Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "Call of Duty Effect"

[userwhoquitthesite]

I just have to say, thank you.

For my aesthetic concerns?

lol. Tasteful indeed, but mostly for being a rational human being. Such beings seem to be rare specimens on the internet.

Bah, I can't take credit for that, you just haven't seen me in the right situation. I go for the throat of anyone who says Crisis Core was good.

 

[hvitulf]

Okay, I think we should let off of Foggy Fishburne. I think we have thrashed him appropriately, and its beginning to feel like beating a cripple. Foggy is obviously as stubborn as he is misinformed. Responding any further to his rantings would only serve to bring him his much desired attention. Ignoring him would probably be the best way to get him to shut up. I would normally encourage intelligent conversation, but he has rejected it and lashed out at anyone trying to reason with him, so lets just leave the schizo alone.

 

[cobrausn]

Can't believe it's still legal in America to carry guns... Fucking wild west. Well yeah the world is kinda retarded and this doesn't suprise me a bit. Hopefully all the gamers WILL buy a gun and then just annihilate each other. Many less humanbeings to worry about

It's not that simple, in most states you have to jump through a lot of hoops take lots of training, test and psychological examinations before you will be granted a "Concealed Carry Licence" and even then you are extremely restricted in where you can go with said concealed weapon.

It is remarkably easy to get a gun in most US states... but you can't just tuck it in your waistband and go shopping. It's like how it's easy to buy a car, not so easy to get a driving licence.

And plenty of US states don't allow concealed carry at all, such as New York, California, Washington DC even has a complete ban on handguns even in the home.

No, the wild west died a long time ago.

Dude, nice talking. I live in Sweden, about 35 people die here every year as a result of a firearm. In USA, nearly 9500.... Pls, don't try to justify that people were killed because of what exactly? Because some guy who CAN buy guns can be trusted not to buy guns and then SELL them to others less capable of wielding a gun? Yeah dude, I see what you're saying, civilized nation indeed

You're a fucking idiot if you think comparing the instance of firearm death in a country that essentially banned firearms to firearm death in one that hasn't, not to mention one with something like 40x more people is in any way an accurate statistical comparison of anything at all.

If you were intelligent, you would compare total crime rate before and after limiting firearm usage to show that it actually made a lick of fucking difference. But you can't, because it doesn't.

As I told the brit I argued with before about the same goddamn thing: Having less guns around doesn't make you less violent; it does, however, make you into a smug prick for no statistically provable reason. When you're national demographic includes something like MS13 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha], founded predominantly by violent illegals from other countries, you can fucking talk about violent crime rates and the reasons behind them and why you are, as a country, so much fucking better than us 'cowboys'.

Until then, fuck off and hope the police come to save your disarmed, idealisticly pacifist ass in your whitebread country when some scum kick down your door. We realists will stand up for ourselves.

We should ship a few MS13 gang members your way and see how long you like being unarmed.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

I have zero skill, and I can't kill with just about any weapon in Halo, much less with a sniper rifle.

Sure, sniping in games is a skill unrelated to actual sniping, but still a skill.

Check your internet connection. If it's bad, you WON'T be able to kill anyone.

 

[WarmasterPopey]

I'd have thought that anyone with any legit intelligence would realise that gaming teaches you just enough about firearms for you to know just how little you know about them, and that's about it. But I suppose the problem there is assuming that people have some form of intelligence.
Oh well. Not my problem.

 

[hypothetical fact]

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

I have zero skill, and I can't kill with just about any weapon in Halo, much less with a sniper rifle.

Sure, sniping in games is a skill unrelated to actual sniping, but still a skill.

Check your internet connection. If it's bad, you WON'T be able to kill anyone.

I've killed plenty of yanks on my, "you call this broadband" connection. Anticipating latency and shooting ahead of the target is an fps skill everyone in this corner of the globe learns.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

I have zero skill, and I can't kill with just about any weapon in Halo, much less with a sniper rifle.

Sure, sniping in games is a skill unrelated to actual sniping, but still a skill.

Check your internet connection. If it's bad, you WON'T be able to kill anyone.

I've killed plenty of yanks on my, "you call this broadband" connection. Anticipating latency and shooting ahead of the target is an fps skill everyone in this corner of the globe learns.

Hah. Thats something I haven't heard of before- bank on there being lag. My connection is strange. If I'm host, everything works fine and as it should, but if I'm not, people see me around corners and shit, rendering CQC impossible.

 

[ilikepie59]

First off, I am really annoyed by people that blame games for violence.
That being said, I hope to God that people don't go shooting their friends imagining they'll just "respawn"

 

[hvitulf]

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

I have zero skill, and I can't kill with just about any weapon in Halo, much less with a sniper rifle.

Sure, sniping in games is a skill unrelated to actual sniping, but still a skill.

Check your internet connection. If it's bad, you WON'T be able to kill anyone.

I've killed plenty of yanks on my, "you call this broadband" connection. Anticipating latency and shooting ahead of the target is an fps skill everyone in this corner of the globe learns.

Hah. Thats something I haven't heard of before- bank on there being lag. My connection is strange. If I'm host, everything works fine and as it should, but if I'm not, people see me around corners and shit, rendering CQC impossible.

OT question, how did we get dubbed "yanks"? seriously, where does that come from?

 

[SextusMaximus]

Gun enthusiasts?

...Well I'm not someone who thinks they know anything about guns, but I really think they've overestimated COD fanatics...

 

[Treblaine]

So you understand me, you're against me? Look, I just don't want people to die. I don't want people to live in fear. That's it. I give up. Seems like everyone is hell bent on defending guns. Things that end peoples lives. But sure, I'm glad you live in the UK

I hear you, I too have a lot of problems with the state of gun violence in the USA... yet on the other hand I see the right of Americans to bear arms as a great example of why it is such a liberal country and don't want to have that ruined.

If you want to be a bit more informed on my opinion on this, check out the youtube channel of Ted Ferny:

http://www.youtube.com/user/kiwitedferny

He is a New Zealand Millionaire Gun Collector, also an ex-infantryman. He has a lot of pearls of wisdom on the nature of gun ownership, war, self-defence that I have been greatly inspired by.

I too am glad I live in the UK. But I still like guns, I dislike the idea that as a civilian the law thinks I can never be trusted with them.

 

[Tron-tonian]

I grew up in the rural mid-west, and was raised around guns. I'm no expert, but I know how to handle one safely - which is the first and most important thing you learn. I also know that they make a heckuva mess (deer hunting. Note: the bowels are a bad spot to hit with a .308 Savage. Ruined almost all the meat. ;-)

See, guns are tools with one purpose: to kill things. Not wound, nor scare. They create large holes in things where holes are not supposed to be.

It still shocks me to see how many people do not know that just waving a gun around is a stupid idea (rule #1 - every gun is a loaded gun until you confirm differently). Moreso, it's worrisome the number of people that truly do think that "it's easy to get a headshot". Those of you who beleive it - spend some money and head to your local range. Prove me wrong. Games have no recoil. or auto-zoom. And no real-life consequences.

Sadly, and especially in the US, everyone thinks that guns are a god-given right, constitutionally protected, nothing else required but gun control is a whole new, separate rant). The lack of real firearms education is a huge issue, and one I can't see getting better anytime soon...

 

[Aedrial]

luckily im in America a country that isnt a pussy and lets it's citizens carry guns. What else would you use to protect your home and family a couch?

My fucking broadsword thats what. XP

 

[hvitulf]

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

I have zero skill, and I can't kill with just about any weapon in Halo, much less with a sniper rifle.

Sure, sniping in games is a skill unrelated to actual sniping, but still a skill.

Check your internet connection. If it's bad, you WON'T be able to kill anyone.

I've killed plenty of yanks on my, "you call this broadband" connection. Anticipating latency and shooting ahead of the target is an fps skill everyone in this corner of the globe learns.

Hah. Thats something I haven't heard of before- bank on there being lag. My connection is strange. If I'm host, everything works fine and as it should, but if I'm not, people see me around corners and shit, rendering CQC impossible.

OT question, how did we get dubbed "yanks"? seriously, where does that come from?

the yankees baseball team

...I'm not sure what to make of that...

 

[Altorin]

it's not necessarily a bad thing.

It's no worse then guitar hero kids thinking they know music (not even knowing how to play guitar, but rather being music enthusiasts because of single songs on Rock Band).

It may bring people into the industry who are willing to learn, and every industry needs more people.

 

[orgzon]

This sounds a lot like people who play Guitar Hero and when they can finally hit the orange button go try to learn the actual instrument because they think that they're a natural and that they could be a rockstar.