Gearbox Wants Female Duke Nukem Game

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

If Duke Nukem were female then there would be a "Capture the Hunk" gameplay mod and there would be no complaints about sexism

 

[DementedSheep]

So if Duke Nukem is an overy masculine person, will the female constrast, be extremly feminine?

Sure.
Haven't you ever known an extremely feminine girl who was really into herself? They aint too hard to find.

I would play Dutchess Nukem but I think if they really made it like that, the feminists would complain even more. A self centered woman who is never wrong and never has a hair out of place wouldn't exactly appease feminists.

I agree. Part of the problem seems to be allot of the people complaining don't seem to realise (or a ignore in favour of having something to ***** at)that Duke is meant to be an overblown stereotype. If they make the stereotypical female, especially like what they are suggesting where she has an army of men it will just piss allot them off more for making a woman the stereotype despite the fact that it is exactly what Duke is for the men. But you will never have everyone happy, I have heard complaints that Alyx Vance?s jeans where to tight so people can complain about anything.

Personally I am female and naturally I want equal rights for woman so I guess that makes me a feminist. But Duke Nukem does not offend me and I find capture the babe hilarious, as dose my mother and many of my female friends. Some think it?s stupid and immature (which it is) but the only one of my friends who actually finds it offensive and is hung up over the slap is a guy. I suppose if you just looked at a list of features and had never saw the game itself you could misinterpret what it was.

Gearbox Wants Female Duke Nukem Game
Daisy Nukem, if you will, would likely be completely different than her male counterpart. While the stereotypical male wants to get right into the action and kick some ass, the stereotypical female might have a stable of beefcakes do her fighting for her, until they all get wiped out and she has to step in to take care of business. She'd probably also find a way to be president of the world or something. Any other ideas?

So a caricature of the Femme fatale? Hell yeah I would play that.but don?t call her daisy. Female Duke = Duchess and that sounds much better.

 

[mxfox408]

I sense a failure in the making if he was serious about a female version. Lolz it just would not be as funny as duke, anyone else feel the same? It just seems like heard this argument before example: 4th grade boy saying, im king of the world and im the best and everyone bow before me, 4th grade girl takes him serious and says thats not fair i can be queen and everyone will bow before me too. Lol not a good example but this debate is getting nowhere, i dont hear guys whining about every little thing a women says or does to men, me personally i can care less what anyone thinks i just ignore thier stupid statements or laugh at how stupid those statement or actions they are. Getting offended is reserved for those that are unable to deal with thier own emotions.

 

[somethingprofound]

So umm, female duke in my mind is essentially Tank Girl?
and about sexism; to (mis)quote someone or other 'a woman gets hurt it's abuse, a man gets hurt it's comedy...' genders are different, deal with it.

 

[mxfox408]

If Duke Nukem were female then there would be a "Capture the Hunk" gameplay mod and there would be no complaints about sexism

So true, i dont think ive seen men knitpick as much as women do especially at other media that depict men as big and dumb with wife stand there giving him that how can you be so dumb look.

 

[Knife-28]

So if Duke Nukem is an overy masculine person, will the female constrast, be extremly feminine?

So giant.... eyes? And impossible proportions?

Hopefully the oneliners would stay.

Probibly huge....tracts of land.....
>.>
<.<

 

[EmpressZombiKitty]

I would like to point to two characters that were female and kicked ET ass to save others:

- Ellen Ripley from the Alien movies (and games and comics and books)
- Julie from the Heavy Metal FAKK2 movie (and games and comics)

Though it wasn't Aliens, I would like to Add Sarah Connor (more from) Terminator 2, to that list. She is Badass.

I would also like to say, I am on board gearbox! I will be buying Duke, and I have High Hopes for this Daisy or Duchess character.

I want a harem of half-naked men to do my bidding. Make me that game, Gearbox. Make me that game.

 

[MGlBlaze]

Ain't Bayonetta the female Duke Nukem?

I guess so, and people pointed out that she was oversexualised.

*looks at picture of Duke*

Um... why is it that no one's complained about Duke being oversexualised?

Double standards, really.

 

[Realitycrash]

Ain't Bayonetta the female Duke Nukem?

She's the female Dante. Although I suppose Dante could be called the Japanese Nukem. Hmm... That would be one HELL of a crossover game.

Lo Wang is the Japanese Duke Nukem -.-

Learn your history! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo_Wang

 

[conflictofinterests]

I think that Gearbox is on to something. The problem is if anyone complained they'd say that she isn't being protrayed as a proper woman and is showing negative protrayals of women.

Yeah, pretty much. That's why we can't make militant feminists happy. Liiiiiiitle bit of hypocrisy there. #understatement

I like this Gearbox guy. I'd definitely play a game with a female Nukem. And I might give Duke a second chance too.

 

[conflictofinterests]

So if Duke Nukem is an overy masculine person, will the female constrast, be extremly feminine?

So giant.... eyes? And impossible proportions?

Hopefully the oneliners would stay.

Probibly huge....tracts of land.....
>.>
<.<

You just won 3 internet points for the Monty Python reference. x3

Anyways, are we talking extremely feminine from a man's point of view or from a woman's point of view? Because I think they might be two different things... Then again, I may be REEEEEAAAALLLLYYY overthinking this.

 

[MacGuges]

"He is ego-centric and everything in his world revolves around him," he continued. "And women can offer him something different than men can. So if, to Duke, women are less than him, it's not because they're women, it's just because they're not him."

Pitchford points out how Duke actually puts himself "at great risk" to make sure women are safe, which is the premise of Duke Nukem Forever.

...So it's not sexist because, in the end, he whisks the women off their feet from horseback and rides into the sunset?

If Duke was shown being an ass, and the other characters treating him like he was an ass, I'd be all for that. If he saved a woman's life, hinted he wanted her to give him 'something' because he saved her, and she turned around and call called him an ass and stormed off, then I'd happily say the game is mocking Duke and that's all fine.

However, I'm pretty sure the formula will go: Woman in danger, Duke saves women, woman thanks Duke by getting on her knees, Duke finds another women in danger, Duke saves women, etc, etc.

Yeah, I'm getting that impression too, that the game won't be an adventure featuring a sexist hero but a sexist fantasy for blinkered guys. Half of this forum has been about how awesome their sexy girl Nukem would be, and the other half about how the awful feminists would never appreciate their good intentions.

 

[conflictofinterests]

"He is ego-centric and everything in his world revolves around him," he continued. "And women can offer him something different than men can. So if, to Duke, women are less than him, it's not because they're women, it's just because they're not him."

Pitchford points out how Duke actually puts himself "at great risk" to make sure women are safe, which is the premise of Duke Nukem Forever.

...So it's not sexist because, in the end, he whisks the women off their feet from horseback and rides into the sunset?

If Duke was shown being an ass, and the other characters treating him like he was an ass, I'd be all for that. If he saved a woman's life, hinted he wanted her to give him 'something' because he saved her, and she turned around and call called him an ass and stormed off, then I'd happily say the game is mocking Duke and that's all fine.

However, I'm pretty sure the formula will go: Woman in danger, Duke saves women, woman thanks Duke by getting on her knees, Duke finds another women in danger, Duke saves women, etc, etc.

Yeah, I'm getting that impression too, that the game won't be an adventure featuring a sexist hero but a sexist fantasy for blinkered guys. Half of this forum has been about how awesome their sexy girl Nukem would be, and the other half about how the awful feminists would never appreciate their good intentions.

Meh. I think it boils down to the fact that Duke IS a joke, and as far as I have seen, it's easy to be ok with a man being a joke, and nigh impossible to be ok with a woman being a joke. Make of that what you will.

EDIT: I think the game is more told from the point of view of Duke, and whatever fantasy world his perverted little mind lives in. Yeah, what AngloDoom said would be very applicable if this were "reality" in the game world, where people aren't cardboard cut-outs and nondescript cannon-fodder, but as it stands, what I get from it is you're playing as a mildly deranged man witnessing the world as that mildly deranged man might.

 

[weker]

Ain't Bayonetta the female Duke Nukem?

I guess so, and people pointed out that she was oversexualised.

*looks at picture of Duke*

Um... why is it that no one's complained about Duke being oversexualised?

Because he is a heterosexual man ofc

 

[miraclefilms]

I don´t get why we´re suddenly apologizing for Duke´s personality. He´s not a real person, and clearly not a character meant to be taken as a role model by children, like Tony Montana ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB9soqceQA ).

The thing is, making all characters vanilla, IMHO, is a bit dangerous. Negating the existence of this people, with this controversial points of view, solves nothing. Instead, when impressionable people are exposed to real people with controversial points of view, points of view that they´ve never heard... Well, that´s fascinating. That´s seductive.

Trying to cover up the ugliness in human nature, will only lead to weak minds that will be taken by surprise when the come.

 

[Partezan]

Feminists assume that we don't have mothers, sisters, grannies, wives, girlfriends and daughters that we love and care about. It's because I love them that I tell feminists to go fuck themselves

 

[Partezan]

i think they need to make a feminist monster character named a c.u.n.t

 

[MacGuges]

"He is ego-centric and everything in his world revolves around him," he continued. "And women can offer him something different than men can. So if, to Duke, women are less than him, it's not because they're women, it's just because they're not him."

Pitchford points out how Duke actually puts himself "at great risk" to make sure women are safe, which is the premise of Duke Nukem Forever.

...So it's not sexist because, in the end, he whisks the women off their feet from horseback and rides into the sunset?

If Duke was shown being an ass, and the other characters treating him like he was an ass, I'd be all for that. If he saved a woman's life, hinted he wanted her to give him 'something' because he saved her, and she turned around and call called him an ass and stormed off, then I'd happily say the game is mocking Duke and that's all fine.

However, I'm pretty sure the formula will go: Woman in danger, Duke saves women, woman thanks Duke by getting on her knees, Duke finds another women in danger, Duke saves women, etc, etc.

Yeah, I'm getting that impression too, that the game won't be an adventure featuring a sexist hero but a sexist fantasy for blinkered guys. Half of this forum has been about how awesome their sexy girl Nukem would be, and the other half about how the awful feminists would never appreciate their good intentions.

Meh. I think it boils down to the fact that Duke IS a joke, and as far as I have seen, it's easy to be ok with a man being a joke, and nigh impossible to be ok with a woman being a joke. Make of that what you will.

EDIT: I think the game is more told from the point of view of Duke, and whatever fantasy world his perverted little mind lives in. Yeah, what AngloDoom said would be very applicable if this were "reality" in the game world, where people aren't cardboard cut-outs and nondescript cannon-fodder, but as it stands, what I get from it is you're playing as a mildly deranged man witnessing the world as that mildly deranged man might.

Yeah, I understand. That is also how I view the Grand Theft Auto games. But nobody from Rockstar appeared to defend the amoral criminality of their protagonists, so I've become concerned that Gearbox and the game's fans appear to want to identify with Duke, in fact. Pitchfork has actually said that Duke is not misogynist, which is being deliberately obtuse, IMHO.

 

[conflictofinterests]

"He is ego-centric and everything in his world revolves around him," he continued. "And women can offer him something different than men can. So if, to Duke, women are less than him, it's not because they're women, it's just because they're not him."

Pitchford points out how Duke actually puts himself "at great risk" to make sure women are safe, which is the premise of Duke Nukem Forever.

...So it's not sexist because, in the end, he whisks the women off their feet from horseback and rides into the sunset?

If Duke was shown being an ass, and the other characters treating him like he was an ass, I'd be all for that. If he saved a woman's life, hinted he wanted her to give him 'something' because he saved her, and she turned around and call called him an ass and stormed off, then I'd happily say the game is mocking Duke and that's all fine.

However, I'm pretty sure the formula will go: Woman in danger, Duke saves women, woman thanks Duke by getting on her knees, Duke finds another women in danger, Duke saves women, etc, etc.

Yeah, I'm getting that impression too, that the game won't be an adventure featuring a sexist hero but a sexist fantasy for blinkered guys. Half of this forum has been about how awesome their sexy girl Nukem would be, and the other half about how the awful feminists would never appreciate their good intentions.

Meh. I think it boils down to the fact that Duke IS a joke, and as far as I have seen, it's easy to be ok with a man being a joke, and nigh impossible to be ok with a woman being a joke. Make of that what you will.

EDIT: I think the game is more told from the point of view of Duke, and whatever fantasy world his perverted little mind lives in. Yeah, what AngloDoom said would be very applicable if this were "reality" in the game world, where people aren't cardboard cut-outs and nondescript cannon-fodder, but as it stands, what I get from it is you're playing as a mildly deranged man witnessing the world as that mildly deranged man might.

Yeah, I understand. That is also how I view the Grand Theft Auto games. But nobody from Rockstar appeared to defend the amoral criminality of their protagonists, so I've become concerned that Gearbox and the game's fans appear to want to identify with Duke, in fact. Pitchfork has actually said that Duke is not misogynist, which is being deliberately obtuse, IMHO.

That depends on your definition of misogynist, I suppose. Is one a misogynist if one simply has little or no respect for women, or if one has little or no respect for women IN PARTICULAR. I think this Gearbox guy has a good point. Duke has little or no respect for ANYONE that isn't him, and about half of the people that are not him also happen to be women. I might characterize Duke as simply a douche, as opposed to strictly a misogynist.

EDIT: Going by the "someone is prejudiced because they simply have little or no respect for x group of people," Duke is also almost every flavor of racist, agist, and sexuality-ist (is there a better word for this?) under the sun, as well as possessing countless other prejudices which would bar him from EVER getting federal funding were he an institution.

 

[Hiken no Ace]

A female version of Duke Nukem? That's easy, just picture DC's Lobo in a dress