Gogogic CEO Says Single-Player is a "Gimmick"

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Groenteman

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In other news: Homeless man says keyboards are "toiletpaper!"

Aka: this man has no credibility in the area of his claims. If he does not understand the value of single player, hes a lousy developer.
 

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Hope he enjoys the 15 minutes of fame he gets from saying this mildly outrageous thing we have heard said before by other people who want attention.
 

ZippyDSMlee

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In a Sense it is as the content is watered down,over simplified. Has limited mostly linear content and is over priced(Hello Dishonored). MP/Online is in the same boat just most gamers are to busy fragging each other or playing as girls to give a damn.
 

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BiscuitWheels said:
JesterRaiin said:
Antonsson said. "The first games were designed as multiplayer experiences,
Multiplayer.
Right.
Riiiiiiiiiiiight.


Yeah, because people weren't playing tag or catch since the freaking Stone Age. Games existed before the Atari 2600, kids.

The amount of vitriol in this thread is astounding. And, for the most part, what this dude said was true. Games where originally invented as a social experience. Single player games are really just you playing against the computer instead of another human player out of necessity.
Those games also didn't use a computer are you gonna argue video games are just a fad? The guys whole argument is flawed, how can anyone take the notion of how it started as the only way it should stay seriously?
 

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Who is this social game developping person that hasn't heard of Burnout 3, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 2, Bioshock, Driver San Francisco, Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Mass Effect 2, Batman Arkham City, Batman Arkham Asylum, Tetris, Super Mario, Final Fantasy, Diablo II, Torchlight 2, Burnout Paradise, Dishonored, Castlevania Symphony Of The Night, Psychonauts, Brutal Legend, Metal Gear Solid, God Of War, Portal, Devil May Cry, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro The Dragon, Rayman, Metroid Prime, Super Metroid, The Legend Of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Silent Hill 2, Amnesia The Dark Descent, Persona 4, Journey, Shadow Of The Colossus, Ico, Jak And Daxter, Need For Speed Underground, Need For Speed Most Wanted ?
 

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Bernzz said:
Yeah okay. Have fun convincing Bethesda that single player is a gimmick and nothing more.
You mean the company that is taking their historically single player franchise and making an MMO out of it?
 

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I think he might have a point, even if he doesn't realize it. Think about it, all AI is is another person that has been made to play with. Almost every single player game has some sort of AI or something that represents another person to play with.
 

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Well then, screw you, too.
I bet he hates it when people read books on their own, also.

webepoop said:
I think he might have a point, even if he doesn't realize it. Think about it, all AI is is another person that has been made to play with. Almost every single player game has some sort of AI or something that represents another person to play with.
More often than not, it represents another person or persons to play against.
 

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Yeah... right...

The thing is... most people that play MP games are usually asshole that I dont care to associate with. Now, of course not all MP gamers are assholes, Ive played games with other people often enough to know this. But likewise, Ive played enough mp games to know that yes, there are assholes that play these games, and make my experience of playing these games worse for it.

Of... wait, he makes social games... well fuck his opinion all the same.
 

IamLEAM1983

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Antonsson fails to realize that for most people, gaming is a distraction. It's hard to be distracted when you're stuck with guys who take what is very much entertainment so seriously as to throw fits when you deny them a kill.

I play single-player mostly to avoid that kind of annoyance. I'd much rather share stories about my playthrough of Game X than endure joining a game that's crawling with pubbers I don't know from Adam.

The one exception is when I play with very good friends I've known for years on end. I don't mind multiplayer in this case, because we'll just laugh at each other's failures and help one another out.
 

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bafrali said:
Single player gives you a consistant and immersive experince that has no risk of being ruined by other people.
Agreed. I generally dislike online gaming for that exact reason.

Azuaron said:
The only multiplayer game I've played in months was Mass Effect 3's multiplayer (speaking of gimmicks), and I only did that to get my galactic readiness level up for the single player.
Me, too. I was so desperately bored by the multiplayer, as well, and the immaturity I ended up having to deal with only added to my lack of enjoyment. I haven't touched any form of multiplayer since.
 

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BiscuitWheels said:
Yeah, because people weren't playing tag or catch since the freaking Stone Age. Games existed before the Atari 2600, kids.
Actually no, first "game" was born when some lone man, perhaps a child, perhaps some hunter, gatherer started to daydream to kill some time and amuse himself, which isn't that different from modern storytelling.

That's the flaw of this whole trolling - it recognizes only organized play as "gaming".

However, indulge me : the first computers weren't mean to run any games at all. Should we drop this gimmick and make PCs what they are really made for ?
 

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*Facepalm* So enjoying epic stories of saving the world and fighting the villains in games like FinalFantasy 7, Skyrim, Mass Effect, and ect. are a gimmick? I'm SUPPOSED to try and get deeply involved in a story/game universe through getting paired up with obnoxious people online, who may or may not be trolling me and trying to ruin my enjoyment of the game for their own amusement?

I'm sorry, but that's just the blind/ignorant ramblings of someone who simply wants more money for the games HIS company produces. It'd be the same if I went outside and told people "Hey, don't read a book! Books are just a cheap gimmick! You need to ONLY watch TV, Books aren't interactive enough!".
 

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This guy has a voice... why? The CEO of a company that "create games for social networks, web browsers and Apple devices" has something important to say about the state of the whole medium... how? I mean, look at this. This is the stuff being developed by Gogogic. Hell, I could do that (probably). Oh, I'm being unfair, you say? They have also cross-platform MMOs? Like "Project Rupture", which "will be the biggest Gogogic project in 2011" and it is "coming soon"?

sadshitwhichisabitfunny.flv
 

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I don't know, guys. He DOES have a point. Look closely.

Solo-Wing said:
"Now we can connect people in and around a game through real time PvP and PvE mechanics and the need for pure single player games had gone down. We have multiple plots and stories and build the meta-experience for the entire audience. The premise for making games has changed - reverted back to building multiplayer experiences that are true to the game form," he said. "This doesn't mean that we have run out of room when it comes to great single-player titles or games that make you sweat and curse every couple of minutes. It means that those titles have to be very appealing and cater well to the hardcore audience."
Now THAT I can get behind. Only allow single-player campaigns if they don't suck? I'm all for that.
 

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Just let him try bringing multiplayer to Elder Scrolls, I'll have console ready with "kill" and crosshair pointing. Perhaps I don't want some obnoxious person spamming mic or text chat, or ruining my exploration.
 

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I hate high scoreboards, it doesn't matter what game I'm playing, I just want to enjoy the game, I don't want to know that I am number 348645 on the scoreboard seriously.
Also, Skyrim anyone?
 

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Well, fuck you too, Mr. AndersonAntonsson. If it's a gimmick then it's a gimmick I require.

"...it became an industry need to project the game as the other player."
And it still is.
 

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I remember when EA said something like this.
And I just want to paraphrase my favorite comment someone else said (If it's yours feel free to claim it).

Meanwhile the CFO of Zenimax is laughing his way all the way to five different banks.