But I'm not going to stop them saying this because ITS THAT FUCKING SERIOUS. Your likely to damage your own son mentally

My workplaces has 30 women and then me, and it been that way for over 10 years. Guess how many I've raped? Or even been suggested to have harassed? See, its actually REAL easy not to sexually harass people. But if you don't bother holding yourself to account for that, someone else will. There's a term for it: personal responsibility
 

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Man, if I was going to say anything like that, I would be saying I hope you don't have a son of your own.

You're either going to excuse rape behaviour or just not believe that he cant be a rapist. What you have been stating could be classed as misandry

I personally wouldn't say that about you because I hope you can grow before you have children. But I'm not going to stop them saying this because ITS THAT FUCKING SERIOUS. Your likely to damage your own son mentally

My workplaces has 30 women and then me, and it been that way for over 10 years. Guess how many I've raped? Or even been suggested to have harassed? See, its actually REAL easy not to sexually harass people. But if you don't bother holding yourself to account for that, someone else will. There's a term for it: personal responsibility
I am not excusing Rape behavior. Don't assume that I don't think these people should not be held accountable for harassing people.
 

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I am not excusing Rape behavior. Don't assume that I don't think these people should not be held accountable for harassing people.
There's various forms of 'excusing' behaviour. For example, a person could be for punishment of a rapist but then excuse the responsibility of people by saying that women need to dress appropriately or that schools should be segregated by gender to stop rapes happening.

And it this train of thought skips over the fact that some women are rapist. It wasn't that long ago when women couldn't legally rape people.
 

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Hasan Piker or Hasan the Hun a communist or socialist who has a Twitch Stream, and it's quite popular. He is now buying a 3 million dollar home, and people are attacking him and defending him.

Granted I have never given money to Twitch. I basically have given up on progressive politics due to the number of elite academics who have taken positions of authority on the left, none of them are like Bernie a humble BA holder, they are all Ph.D., high-powered government officials, and pretty elite. I am more a democrat, and populist.
 
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Hasan Piker or Hasan the Hun a communist or socialist who has a Twitch Stream, and it's quite popular. He is now buying a 3 million dollar home, and people are attacking him and defending him.

Granted I have never given money to Twitch. I basically have given up on progressive politics due to the number of elite academics who have taken positions of authority on the left, none of them are like Bernie a humble BA holder, they are all Ph.D., high-powered government officials, and pretty elite. I am more a democrat, and populist.
So, education and specialised knowledge bad? Just say you're an anti-intellectualist.
 

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Come again?
The fact that you hate education explains so much.
The word "anti-intellectualism" came about not from people being against intelligence or education. It wasn't (anti-intellectual)ism, it was anti-(intellectualism), where the intellectualism is a synonym for rationalism, the idea that human reason is the chief source of truth and knowledge. As a religious person, I may have a different perspective on that than most of this board, but even setting all that aside, you shouldn't like that idea. Rationalism is in contrast to empiricism, the idea that knowledge comes from sensory experience. Anti-intellectualism, from it's etymology, is not criticism of having or obtaining knowledge, it's criticism of those who act as though their facilities of reason are capable of independently assessing all the truths of reality without outside influence.

That the word has molded instead into being opposed to knowledge or intelligence is a real shame. Exceptionally few people are opposed to knowledge or intelligence, but any reasonable person is against know-it-alls rationalizing their positions. As an intelligent person myself, I can say with confidence that faith in pure intellect is a horrible trap, as intellect is just as capable of rationalizing dumb beliefs as it is of obtaining valid ones.
 

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So, education and specialised knowledge bad? Just say you're an anti-intellectualist.
Don't confuse education for intellectualism. You can have all massive impressive educational achievements but they can be not worth a damn in real life due to how disconnected academia can be from reality. Jut look at a number of UK MPs who went through academia right into politics and have proven the inability to do basic maths.
 

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Wait...I thought refusing to take the vaccine was white privilige?

Or was that white rage?
Again, I don't know anymore, as it's clear i'll never pass their purity tests no matter what I do.
 

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Again, I don't know anymore, as it's clear i'll never pass their purity tests no matter what I do.
Want me to save you a spot in the pit?

But in seriousness there's been a far lower Vaccine take up among POCs at least in the USA because you know pretty nasty history of the USA experimenting on POC which was recently brought back into public consciousness by the likes of Falcon and The Winter Soldier .