Google Criticized as "Anti-American" for Tetris Logo

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Pezzer said:
*cough* D-day was mostly British troops *cough cough*.

Bloody American super-patriots.
Only if you count Canadians as Brits. I don't. You might as well count Americans as Brits at that point.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
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maddawg IAJI said:
Well google is a world wide search engine. It's not just American so wouldn't they put something that's a bit more international.
D-Day was international...
True but what of the countries that use google and were not a part of D-day. Such as Portugal,Spain,South Africa and the rest of the nuetral countries.Why should they have to go to Google and see something there not a part of. Millons took part in D-Day. Billons have played Tetris.
I don't disagree with Google using the Tetris logo at all, I was just stating that D-Day was international.

Just food for thought though: There may have only been millions involved in WWII, but the billions who played Tetris wouldn't have had the chance without the millions who fought in WWII. But also because of those millions, Google has the right to do whatever they please with their logo. I guess it's a two way street, so to speak. Either way Todd Huston is an idiot.
 

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Anti- American? So what 1/2 the troops weren't American but who cares about the people who took the most damage from the war eh?
1/4 would be more accurate. Let's not forget the German soldiers.
 

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There's an annoying tendency, when an American says something stupid, for people to then paint all Americans as stupid as a result.

It must really piss off the yanks, and I can't blame them at all.

(Speaking as a Brit).
 

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Dear Warner Todd Huston.


Kindly choke on a Tetris-shaped block of dicks and die.

It's funny to see some of you guys still cling so dearly to your sole moment of glory and pride, no less than 65 years ago, but you'll excuse us if we fail to give a sod over the fact an internet search engine preferred to celebrate the birth of one of the most iconic videogames ever created.

Sincerely
- Everyone else.


PS: There's a thing called "rest of the world", please look into it.
Edit: Try googling.
 

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Pellucid said:
Chipperz said:
Get. Over. World. War. Two. You turned up late and have spent the last six decades overstating your importance in it while everyone else is trying to move on. I'll give you an analogy; When I turn up late for college, I don't spend the next month telling everyone that I made a comment that our tutor said was a "good point"...
Worst. Analogy. Ever.

Did you see my clever use of periods there?

We ALMOST single-handedly defeated the Japanese (the Australian contribution is notable and the British contributed as well if you count their usage of Indian units). Operation Torch and D-Day would not have been possible without us. We supplied the entire Allied forces with ships, equipment, weapons, ammo, and tanks.

Yes, the Brits did the heavy lifting until we got there, but the fact is and will remain that without the United States, all of Europe would be speaking either German or Russian.

People only try to forget things they're ashamed of. People take time to remember and honor things they're proud of. What are you ashamed of?
I think you are having a go at over stating the importance the US had in the war. The war would have ended with the allies winning without the help of the US, it just would have taken a bit longer.

Yes, the US played a vital role in the war. But so did every other country involved. The US supplied the Allies with ships, equipment, weapons etc. However, they were not free. They were sold to them and the Allies were forced to pay the US back (fair enough you might think) which is one of the reasons why it took the Allied nations so long to get back on their feet economically. This is when the US really became a super power.

On Topic: I can understand how people might be disappointed in Google. I feel the need to point out that the references made to Google changing their logo for eg. Anzac Day is slightly different. Anzac Day in Australia is our one and only national holiday of military/rememberance nature. Is the anniversary of D-Day a national holiday in the US? (I ask because I don't actually know).

General question: Why is it that in the US somebody seems to be always claiming X is Anti-American? Google, didn't change their logo, thats Anti-American! Obama talks about forgivness and peace to Muslims, he is Anti-American! If you don't agree with me about X, you are Anti-American! I am sure that the vast majority of Americans arn't like this. Are they?
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
General question: Why is it that in the US somebody seems to be always claiming X is Anti-American? Google, didn't change their logo, thats Anti-American! Obama talks about forgivness and peace to Muslims, he is Anti-American! If you don't agree with me about X, you are Anti-American! I am sure that the vast majority of Americans arn't like this. Are they?
It's because we've had a huge rash of apologists since the hippy revolution; lots of revisionists are trying to rewrite history to make us appear worse than we actually were, and a lot of Americans actually seem to actively feel shame for being American. Heck, on this very thread we've had multiple people state that they're ashamed to be Americans because some random Internet guy said something they find to be embarrassing. It's the speed at which these people leap to an "I'm ashamed" reaction over such trivial things that makes people question whether or not those people want us to appear bad to the world.

It has become so frequent that more nationalistic Americans are becoming a bit reactionary against this trend. "Anti-American" has come to encompass both the American apologists who feel shame at their national heritage as well as another beast which has reared its ugly head on this thread: non-Americans who mouth-frothingly hate America because sometimes someone in America says something they disagree with or has a bit of a fat head about something. It's become a bit of a catch-all phrase for a large group of sentiments that American nationalists take exception to.
 

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Pellucid said:
AhumbleKnight said:
General question: Why is it that in the US somebody seems to be always claiming X is Anti-American? Google, didn't change their logo, thats Anti-American! Obama talks about forgivness and peace to Muslims, he is Anti-American! If you don't agree with me about X, you are Anti-American! I am sure that the vast majority of Americans arn't like this. Are they?
It's because we've had a huge rash of apologists since the hippy revolution; lots of revisionists are trying to rewrite history to make us appear worse than we actually were, and a lot of Americans actually seem to actively feel shame for being American. Heck, on this very thread we've had multiple people state that they're ashamed to be Americans because some random Internet guy said something they find to be embarrassing. It's the speed at which these people leap to an "I'm ashamed" reaction over such trivial things that makes people question whether or not those people want us to appear bad to the world.

It has become so frequent that more nationalistic Americans are becoming a bit reactionary against this trend. "Anti-American" has come to encompass both the American apologists who feel shame at their national heritage as well as another beast which has reared its ugly head on this thread: non-Americans who mouth-frothingly hate America because sometimes someone in America says something they disagree with or has a bit of a fat head about something. It's become a bit of a catch-all phrase for a large group of sentiments that American nationalists take exception to.
Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.

I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.

I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).

I'd rather have a whole country of people shouting about how awesome we are than have a whole country of people who are completely ashamed of themselves.
 

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Pellucid said:
AhumbleKnight said:
Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.

I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).

I'd rather have a whole country of people shouting about how awesome we are than have a whole country of people who are completely ashamed of themselves.
I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.
 

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That's really stupid. Who cares? Tetris is an amazing game. So what? You can be an American and still love a game made in Russia. I'm with everyone who thinks that is the stupidest criticism.
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.
I think this is a big source of misunderstanding between the United States and other nations.

When someone in the United States says "we're number one," it's not meant to be taken in a serious and literal manner. We don't mean to imply that others are somehow inferior or that we're superior. In fact, within the United States we do the same thing, especially when it comes to sporting events. Sure, when the Giants and the Patriots are playing in the Superbowl, the New York fans are saying "we're number one" and the New England fans are doing the same for themselves, but they don't seriously mean to imply that others are inferior.

That is to say, the United States is the greatest country the world has ever seen, and so is Great Britain, and so is France, and so are dozens of other countries. We fully expect people from each nation to believe in themselves and say patriotic and nationalistic things like that, and I've never heard an American nationalist begrudge a foreign nationalist for being a nationalist. It's not meant to be taken literally, it's just a rallying cry. Yes, there are exceptions to this: some Americans really do think that America is better than every other country, but I'd say that they're in the extreme minority.
 

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It's just journalists trying to make names for themselves by being pretentious jackasses.
Your pointing-out-the-obvious power level is OVER 9000!

I congratulate you on your success.

AhumbleKnight said:
Pellucid said:
AhumbleKnight said:
Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.

I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).

I'd rather have a whole country of people shouting about how awesome we are than have a whole country of people who are completely ashamed of themselves.
I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.
I'm pretty sure more people dislike the US for financially ruining their nations, invading their nations, or supplying their terrorists and militias with firearms than care about the "we are number one" thing.

At least if I'm in *name an African or Middle Eastern Country here* I'm more concerned that extremists are murdering my family with US made weapons more so than the fact that they have team spirit.
 

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theultimateend said:
At least if I'm in *name an African or Middle Eastern Country here* I'm more concerned that extremists are murdering my family with US made weapons more so than the fact that they have team spirit.
Actually Africa loves us now thanks to GWB. "George Bush" was the most popular name for boys in Sudan last year.

Bush spent more money on AIDS and food relief for Africa than any other President ever has, even factoring inflation.

This is one of the big misconceptions about the GWB presidency: He actually didn't make us globally more hated around the world. He made us more hated in the Middle East and Western Europe. He actually made us more popular in Eastern Europe, Africa, and much of Asia.
 

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See i'm pretty sure that the soldiers that died back in WWII died for our freedom, not so some Journalist can score some points with the Right wing...

I hate how we're forced to get into these silences to remember people i've never met, because then i feel awkward and sad about the fact that people i never knew died, instead of feeling happy that there were people who were prepared to die for what they believed in.

It seems stupid that joe public is made to think back to the horrors of war and to try and learn from it while governments and religious extremists seem to relish the oppurtunity to spill blood.
 

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Pellucid said:
theultimateend said:
At least if I'm in *name an African or Middle Eastern Country here* I'm more concerned that extremists are murdering my family with US made weapons more so than the fact that they have team spirit.
Actually Africa loves us now thanks to GWB. "George Bush" was the most popular name for boys in Sudan last year.

Bush spent more money on AIDS and food relief for Africa than any other President ever has, even factoring inflation.

This is one of the big misconceptions about the GWB presidency: He actually didn't make us globally more hated around the world. He made us more hated in the Middle East and Western Europe. He actually made us more popular in Eastern Europe, Africa, and much of Asia.
So the US /George Bush is more loved by its former enemies than by its allies? Great accomplishment! ;)
Sorry for off topic but it made me smile that countries without a free press/censored internet love your former president ;)
 

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HuCast said:
So the US /George Bush is more loved by its former enemies than by its allies? Great accomplishment! ;)
Sorry for off topic but it made me smile that countries without a free press/censored internet love your former president ;)
Correlation /=/ Causation. Then again, you knew that and were just trying to be clever. Emphasis on the "trying."

And since when are Japan, Poland, Czechoslovakia, South Korea, and China "former enemies?"
 

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Is it just me or do you find that some americans (mind you not all) just don't seem to understand that the world does not revolve around them. I mean if you think about it, the writer (Drew Zahn) of this article (WorldNetDaily [http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100376]) indicates that there is a lack of pictures of major american patriotic and religious holidays. Here's what bugs me about that sentence right there....the religious holidays part....this is just a wild suggestion BUT is it possible....I know it may sound ridiculous...but is it possible that, we all share the same religious holidays? It may be on separate days but the american religious holidays are the same as canadian religious holidays and european religious holidays. I mean if you wish to celebrate Hanukkah or Christmas, you can do so in any part of the globe, give or take a few countries. And I don't understand why this writer took it so hard that there was a lack of pictures? I mean for patriotic holidays, what pictures do you expect? What picture can possibly commemorate Columbus day, other than an old painting (which is available on google) or maybe celebration pictures. Also, for religious holidays, you can easily find a picture of Jesus in a manger or some other picture, maybe one of a menorah (I'm just using Christmas and Hanukkah as examples). I just don't understand why its such a big deal. I mean, I don't understand why he's so upset about an international search site putting up Tetris instead of a supposedly "american" patriotic holiday. While google does have its roots in America, it has become international and so, I would think its only fair to put up what affects everyone. That's what I think. And I'm sure people are gonna give me crap about the fact that D-Day did affect everyone and I would like to acknowledge that.