Gamers Demand Dark Souls PC Port

[Spacewolf]

Pfftt...Dark Souls is kindergarten stuff next to Dwarf Fortress or Eve.

Oops, I wasn't finished with this quote and I forgot about it when I hit post.

Those two games aren't so much hard as so immense that it's difficult to figure everything out and I firmly believe if Dwarf Fortress was graphical instead of Ascii and had a proper tutorial it'd be far easier.

just wait till you reach the bottom of the map thats when the difficulty cureve comes into play once more.

Also does dark souls needs a online connection to use due to that invading greifer system?

 

[ElPatron]

As I have stated before, if it has Mods, I won't buy it. If it doesn't, I will buy it again to play it on my laptop.

wat. If it has mods you won't buy it and if it doesn't you'll buy it again...?

Without going into it again, I will say this. Dark Souls doesn't support it self to mods. It is tightly crafted, the way the online works, to the world. Everything should be kept the way it was original created.

So you mean tweaking in the game mechanics, actual modification made by the developers?

Because what you said made it seem like if anyone dares to mod the game, you won't buy it even if you are not obligated to install.

 

[LilithSlave]

Really? That's shocking, I thought PC gamers didn't like Asian games as a majority.

Speaking of which, just like PC gamers don't like Asia, Asia does not like PC gamers. Which is probably why you're never going to get it no matter how hard you try. %90 of Japanese games do not make it to the PC and when they do it is almost always an inferior port. Because aside from doujin creators(who don't have a choice, really), Japan does not like the PC platform.

It's surprising to see PC gamers clamoring for a non-Western game. But I doubt it's going to help.

 

[Baresark]

As I have stated before, if it has Mods, I won't buy it. If it doesn't, I will buy it again to play it on my laptop.

wat. If it has mods you won't buy it and if it doesn't you'll buy it again...?

Without going into it again, I will say this. Dark Souls doesn't support it self to mods. It is tightly crafted, the way the online works, to the world. Everything should be kept the way it was original created.

I don't see how being able to support mods would make the game any worse. I can see your train of thought but mods are completely optional. You can still play the game vanilla. No one's going to force you to download this mod or that.

Because of how the game works. The online doesn't support it. What people fail to understand is that this will BE A PORT. They will not overhaul the whole multiplayer system so then a couple of people could mod.

No offense, but what you are saying is completely irrelevant to the game. It can't conceivably support mods, but no one has even said anything about modding it or having it support mods. I for one would buy this a second time, no questions asked, if it were to show up on Steam. Mods shouldn't even begin to make or break the idea of a purchase for anyone. They are completely optional, and while the online mechanic has it's positives, there was plenty of times it was more annoying than fun. But, as with the console counterpart, it's optional.

It was talked about in the other thread. I sort of brought it into here.

LoL, I see. Makes sense. I'm ultimately with you though, no mods for a game like this. I kind of hate the whole mentality that it "MUST" have modding in order to be a true PC title. When the reality is that while modding can be awesome, it's hardly fit for every game out there.

 

[Ickorus]

Pfftt...Dark Souls is kindergarten stuff next to Dwarf Fortress or Eve.

Oops, I wasn't finished with this quote and I forgot about it when I hit post.

Those two games aren't so much hard as so immense that it's difficult to figure everything out and I firmly believe if Dwarf Fortress was graphical instead of Ascii and had a proper tutorial it'd be far easier.

just wait till you reach the bottom of the map thats when the difficulty cureve comes into play once more.

Also does dark souls needs a online connection to use due to that invading greifer system?

If you turn off your internet you won't have to worry about people invading but in my opinion it really takes away from the game.

And I must confess, i've never managed to get far in Dwarf Fortress due to the Ascii and lack of tutorial I mentioned before.

 

[Shadie777]

To be honest, I don't think that Dark Souls will be ported to PC considering that the developers are making Armoured Core at the moment and another developer could ruin the port. But I do think that this petition will help make the next Souls game come to all platforms, which is awesome. We can all scream with frustration while dying

The point I'm making is that this petition should be supported, even if it might fail in getting Dark Souls onto PC

 

[RA92]

Really? That's shocking, I thought PC gamers didn't like Asian games as a majority.

Speaking of which, just like PC gamers don't like Asia, Asia does not like PC gamers. Which is probably why you're never going to get it no matter how hard you try. %90 of Japanese games do not make it to the PC and when they do it is almost always an inferior port. Because aside from doujin creators(who don't have a choice, really), Japan does not like the PC platform.

It's surprising to see PC gamers clamoring for a non-Western game. But I doubt it's going to help.

Asia doesn't like PC gamers... does not compute. :/ You do understand that one of the biggest market for MMOs is China, which is in Asia, and competitive RTS scene is the strongest in South Korea, which is also in Asia? Japan isn't the entirety of Asia, y'know...

And why wouldn't it help? Yeah, the PC was an untapped platform in Japan for a while, but recently Japanese publishers like Sega and Capcom have been making plenty of PC ports of the latest iterations of previously console exclusive franchises (Dead Rising, Resident Evil, Sonic, DMC, Street Fighter, Silent Hill, etc). If there's a market, they'll certainly publish.

Personally, I'm quite tired of Western fantasy medieval settings, and I'm kinda curious about a Japanese take on that trope. It's been interesting as far as I've seen.

 

[viranimus]

Given that the games online capabilities automatically make it required for it to be online,

Wow.. that is incredibly poorly worded because it makes it sound as if you are implying that because it has online capabilities its required that you use them and it would not be possible to play it offline at all, or that anyone would conceive doing such a thing.

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Heres my thing. I would LOVE a PC version. (was not fond of the excessive compression on my PS3 to allow for the game to be ported to the 360) Given that Demon's Souls had no DLC, and seemingly there is no plans for DLC, then porting it to PC would be a very important thing for the franchise specifically for mods. Even if the level of tools granted equal out to a neutered level of modding on par with making Left 4 dead campaigns (IE Zone layout, Mob placement, but keeping things like weapons/skills/magic offlimits). Another VERY important concept here is that potentially, it would allow very industrious modders to do something the franchise has yet to do, and thats Narrative expansion and exposition. I get they dont want to put the focus on the story, but if nothing else give players the ability to give it a story, even if the story is non canon and has no bearing on the franchise.

(Side note: What I would not give for a game to be developed that used the Souls gameplay mechanics as a template specifically for the purpose of being modded, so as it could act almost akin to a 3d version of a table top game whereas DMs craft the story/scenarios for players to play. In essence turning perhaps the strongest possible RPG gameplay foundation as a platform to allow for players to create narrative development as freely as a player in minecraft can freely craft architectural development.)

Either expand the narrative yourself via DLC which I know I would gladly buy, Or give the community the ability to do so, which even despite preordering the PS3 version I would gladly buy a second copy for PC just for the ability (for either quite frankly)

 

[Kae]

Given that the games online capabilities automatically make it required for it to be online,

Wow.. that is incredibly poorly worded because it makes it sound as if you are implying that because it has online capabilities its required that you use them and it would not be possible to play it offline at all, or that anyone would conceive doing such a thing.

*sigh* It's the second time I've done that in this week, I guess I'll just stop talking about DRM and piracy in generals, as it seems that every time I do so I end up saying something I don't really mean, just ignore me.

 

[DaHero]

As I have stated before, if it has Mods, I won't buy it. If it doesn't, I will buy it again to play it on my laptop.

wat. If it has mods you won't buy it and if it doesn't you'll buy it again...?

Without going into it again, I will say this. Dark Souls doesn't support it self to mods. It is tightly crafted, the way the online works, to the world. Everything should be kept the way it was original created.

I don't see how being able to support mods would make the game any worse. I can see your train of thought but mods are completely optional. You can still play the game vanilla. No one's going to force you to download this mod or that.

Because of how the game works. The online doesn't support it. What people fail to understand is that this will BE A PORT. They will not overhaul the whole multiplayer system so then a couple of people could mod.

Adding a single player mode would be beyond easy. People play Dark Souls without an internet connection on the PS3 I'm sure.

 

[ResonanceSD]

"Gamers Demand"

Nice. Not screaming out "entitled userbase" at all. Slightly mitigated of course, by the fact that some of these people will actually buy the game rather than pirate it. Hopefully.

And remember kids, as a port, it will most likely (if it gets made) lose a lot of functionality that makes it fun on consoles. I'm thinking "Bully: Scholarship Edition" as a prime example of how this happens.

 

[soes757]

I used to think online petitions like this were meaningless... then Project Rainfall happened...

Exactly my feelings, I hope if we demand this they'll bring it to pc, if there are 30k willing to buy it already.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Asia does not like PC gamers

Japan is not Asia.

Just take one look at Seoul South Korea, which is the Mecca of PC gaming.

 

[soes757]

Asia does not like PC gamers

Japan is not Asia.

Just take one look at Seoul South Korea, which is the Mecca of PC gaming.

Japan is not Asia?
what?
What grade are you in?

 

[viranimus]

*sigh* It's the second time I've done that in this week, I guess I'll just stop talking about DRM and piracy in generals, as it seems that every time I do so I end up saying something I don't really mean, just ignore me.

Na, dont get me wrong. I get your point about it and your not off base. However if youve been on this forum long enough to write over 1000 posts, then youve certainly been exposed to people who would misconstrue what you say because they purposely chose to stop reading after they read something that they disagreed with, much less reading the rest of the sentence beyond the comma. So the wording is something that could easily be misread to mean something you never intended.

Sorry if I came off coarse, which I clearly did. It wasnt my intention.

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Also... I do not get this argument of its online capabilities prevent mods. I mean last I checked damn near every PC release that offers moddability implements it as a separated entity from the main game. If it is separate then there is no fear of manipulation of the main game as long as you block moddable content from accessing the games primary server hub. Its literally as complex as writing a command line verifying what content is being accessed and toggling a box to either allow/disallow access. Though I love how people all too often view developers as Gods that a simple flick of a wrist can complete or undo creation and that action is a miracle that mere mortals may never hope to comprehend.

 

[AJax_21]

Asia does not like PC gamers

Japan is not Asia.

Just take one look at Seoul South Korea, which is the Mecca of PC gaming.

Japan is not Asia?
what?
What grade are you in?

I think he meant state of PC gaming in Japan =/= PC gaming in all of asia. He's actually quite right.

 

[Lunar Templar]

sign!! sign you fools!!

T-T i wanna play this, and this would be WAY cheaper then buying a PS3 again

 

[Frostbite3789]

As I have stated before, if it has Mods, I won't buy it. If it doesn't, I will buy it again to play it on my laptop.

wat. If it has mods you won't buy it and if it doesn't you'll buy it again...?

Without going into it again, I will say this. Dark Souls doesn't support it self to mods. It is tightly crafted, the way the online works, to the world. Everything should be kept the way it was original created.

I don't see how being able to support mods would make the game any worse. I can see your train of thought but mods are completely optional. You can still play the game vanilla. No one's going to force you to download this mod or that.

Because of how the game works. The online doesn't support it. What people fail to understand is that this will BE A PORT. They will not overhaul the whole multiplayer system so then a couple of people could mod.

Demon's Souls had offline play. It has nothing to do with overhauling. It has to do with online and offline play.

 

[LilithSlave]

Excuse me, Japan, which an Asian country, and the biggest producer of video games in Asia. The companies of which do not seem to like the PC platform.

The majority of games out of Asia are console exclusives, though. And the majority of PC games are made by Westerners. And the majority of PC gamers I've come across I wouldn't exactly call... enthusiasts of Asian video games, Japan or otherwise. Which is what has left me quite shocked out this whole thing.

I'd love to be proven wrong, though, and see things change. I certainly support this if it's possible, it would certainly show that a Japanese game that is not an MMORPG can be successful on the PC platform.

 

[Mr Companion]

Its weird, Japanese game devs are so out of touch with the western market people need to work together to convince a COMPANY they want our money. Its like seeing junkies trying to convince a dealer to share, telling him how much they like crack and really want to have some too if only he would let them.

I know there has to be enough of an audience for it to be worth their while but a brief look at steam and the rampant success of deep RPG's on PC should have them giddy with greed surely?