Furry Morality Question

[slightly evil]

Done, awesomeness ensues.
Seriously, so long as I could still talk etc. I'd take it, I'm a very fluffy person =3
Fuck the stigma, I'm a geek with mild autism and dreadlocks, nobody who matters to me would care if I was furry

 

[Fiend13]

Except such a thing can't exist because to excel in a any field of physical activity you need a special build. Coincidentally, each and every single one of these builds (be it for strength, agility, speed etc) doesn't allow for a humanoid skull form. In other words you wouldn't improve but trade brains for said abilities. That is by the way the reason we don't see X-Men running about.

 

[Mistermixmaster]

Tough one... Hmm, I'd say it would depend on what kind of level of furry this serum would put me into... If I just gain a tail and/or ears, I'd go for it. If it did however improve my growth of hair, and I started to gain fur or some stuff like that, F*CK NO. That would scare the living hell out of me. (Also, a tail and/or ears is easily concealed from the general populace.)

Also, I dunno what kind of animal I would choose if I'd take the serum... Is it even possible to choose an animal for this serum so you get proper smart on Radiologic Science?

 

[Section Crow]

yeah i probably would do it, your always going to have people discrimination against you for choices you make.

plus this way we can save animal DNA in a creepy way...

 

[Emergent System]

Except such a thing can't exist because to excel in a any field of physical activity you need a special build. Coincidentally, each and every single one of these builds (be it for strength, agility, speed etc) doesn't allow for a humanoid skull form. In other words you wouldn't improve but trade brains for said abilities. That is by the way the reason we don't see X-Men running about.

Your brain and skull can have all kinds of interesting forms and shapes [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation] without it impairing you dramatically. The only real problem is giving birth to things with really large heads, but if it's post-birth that wouldn't be an issue.

 

[White Deer]

You get powers AND you turn into an animal?Where's the problem?!

 

[Tradjus]

I don't feel there's much of a moral quandary here, the question is: "Would you make yourself better and more awesome in every way, or not because you're either the type of person who would make life hell for those who do or scared of those types of people." It all comes down too being either brave, racist, or scared of racists and those aren't moral standpoints.

Besides, people who are scoffing at the idea know deep down that were it a reality they'd likely do it because the point of evolution, natural or forced, is to keep up with the Joneses and anyone not using this product would be swiftly left behind to gather dust on the shelf of obsolescence.

 

[Kikyoo]

Well if enough athletes did it, you would have two different leagues of play. One for the spliced and one for the un-spliced. It would be the only way to do it.... but on the other hand you'd have to deal with one being wildly more popular than the other. Also about the "Price point" The price could come down if 2 types of the serum are in circulation. First is the normal use one, basically one use and your the beast man. But then there would be the military grade one. Minimal controlled effect with maximum controlled power. Basically several splicing things mixed together to have all the best things from different animals. Eyes like a hawk, sharp hearing and sense of smell, sharp reflexes strength, and you know they would try to get those soldiers to fly, and have as many biological weapons as they could afford. I could see "that" getting expensive, but just being spliced with one animal not so much.

Now would I do it or not? probably yes. I would want to go with a form of Turtle, probably an alligator snapping turtle. Shell, a wicked bite, and some enhanced stamina and durability would make me a human freight train. or spliced freight train as it were.

I think the REAL controversy would come with children. A baby is born and the parents want them to be a howler monkey. They have the money and preform the operation. Now that child has no say, they just get spliced for the rest of their life. Kids at school be damned, but the novelty of it would wear off pretty quick for that little kid. That is where the real controversy would be. Is it ethical to force all your children to be spliced? Or to be spliced before a certain age. Then new laws would be enforced, but only in some places, while other places it would be lawful to have all your children spliced. It would be a fairly big issue, for obvious reasons.

Laws age limits and obviously splicing rare animals would be more expensive, but possibly not give that much more benefit. A cheeta is basically just a big cat, not that different than your common house cat. but the house cat would be cheap and easy, while the Cheeta would be expensive and rare. Supply and demand would be a huge factor in how this would play out, but I for one, would be for it.

 

[Mcmuffin]

ide do it in a heartbeat. Ide get used to being part animal, the rewards are well worth it as long as lifespan and such are still the same and it causes no other side effects. Also 90% sure this was a plotline for Batman Beyond

 

[CG NUTS]

depends on what would happen to my nether region.

 

[CarlMin]

I would totally do it. Heck, I'm a furry and would probably sign up for the serum even if it didn't have any positive affects on my intellect. Furries, in my opinion, are by far more attractive than human beings.

 

[Fiend13]

Your brain and skull can have all kinds of interesting forms and shapes [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation] without it impairing you dramatically. The only real problem is giving birth to things with really large heads, but if it's post-birth that wouldn't be an issue.

1. Regarding the brain the size matters more than the form.

2. No where in that article is stated anything about the intellectual impact of such a deformation. A quick google search produced results in your favor. However, this specific example of deformation is most likely not relevant to my argument, because the deformation is not created for physical but cultural 'enhancement'. A recent study indicated form and size of the jaw are directly related to the size of the brain and therefor intellectual capability (the deformation in question leaves the jaw entirely intact). Basically, the less distinct the jaw of a creature is the bigger its brain can be. Looking at all predator mamals and even apes (especially gorillas) this thesis is true. In my opinion (not scientific but reasonable) creatures with outstanding physical abilities needed these jaws to process high energy food to maintain their physis. Considering that the mutual influence of genetics and lifestyle is well documented i would deduct further that the feature 'massiv jaw' (and therefor small brain; also lacking ability to verbally communicate btw) is now saved withing these animals core dna.

Taking all these considerations into account i concede to your point as follows:
Since we humans have other means than big jaws to process high energy food it might be possible to artificially engineer something that gives us the features in question. However it will be not possible using existent animal dna, because the jaws are a vital part of their entire anatomy and simply cutting parts of dna would most certainly be lethal.

 

[mcnally86]

"If man were crossed with a cat it would improve the man but degrade the cat"
~Samuel Clemens (Tom Sawyer)
"More human the hu man"
~Rob Zombie
Think of all that hair. I give the sewer system a day before its completely clogged and backs up. Fleas and other assorted animals will be hugely problematic. I see was coming out of furries everywhere. Undoubtedly this would be the collapse of civilization. I think what furries fail to be thinking about hear is that a cat girl can be sexy in a cartoon; IRL this is horrible nightmare fuel, all matted fur and smelly and so horrible a child would weep in fear.

Edit: I attributed the first quote to the wrong Tom. Its fixed now.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

well I rather doubt the government is going to make me a meta human and jsut let me go back to my life.
Chances are they want either a few years or a lifetime of servetude to advance toe great nation of Canada..............that said. I'd do it. As long as being a tigerman doesn't make me worse at things that reequire delacate finger work.
If I suddenly am stronger but unable to paint or play guitar or type on a keyboard or whatnot then no......

 

[Tommeh Brownleh]

I can smell the bioshock scenario from a mile away. Plus I'm already mentally superior to everyone I know, and the only way this could work in my view is if we kill the people who sign up for it because obviously they all come from the shallow end of the gene pool.

 

[BlackStar42]

No thank you, I'm ugly enough as it is.

 

[Selway]

There seems to be this assumption that you're going to end up looking like something out of an anime rather than say this [http://www.brookstreetpictures.com/jackbrooks/press/photos/Kristyn-Butcher-as-Mutant-Janice-in-Jack-Brooks-Monster-Slayer.jpg] guy. The premise is that you become physically and mentally better, no one said pretty, pretty nekos one and all. Some of the things we've done just with plants genetically is misguided enough. Look into Monsanto a bit, they basically want to patent forms of life. Whether it's over blown or not it doesn't make them any less douchey. Now imagine what the company that made the serum might be like, especially if it's free.

 

[FexusMaximus]

It almost sounds like what the Space Marine process does in Warhammer 40k if I must be nerd and drop this, which raises my question....Could I be like a Space Wolf?
If so, then yes.

If not....I'd have to think on it.

 

[Fiend13]

I can smell the bioshock scenario from a mile away. Plus I'm already mentally superior to everyone I know, and the only way this could work in my view is if we kill the people who sign up for it because obviously they all come from the shallow end of the gene pool.

First of all the second part has been used as a invocation to either genocide or euthanasia in almost these exact words (stating such a thing is illegal in every democratic country of the world btw) so you might wanna rephrase that. Also just out of curiosity: how do you determine 'mental superiority'?

 

[mcnally86]

There seems to be this assumption that you're going to end up looking like something out of an anime rather than say this [http://www.brookstreetpictures.com/jackbrooks/press/photos/Kristyn-Butcher-as-Mutant-Janice-in-Jack-Brooks-Monster-Slayer.jpg] guy. The premise is that you become physically and mentally better, no one said pretty, pretty nekos one and all. Some of the things we've done just with plants genetically is misguided enough. Look into Monsanto a bit, they basically want to patent forms of life. Whether it's over blow or not it doesn't make them any less douchey. Now imagine what the company that made the serum might be like, especially if it's free.

Thats unfair clearly you would look like http://www.waveish.com/iwave/images/37/o-the-dark-crystal-skeksil-the-chamberlain-action-figure.jpg . Im thinking thats come sort of majestic eagle. Did you know an eagle is a carrion bird?