Gay Zombie Film Banned, Screened Anyway, Destroyed

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chinomareno said:
ShenCS said:
Necrophilia is illegal and also generally considered too grotesque to be art. It shouldn't have been destroyed, just confiscated and fined, but hey, they didn't destroy it.
Ironically, the exact same comment can be made about the Twilight saga.
So is murder and rape but they are perfectly legal to depict in film. Unless it's snuff, which is filming a real crime for profit then it should be fine. The government has no place policing what we think.
Murder and rape could be argued as delving into the darker yet natural, if primeval, parts of the human mind. Necrophillia is wholly unnatural and attributed to mental illness. Talking about it is one thing, but to visually display it as entertainment and call it "art" is quite the other. The government has every right to attempt to steer you away from being deviant, it's part of trying to maintain law and order.
Supporting crap like this doesn't make you some sort of revolutionary, fighting the man and living the American dream - rules and standards exist for a reason. This isn't advancing society in the slightest.

Edit: The above is entirely my opinion, take it as you will.
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
And this is why the channel tunnel must be filled in!
Your grasp on geography is truly a wonder to behold.
Well, he's a French porn star! They mustn't be allowed access to our womenfolk!....Wait a minute...to our menfolk! Move aside boys, that tunnel's getting sealed now!
 

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Sounds like someone's trying to compete with A Serbian Film

2733 said:
this breaks both my heart and mind, I'm surprised I survived
Well, next time perhaps you should try breaking your neck too then.
Gah! Don't mention that film! Heathen! It was quite sick... although my friend REALLY enjoyed it.
Wait... so you're saying there are people who actually saw that film?
 

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MelasZepheos said:
I hate to pull this card out so soon but there have been other governments in history who destroyed cultural works.

I may respect the Australian government's refusal to classify it, but you don't destroy culture, on any medium. If they had been burning books there would be Nazi comparisons flying all over the place.
What about child pornography? Anyone who has it in their posession is arrested in most countries...

What exactly do you think happens to it afterwards though?

You might find that a bad comparison, but you do have to wonder at what point it becomes OK to destroy something.

I don't think it is a good idea to destroy anything, but when something will get you arrested just for having it, obviously it's not actually possible to do anything other than destroy it.

Sucks to be the creator of anything that gets banned. -_-
 
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Fetzenfisch said:
its more like a matter for this guys

Uhmmm...actually it's the reverse of their job. Those Firemen want you to watch TV and not read books. They're actually quite happy with you watching porn.
 

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ShenCS said:
chinomareno said:
ShenCS said:
Necrophilia is illegal and also generally considered too grotesque to be art. It shouldn't have been destroyed, just confiscated and fined, but hey, they didn't destroy it.
Ironically, the exact same comment can be made about the Twilight saga.
So is murder and rape but they are perfectly legal to depict in film. Unless it's snuff, which is filming a real crime for profit then it should be fine. The government has no place policing what we think.
Murder and rape could be argued as delving into the darker yet natural, if primeval, parts of the human mind. Necrophillia is wholly unnatural and attributed to mental illness. Talking about it is one thing, but to visually display it as entertainment and call it "art" is quite the other. The government has every right to attempt to steer you away from being deviant, it's part of trying to maintain law and order.
Supporting crap like this doesn't make you some sort of revolutionary, fighting the man and living the American dream - rules and standards exist for a reason. This isn't advancing society in the slightest.

Edit: The above is entirely my opinion, take it as you will.
We're starting to delve into "definitions I just made up" territory, and that's especially dangerous when we're talking putting boundaries on expression and art.
"Pornography" and "obscenity" have legal definitions, however fluid they can be, but it's a guide to what we will not tolerate as a society. Not what simply makes us feel queasy when we read a one-line synopsis of it.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Fetzenfisch said:
its more like a matter for this guys

Uhmmm...actually it's the reverse of their job. Those Firemen want you to watch TV and not read books. They're actually quite happy with you watching porn.
But they'll stop you getting the book of the film. Who knows what literary wonders we may miss out on.
 
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CrystalShadow said:
MelasZepheos said:
I hate to pull this card out so soon but there have been other governments in history who destroyed cultural works.

I may respect the Australian government's refusal to classify it, but you don't destroy culture, on any medium. If they had been burning books there would be Nazi comparisons flying all over the place.
What about child pornography? Anyone who has it in their posession is arrested in most countries...

What exactly do you think happens to it afterwards though?

You might find that a bad comparison, but you do have to wonder at what point it becomes OK to destroy something.

I don't think it is a good idea to destroy anything, but when something will get you arrested just for having it, obviously it's not actually possible to do anything other than destroy it.

Sucks to be the creator of anything that gets banned. -_-
Maybe it's just my bias but I don't consider child porn to be culture in quite the same way I consider films like this to be culture.

Which is not to say I think all child pornography should be destroyed (this is a complicated argument I will have no chance of rendering fully on this website). In short, in the same way that we keep museums and remembrances of what the Nazis did in World War II, and also keep copies of their propaganda and culture around, I view child pornography much the same way. It's not pretty, but it's a part of what human society has to offer, and sweeping it under a rug and pretending it doesn't exist shows a weakness in confronting the medium.

I don't think child pornography should be condemned without understanding. I think it needs to be confronted for what it is and what it represents before we start attacking. (This is where my reasoning gets deeply into philosophy and politics so I'll just leave that argument where it is because I really don't want to kick off a flame war.)
 

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Anyone thought of a Evil Dead movie of Ash blasting zombies and sees two doing it and he shoots himself in the head or joins in....
 

Mr.France

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What has been read... cannot be unread...

Now seriously, this film is sick, but there are plenty of other sick films that are considered art, like Salò or the 120 Days of Sodom (which I haven't watched, but want to) to name one.
I might even have watched it, even if only to satisfy my sick curiosity (I'm not homossexual nor necrophiliac, but I try not to have prejudices).

I think it was Voltaire who said "I might not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right of saying it".
 

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Necromancer1991 said:
A shock film get banned in Austrailia, OMG STOP THE PRESSES! But really though the movie sound more like pretentious garbage than anything else.
Here is an idea, read the whole fucking article.
 

chinomareno

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ShenCS said:
chinomareno said:
ShenCS said:
Necrophilia is illegal and also generally considered too grotesque to be art. It shouldn't have been destroyed, just confiscated and fined, but hey, they didn't destroy it.
Ironically, the exact same comment can be made about the Twilight saga.
So is murder and rape but they are perfectly legal to depict in film. Unless it's snuff, which is filming a real crime for profit then it should be fine. The government has no place policing what we think.
Murder and rape could be argued as delving into the darker yet natural, if primeval, parts of the human mind. Necrophillia is wholly unnatural and attributed to mental illness. Talking about it is one thing, but to visually display it as entertainment and call it "art" is quite the other. The government has every right to attempt to steer you away from being deviant, it's part of trying to maintain law and order.
Supporting crap like this doesn't make you some sort of revolutionary, fighting the man and living the American dream - rules and standards exist for a reason. This isn't advancing society in the slightest.

Edit: The above is entirely my opinion, take it as you will.
So murder and rape is not a sign of deviancy? (Or as you said could be argued.)

It's not about defending necrophilia but the fact that any concept no matter how disagreeable should be able to expressed and depicted without this nonsense. You position isn't very consistent, what you or the general population considers art is entirely subjective, we don't need a censorship on whim. Nor is it an issue of law and order which is the most condescending argument, what threat does this pose to the state? There's no reason to think films turn people into gay necrophiliacs.

I don't think opposing banned speech makes me anti-statist, I thought freedom of speech and thought was common law...
 

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thefrizzlefry said:
Is Australia trying to look America look better by comparison? Like, seriously, it's as if they're making a concerted effort to allow the Americans to go "Well, we may have elected people like Rand Paul and Michelle Bachmann to public office, but at least our government isn't tyrannical and fewer of our animals are trying to have us for lunch!"
Also: Am I the only one here that WANTS to see that movie??
Nope, I have to say, I'm curious enough that I want to see this film as well. This IS absolutely the most insane shit I've heard in months but I wish I knew the director, star, or...anyone involved, because this amount of creativity makes for some seriously interesting company! (This may be feasible given that I live in Canada)
 

sagacious

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wut?

OT: huh?

P.S. Hmm... I would think a movie like that would have limited appeal to say the least, but banning it all together seems wrong. It's a slippery slope. Next the'll be banning die-hard for gratuitous bare-foot shattered glass walking. Or Avatar for having furries.
 

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I hope he kept a copy, and spreads it over the internet...

Just as a method to rub salt in Austrailsa's anti-exporession's gov's wounds.