Only if you count Canadians as Brits. I don't. You might as well count Americans as Brits at that point.Pezzer said:*cough* D-day was mostly British troops *cough cough*.
Bloody American super-patriots.
Only if you count Canadians as Brits. I don't. You might as well count Americans as Brits at that point.Pezzer said:*cough* D-day was mostly British troops *cough cough*.
Bloody American super-patriots.
I don't disagree with Google using the Tetris logo at all, I was just stating that D-Day was international.maddawg IAJI said:True but what of the countries that use google and were not a part of D-day. Such as Portugal,Spain,South Africa and the rest of the nuetral countries.Why should they have to go to Google and see something there not a part of. Millons took part in D-Day. Billons have played Tetris.paypuh said:D-Day was international...maddawg IAJI said:Well google is a world wide search engine. It's not just American so wouldn't they put something that's a bit more international.
1/4 would be more accurate. Let's not forget the German soldiers.McCa said:Anti- American? So what 1/2 the troops weren't American but who cares about the people who took the most damage from the war eh?
TouchéKage Me said:1/4 would be more accurate. Let's not forget the German soldiers.McCa said:Anti- American? So what 1/2 the troops weren't American but who cares about the people who took the most damage from the war eh?
I think you are having a go at over stating the importance the US had in the war. The war would have ended with the allies winning without the help of the US, it just would have taken a bit longer.Pellucid said:Worst. Analogy. Ever.Chipperz said:Get. Over. World. War. Two. You turned up late and have spent the last six decades overstating your importance in it while everyone else is trying to move on. I'll give you an analogy; When I turn up late for college, I don't spend the next month telling everyone that I made a comment that our tutor said was a "good point"...
Did you see my clever use of periods there?
We ALMOST single-handedly defeated the Japanese (the Australian contribution is notable and the British contributed as well if you count their usage of Indian units). Operation Torch and D-Day would not have been possible without us. We supplied the entire Allied forces with ships, equipment, weapons, ammo, and tanks.
Yes, the Brits did the heavy lifting until we got there, but the fact is and will remain that without the United States, all of Europe would be speaking either German or Russian.
People only try to forget things they're ashamed of. People take time to remember and honor things they're proud of. What are you ashamed of?
It's because we've had a huge rash of apologists since the hippy revolution; lots of revisionists are trying to rewrite history to make us appear worse than we actually were, and a lot of Americans actually seem to actively feel shame for being American. Heck, on this very thread we've had multiple people state that they're ashamed to be Americans because some random Internet guy said something they find to be embarrassing. It's the speed at which these people leap to an "I'm ashamed" reaction over such trivial things that makes people question whether or not those people want us to appear bad to the world.AhumbleKnight said:General question: Why is it that in the US somebody seems to be always claiming X is Anti-American? Google, didn't change their logo, thats Anti-American! Obama talks about forgivness and peace to Muslims, he is Anti-American! If you don't agree with me about X, you are Anti-American! I am sure that the vast majority of Americans arn't like this. Are they?
Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.Pellucid said:It's because we've had a huge rash of apologists since the hippy revolution; lots of revisionists are trying to rewrite history to make us appear worse than we actually were, and a lot of Americans actually seem to actively feel shame for being American. Heck, on this very thread we've had multiple people state that they're ashamed to be Americans because some random Internet guy said something they find to be embarrassing. It's the speed at which these people leap to an "I'm ashamed" reaction over such trivial things that makes people question whether or not those people want us to appear bad to the world.AhumbleKnight said:General question: Why is it that in the US somebody seems to be always claiming X is Anti-American? Google, didn't change their logo, thats Anti-American! Obama talks about forgivness and peace to Muslims, he is Anti-American! If you don't agree with me about X, you are Anti-American! I am sure that the vast majority of Americans arn't like this. Are they?
It has become so frequent that more nationalistic Americans are becoming a bit reactionary against this trend. "Anti-American" has come to encompass both the American apologists who feel shame at their national heritage as well as another beast which has reared its ugly head on this thread: non-Americans who mouth-frothingly hate America because sometimes someone in America says something they disagree with or has a bit of a fat head about something. It's become a bit of a catch-all phrase for a large group of sentiments that American nationalists take exception to.
I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).AhumbleKnight said:Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.
I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.Pellucid said:I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).AhumbleKnight said:Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.
I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I'd rather have a whole country of people shouting about how awesome we are than have a whole country of people who are completely ashamed of themselves.
I think this is a big source of misunderstanding between the United States and other nations.AhumbleKnight said:I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.
Your pointing-out-the-obvious power level is OVER 9000!asinann said:It's just journalists trying to make names for themselves by being pretentious jackasses.
I'm pretty sure more people dislike the US for financially ruining their nations, invading their nations, or supplying their terrorists and militias with firearms than care about the "we are number one" thing.AhumbleKnight said:I would rather whichever one happens to be true. One of the reasons the USA is disliked so much is the 'where number one' thing when it is being claimed about something that is quite obviously untrue. Humility is a wonderful thing.Pellucid said:I understand it, even if I don't feel the same way. There's a such thing as a healthy level of nationalism. I mean, if you hate your country you're going to be a lot less likely to be willing to do your civic duties. I don't see the inherent problem with using nationalism to try to convince people to work together toward a common goal as long as said goal is a noble one. It's certainly no worse than trying to use racism (or accusations of racism where there is none) to further an agenda, fearmongering (which 95% of politicians use some form of), or self-victimization (which seems to be the new opiate of the masses).AhumbleKnight said:Thankyou. That was a very good and enlightening response. It is not limited to America either. It is not uncommon to hear some politician in Australia claim X is Un-Australian.
I find it difficult to understand the level of patriotism the people seem to have. The level of 'we are right/better because our country is the best on earth' is, quite frankly disturbing, especially when it is used to push obvious political agenda (sometimes more so when it is the agenda I agree with).
I'd rather have a whole country of people shouting about how awesome we are than have a whole country of people who are completely ashamed of themselves.
Actually Africa loves us now thanks to GWB. "George Bush" was the most popular name for boys in Sudan last year.theultimateend said:At least if I'm in *name an African or Middle Eastern Country here* I'm more concerned that extremists are murdering my family with US made weapons more so than the fact that they have team spirit.
So the US /George Bush is more loved by its former enemies than by its allies? Great accomplishment!Pellucid said:Actually Africa loves us now thanks to GWB. "George Bush" was the most popular name for boys in Sudan last year.theultimateend said:At least if I'm in *name an African or Middle Eastern Country here* I'm more concerned that extremists are murdering my family with US made weapons more so than the fact that they have team spirit.
Bush spent more money on AIDS and food relief for Africa than any other President ever has, even factoring inflation.
This is one of the big misconceptions about the GWB presidency: He actually didn't make us globally more hated around the world. He made us more hated in the Middle East and Western Europe. He actually made us more popular in Eastern Europe, Africa, and much of Asia.
Correlation /=/ Causation. Then again, you knew that and were just trying to be clever. Emphasis on the "trying."HuCast said:So the US /George Bush is more loved by its former enemies than by its allies? Great accomplishment!
Sorry for off topic but it made me smile that countries without a free press/censored internet love your former president