GOG Says DRM Drives Gamers to Piracy

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tzimize said:
I am fully on board with the guy. I pre-ordered my Witcher 2 from GoG. First pre-order I've done since...maybe forever in my soon to be 29 year old life.
Indeed, I first pre-ordered my Witcher 2 from play.com but then, as soon as I saw the GOG deal, I cancelled it and pre-ordered the GOG version instead.
 

Gindil

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mew4ever23 said:
I think that's a big part of the reason Spore was pirated as much as it was. Its DRM was just ridiculous.
I think one of EA's claims was that it was unbreakable DRM.

Spore was actually one of the most pirated games of all time before the official release date, so that does kind of skew the numbers a bit.
Sounds like they broke a maxim there:

Link [http://www.ne.anl.gov/capabilities/vat/seals/maxims.html]

It's just funny that EA had to learn the hard way by trying to force DRM on people.
 

Astalano

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Day 1 buy for me. This is the way to market a game to the gaming community. This is the forward thinking attitude that propels people to greatness in this Information Age.

Good luck Cevat. You have my preorder.
 

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WaaghPowa said:
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Covarr said:
Trust me guys, I'm well aware that Steam is a much better example of DRM than most recent attempts at it. I was just conveying the point that it's not necessarily the issue since there are good examples of it. I have over 120 games on my list, pretty sure I love the damn thing :p
Oh you bugger, I'm on 115 including shortcuts and mods, so close.

And I wasn't proving you wrong, I just needed somewhere to start
 

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mew4ever23 said:
I think that's a big part of the reason Spore was pirated as much as it was. Its DRM was just ridiculous.
Also it blew balls and I have regretted that purchase for years .
 

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Oh you bugger, I'm on 115 including shortcuts and mods, so close.

And I wasn't proving you wrong, I just needed somewhere to start
I'll correct myself, 125 games NOT including shortcuts from non steamworks titles. Now I feel crazy.
 

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As an example, i bought both Batman: Arkham ASylum and Bioshock 2, even after having bought the games i still cracked them, simply because it's so much easier and more conveniant.
DRM is just stupid, well, that goes without saying as i think 99% of gamers are against it.
 

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I bought a copy of The Witcher: Enhanced Edition about 2 years ago or so, but misplaced my box when I moved. I didn't like it much back then, but I've considered giving it another chance. Permission to pirate, Mr. Kukawski? :(
 

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Pirating because of DRM seems more like an excuse to me. I did crack some of the games i bought that had annoying drm's, mostly the ones that required the cd's to be inside the cd-rom for no apparent reason. DRM's are useless in the first place, cracked versions appear on the net few days after the official release, sometimes even before the release date, all that its good for is pissing off paying customers.
 

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I agree completely.I have bought games and then preceded to crack them because of their obnoxious DRM *cough* Ass Creed *cough*.While my friend lost save files,progress because of a dropped connection,etc.They really are hurting the people who are trying to be loyal customers by trying to prevent the inevitable.Someone will always find a way,it's what they live for.
 

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godofallu said:
I would pre order the Witcher 2 from them right now if my PC could run it on high, but it can't.
Get a GOG account and click the button. [http://www.gog.com/en/page/tw2v3] Bob's your uncle: you've just pre-ordered The Witcher 2 direct from CD Projekt.
 

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Keith K said:
I would say DRM does nothing to prevent piracy. I have my doubts that anyone who pirates because of DRM was ever likely to pay for it in the first place.
My friend bought the original Prince of Persia: Forgotten Sands. Then, when the Ubi servers were still down many, many days after the release, he just pirated it without a a shame, and I couldn't really blame him for that.

Another example - when Half Life 2 hit the shelves in 2004, not that many people had an internet in their homes, at least in Poland. So I wasn't even a little bit surprised, when so many of my friends (even those who already saved the money to buy the original) looked for an 'alternative way' to play it without Steam.

So as you can see - yeah it happens.

Thanks to those example above - I agree with this statement. Pirate will just wait for a crack on the internet, then shamelessly download it and won't have to deal with any problems. It is the legit consumer, who'll have to deal with all the bullcrap, the developer came up with to protect it from piracy. Also it never worked, and probably never will.
 

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True to a point. Pirates will pirate no matter what, but DRM is extremely annoying to legit gamers and can drive them if it's annoying enough.
 

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We'll see... If Witcher 2 becomes the most pirated game of 2011 then it's obvious that DRM isn't the main factor for piracy.

In all honesty, pirates will pirate regardless of DRM or not. To them, it's free stuff and the DRM is just another reason to pirate. Sure some bitter gamers might turn to piracy but actual pirates won't give a damn about whether a studio has DRM or not. NO DRM = No effect on a pirate's intention.

The only thing preventing the game from being pirated to death is the fact that it's graphically intensive which limits the number of pirates that can run it. But that's hardly any comfort.
 

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Delusibeta said:
godofallu said:
I would pre order the Witcher 2 from them right now if my PC could run it on high, but it can't.
Get a GOG account and click the button. [http://www.gog.com/en/page/tw2v3] Bob's your uncle: you've just pre-ordered The Witcher 2 direct from CD Projekt.
My computer can't run it was the problem heh.
 

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I bought nearly all my games from GOG, one from Stream, and a game pack from TellTale(I bought the DVD of Sam and Max: season one at E or all back in 07).

I stopped buying games from TellTale because the DRM in they used made "the Whispered World" utterly unplayable. The only way around it was to crack the DRM and felt it was too much a bother so I just won't give them any of my money.

Steam I only used because I got a free game download coupon at PAXEAST 2011, thanks Ginger you are the best, and have had no issues other than my laptop is too old to play any of the games except the Genesis emulations.
 

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I believe PC games should do what valve does... make great product supported by great service.

By buying games with steamworks I get automatic updates, achievements, anti cheat, unlimited times I can download the game and so on. Seriously, why would I pirate game like Left4dead or MW2 if I will not be able to get full experience from it?
 

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Supernova2000 said:
tzimize said:
I am fully on board with the guy. I pre-ordered my Witcher 2 from GoG. First pre-order I've done since...maybe forever in my soon to be 29 year old life.
Indeed, I first pre-ordered my Witcher 2 from play.com but then, as soon as I saw the GOG deal, I cancelled it and pre-ordered the GOG version instead.
The only reason I didn't pre-order myself a copy from them is that I want the physical goodies in the collector's edition box, thus necessitating a retail box copy (the digital equivalents they bundle in place of those physical objects are all well and good, but none of them are a bust of Geralt I can put on my shelf, now are they?).
 

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ahh Gog my only other digital site i buy from becides steam


OT: The whole no DRM is one reason why I like there services and they got lots of awsome games :3