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Its for the infrastructure and technical know how. Not an IP with Angry Bird Mechanics. Butt what do you expect from a bunch of 30-40 year olds who only play AAA with minimal mtx and not someone who plays gacha?
 

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I assume the Angry Birds will be teaming up with the Flickies? After being put in badniks umpteen times, they'd be pretty angry too.
A piece of news significant enough that The Escapist wrote about it:
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While Sega is looking to develop its expertise in live-service mobile games, Rovio wants to expand into the PC and console sphere. Meanwhile, both will share their learnings in expanding their franchises beyond gaming to film, animation, and merchandising.
I would argue that both Rovio and Sega has been very good at merchandising. I remember a language cafe I went to where a woman showed the Sonic the Hedgehog doll she had crocheted and images from wartorn Syria where a kid had a t-shirt with the red Angry Birds-bird on it. That is a wide reach.

I wonder what Rovio hopes to accomplish on consoles. Before Angry Birds they released a ton of mobile games for years with little profit, so I thought that was their niche, since they have lots of experience there. I could see a mobile version of Sonic working since endless runners sounds like an ideal match for the character.
 
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Honestly pisses me off Stephanie is on this kick of respecting the artist and understanding copyright law, when on their storefront the Jimporium she's sell unlicensed Pokemon merch. Its like girl, pot calling the kettle black much?

 
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Honestly pisses me off Stephanie is on this kick of respecting the artist and understanding copyright law, when on their storefront the Jimporium she's sell unlicensed Pokemon merch. Its like girl, pot calling the kettle black much?
So does Sterling and a thousand others on teepublic.com sell a bunch of unlicensed Pokemon merch and other video game/tv/movie properties. I'm not defending her use of it, but if she's not getting in trouble for it, then so are those thousands of the people on said t-shirt site or redbubble.com. another justification in Sterling's case, is that Nintendo's and the Pokemon company are big corpo, and have screwed out the little guy a bunch of times before, so it doesn't count much to her.

Sterling still has a point (she properly compensates artwork or things done for her that she puts in the show). AAA companies have not done this more times than they care count, but plenty of other big corporations from the movie or music industry have done it as well. All I can say is that I'm glad the music industry doesn't have a tight control that used to, and they're still being big babies about it. Hence why we have all those stupid new copyright rules/violations for music when it comes to playing on Twitch or YouTube. Especially twitch. All because either sites are too lazy to go out and actually the defend Fair Use.
 
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So does Sterling and a thousand others on teepublic.com sell a bunch of unlicensed Pokemon merch and other video game/tv/movie properties. I'm not defending her use of it, but if she's not getting in trouble for it, then so are those thousands of the people on said t-shirt site or redbubble.com. another justification in Sterling's case, is that Nintendo's and the Pokemon company are big corpo, and have screwed out the little guy a bunch of times before, so it doesn't count much to her.

Sterling still has a point (she properly compensates artwork or things done for her that she puts in the show). AAA lake companies have done this more times than they care count, but plenty of other big corporations from the movie or music industry have done it as well. All I can say is that I'm glad the music industry doesn't have a tight control that used to, and they're still being big babies about it. Hence why we have all those stupid new copyright rules/violations for music when it comes to playing on Twitch or YouTube. Especially twitch. All because either sites are too lazy to go out and actually the defend Fair Use.
But Sterling is on record, multiple times, even on this website 1.0, that she's 100% okay with stealing from Nintendo and pirating games. It just feels...not disingenuous, because I do believe Stephanie does want artists to be paid for their work. But it leaves a sour taste in the mouth they just steal other people's art and sell it for themselves. Even if a bunch of other people do it, that doesn't make it right. Just that a bunch of people are wrong.
 

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There a difference between appropriating other ppls art while claiming it as your own creation, than just selling printed stuff to fans of whatever art is printed on it, not claiming you created the art. It's like a whole different thing, legally, morally, ethically, mathematically?

Anyway it ain't theft if it from large corporation, it reclamation.
 
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There a difference between appropriating other ppls art while claiming it as your own creation, than just selling printed stuff to fans of whatever art is printed on it, not claiming you created the art. It's like a whole different thing, legally, morally, ethically, mathematically?

Anyway it ain't theft if it from large corporation, it reclamation.
I mean no, not really. Someone designed those Pokemon. It wasn't Stephanie or whatever artist they got to trace the models. Selling someone else's art and not paying them a cut is well, just that. Selling someone else's art and not paying them a cut.
And you can steal from large corporations just fine. Morality of large corporations aside, theft is still theft.
 

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But Sterling is on record, multiple times, even on this website 1.0, that she's 100% okay with stealing from Nintendo and pirating games. It just feels...not disingenuous, because I do believe Stephanie does want artists to be paid for their work. But it leaves a sour taste in the mouth they just steal other people's art and sell it for themselves. Even if a bunch of other people do it, that doesn't make it right. Just that a bunch of people are wrong.
Sterling never said she created the Pokemon art in the first place. Just that she's selling it.

There a difference between appropriating other ppls art while claiming it as your own creation, than just selling printed stuff to fans of whatever art is printed on it, not claiming you created the art. It's like a whole different thing, legally, morally, ethically, mathematically?

Anyway it ain't theft if it from large corporation, it reclamation.
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I mean no, not really. Someone designed those Pokemon. It wasn't Stephanie or whatever artist they got to trace the models. Selling someone else's art and not paying them a cut is well, just that. Selling someone else's art and not paying them a cut.
And you can steal from large corporations just fine. Morality of large corporations aside, theft is still theft.
Ah well if theft is theft then it's probably a gd thing there's no theft going on here.

Also, how far did you really look into this?

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It's fan-art by a credited and linked fan artist. There ain't a problem here. They mentioned multiple times in the past how they value paying these artists fairly also.
 
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Ah well if theft is theft then it's probably a gd thing there's no theft going on here.

Also, how far did you really look into this?

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It's fan-art by a credited and linked fan artist. There ain't a problem here. They mentioned multiple times in the past how they value paying these artists fairly also.
Are you allowed to sell unlicensed fan art of copyrighted material though. Fan art is fine but i dunno if Nintendo can still sue for selling based of intellectual property.

Or maybe it would be classified as bootlegs.

UPDATE: fan art is legal to sell technically because copyright infringement is not a crime. But Nintendo can legally sue for it if they wanted.
 

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Ah well if theft is theft then it's probably a gd thing there's no theft going on here.

Also, how far did you really look into this?

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It's fan-art by a credited and linked fan artist. There ain't a problem here. They mentioned multiple times in the past how they value paying these artists fairly also.
Except for....anyone? Anyone know what went wrong here?
That's right, Nintendo requires a licensing agreement before you're allowed to sell anything based off their IP. You'll pay them either a flat fee or a percentage of sales for each item you sell that uses their IP.
There is literally a page on how to do it: https://www.icsid.org/uncategorized/how-to-get-permission-to-sell-pokemon-licensed-products/

So unfortunately for whatever tracer Stephanie paid to break the copyright...they broke the copyright and Nintendo is well within their rights to sue.

To quote: " You can buy and sell fan art, as long as the copyright holder grants you permission. The sale of fan art is illegal until otherwise. You can sell original anime art however you like, but original anime art doesn’t qualify as fan art. "
 
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Except for....anyone? Anyone know what went wrong here?
That's right, Nintendo requires a licensing agreement before you're allowed to sell anything based off their IP. You'll pay them either a flat fee or a percentage of sales for each item you sell that uses their IP.
There is literally a page on how to do it: https://www.icsid.org/uncategorized/how-to-get-permission-to-sell-pokemon-licensed-products/

So unfortunately for whatever tracer Stephanie paid to break the copyright...they broke the copyright and Nintendo is well within their rights to sue.

To quote: " You can buy and sell fan art, as long as the copyright holder grants you permission. The sale of fan art is illegal until otherwise. You can sell original anime art however you like, but original anime art doesn’t qualify as fan art. "
Well...then Nintendo, Capcom, Microsoft, Koei Tecmo, and many others have lots of people to go after, if they even bother to care.
 

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God, Activision just loves to 1up other companies and themselves when it comes to anti-consumer practices, don't they?
Is anyone surprised by this? Call of Duty is basically a Moebius strip of releasing overpowered items, making mad cash from sales for a week, and then "discovering" the issues and swinging the nerf bat like Casey at the third pitch. Case in point: The Roze skin, which totally wasn't overpowered by being nearly invisible in any sort of dark area.

 

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God, Activision just loves to 1up other companies and themselves when it comes to anti-consumer practices, don't they?
Is anyone surprised by this? Call of Duty is basically a Moebius strip of releasing overpowered items, making mad cash from sales for a week, and then "discovering" the issues and swinging the nerf bat like Casey at the third pitch. Case in point: The Roze skin, which totally wasn't overpowered by being nearly invisible in any sort of dark area.

Fuck COD and Activision. Neither of you have done anything positive for the gaming industry for over a decade. You're not patriots to your country for making, nor others for playing this game either. You've been riding that shit since the days of WWII shooters, you can fuck off extra hard for that as well.
 
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I could see a mobile version of Sonic working since endless runners sounds like an ideal match for the character.
Sonic's already got at least two endless runners (Sonic Dash 1 & 2). Can't really recommend either of them.

Sonic Runners Adventure is pretty neat though, even if it's not really an endless runner though it has endless runner elements.