Gaddafi is dead

[VladBlok28]

I am amazed at these posts here, Escapist..
Do ALL of you believe the western media blindly?

I know a couple of Libyans, and I know what their "oppressed" life under Gaddafi was like. Social security, free education, free housing, free studying abroad, very high standard of living (above many western countries at that). If you just look at the cars they are driving in the war footage, you see these are no poor people.

So why then the rebellion? Because they don't like how rich they are??

If you do some research, you will find that certain oil trade agreements between some western countries and Libya were about to expire, and Gaddafi stated he would stop trading with the west and focus on Russia and China instead. Lo and behold, suddenly starts a western supported "rebellion" in this oil rich country. What a wonderful coincidence.

No thanks, I won't buy that. If any of you still think media is to be trusted, just look at the Occupy Wall st. movement and how much coverage that's been getting (not much). And that's in the middle of New York! Imagine how much they can twist the truth all the way from Africa.

Gaddafi was no saint, but he was much better for the Libyan people that what they have coming, which is western exploitation of THEIR natural resources.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Finally Libya can start getting stuff done. Hopefully they remember all the countries that helped when they restore order, and start trading effectively again.

 

[nat_401]

The UN and USA didn't even try to catch him.

Well done for figuring that one out, it was the NTC who were trying to catch him, the USA and UN didnt want to deal with this at all, they must be happy that he never left Libya and became their problem to deal with.

And why do people think he was executed on the spot? He was forced into an ambulance and driven off, maybe he was executed in the ambulance, plenty of reasons why this could of happened, maybe he died of wounds from being bombed then involved in a firefight, whih is something most people would die of yeah. No-one except the people in the ambulance will know the truth. The NTC would of loved to stand him up in court and accuse him of every misfortune in Libya since he took control, that would of cemented them as the Libyan authority in the people's minds, now they have to acturly help Libyan people and prove they diserve to make decisions until elections (hopefully) are held.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

Dibs on his collection of silly hats ????.

But seriously here is hoping that Libya will get better not worse

 

[HerbertTheHamster]

snip

But now they can become just like Iran!

yay!

 

[Jegsimmons]

gaddafi is dead
Osama is dead
saddam is dead
Kim Jong Il has pancreatic cancer
and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is still alive.

Now lets play a game of "guess which ones got a fair trial".

ok, let me point out your logical flaws.

Osama was armed and could not have been taken alive, he refused too, so they used lethal force which is perfectly legal to do. especially when it Navy seals for fuck sake. Standing up against them means srs bsns.
Saddam was given a trial.
Daffy was captured but died from his wounds. Understandable.
the other two are obvious.



so check and mate.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Well, if this is true, then he should of gotten a proper trial and imprisonment.

Hopefully Libya can start sorting itself out now.

ALSO: Gaddafi had a golden gun? That's pretty pimp.

If it's so pimp how come only psycho-dictators and over-compensating bling enthusiasts ever have them?

OT: With Gaddafi confirmed dead, it is a bit of a shame. His trial would have been the "crazy psycho spouting moon logic" trial of the century.

Em is that not what makes something pimp?

 

[Jegsimmons]

also i thought this was funny.

i just call him 'daffy'

 

[GameMaNiAC]

What a shame.

He was this close to making General.

I c what you did thar.

OT: I don't think Gaddafi should be killed, I am not against anyone or anything, but he is not a bad man.

 

[i am nobody]

vladblok28, i couldn't have said it better.

i'll leave you guys with 2 links:

http://mayihlome.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/the-truth-and-the-myth-of-the-war-in-libya/

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-728459.0.html

 

[Gothproxy]

Great! Can someone take out Mahmoud Ahmadinejad now?

 

[Dango]

Well, if this is true, then he should of gotten a proper trial and imprisonment.

This. Killing him is the wrong way to end the conflict.

 

[BaronUberstein]

Great, hopefully this time it won't lead to another power struggle where our soldiers spend 8 years fruitlessly trying to maintain stability in the country like that last middle eastern kurfuffle we got ourselves into.

...you realize there are no NATO soldiers on Libyan soil? The most NATO has done is give air support and intelligence to the rebels.

It's up to the rebels to run their own country, that's why they have the transitional government in Benghazi.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

Well, if this is true, then he should of gotten a proper trial and imprisonment.

Hopefully Libya can start sorting itself out now.

ALSO: Gaddafi had a golden gun? That's pretty pimp.

If it's so pimp how come only psycho-dictators and over-compensating bling enthusiasts ever have them?

OT: With Gaddafi confirmed dead, it is a bit of a shame. His trial would have been the "crazy psycho spouting moon logic" trial of the century.

Em is that not what makes something pimp?

Touche.

also i thought this was funny.

i just call him 'daffy'

Okay, that made me laugh.

 

[pumuckl]

i think he was anti-west, so villified, and made to look rediculous like all of the us's enemies... i like how we find them all in sum unglorified hovel half dead... it's such b.s.

 

[Nevermore43]

I'm glad that evil F---er is dead. The world is better off.

 

[Tohuvabohu]

But.... he was such a sharp dresser.

A very pathetic and unceremonious way to go. He was outnumbered, disarmed, wounded, utterly helpless. And they execute him, shot to the head. It just seems so... barbaric. Disappointing. I've seen the video of him being manhandled by the cheering shouting rebels. They all seemed like animals.

Of course, I don't know what it's like to be in the shoes of those rebels, nor do I understand why they were so mad at him. From my standpoint, it all seems so wrong.

What will the world do without his fabulous sense of fashion?

 

[Altorin]

Just as with Bin Laden I think someone shouldn't sink to his level and kill him without question, but be the better man and decide in court what is just. However, it is still better for the world that this mad man is dead. But if he is dead that means the rebels now have one hell of job to get the country back in order, I'd think.

I'm sorry, but this is what Lawful Stupids would do. Gaddafi's killed enough people to fill a small town, and getting capped by an angry gunman doesn't make that angry gunman as much of a villain as Gaddafi is.

No, no it would not sink the gunmen to the same level as Gaddafi, but I ask you this, what is the point of having a justice system, if when you find a bona-fide criminal, you don't actually use the bloody justice system?

Who's justice system? Do they arrest him and extradite him to america? He's done no crimes against america. Do we wait until the rebels have won and instituted a justice system of their own? This is how despots end. It's how despots ALWAYS end. If tomorrow, Obama decided that he wasn't ever going to give up power, and somehow had the army on his side, perhaps due to some sort of religious indoctrination, he would end either being hung, or shot. There's no "fair trial" for people who commit crimes against humanity. The result of the trial is basically predetermined because the people doing the trial are the ENEMIES of the person being tried. So, if the result of the trial is predetermined and the end result is execution, what cause, other then assuaging the morals of the victors, is there in having a mock trial?

All it does is waste time and money.

So that's pretty much what makes it different - crimes against humanity. Saddam Hussein got a trial, but we all knew how that was going to end. There wasn't going to be a loophole big enough for him to get off scottfree, because the people holding the noose were bound and determined it was going to go around his neck.

I say just save time and money, and if a despot falls, you just let what happens happen, because it's going to anyway.

 

[funguy2121]

Gaddafi was apparently found in a hole by a fighter, and was injured. He is now apparently dead, though all this is yet to be independently verified.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15389550

Thoughts?

Great, I've been waiting for weeks to post a youtube clip from Back to the Future of Doc saying "Oh my god, they found me. I don't know but they found me...who do you think? The Libyans!"

...and it's still unconfirmed.

 

[Ruwrak]

Great, he's dead. Can we go home now?
Still not seeing why we're supposed to go there and liberate Libia.
If we help liberating one country, why not the next? And the next? And the next?

I won't say "Daww a shame he won't be on trial." Him beeing dead spares taxpayers money for a long, long, long, long, long trial like with any other war criminal. (Milosovich anyone?)
At least the people got what they want now. Let's see how they handle freedom.

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