Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "Call of Duty Effect"

Carlston

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I wouldn't call it the [I said:
Call of Duty[/I] effect as much as the Halo effect. He came in to a Pawn Shop I was shopping around at and asked for an "Ess Em Gee" (Submachine gun). The owner said that he didn't carry them. He then asked if he had any sniper rifles. The owner showed him a .270 (I believe). As the punk (hat cocked off to the side and his pants at a level where a belt would not allow them to fall) looked down the scope, he asked how to "zoom it" (a common feature of scoped rifles in video games). The owner showed him how to magnify and clarify the image. The punk said that he was just used to the rifle doing that for him.

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

The conversation quickly degraded from that moment and ended very shortly.

Source: Firearm Blog [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/08/call-of-duty-effect/]


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And 50 bucks says the kid dressed up for that look, then spoke like that JUST to screw with people. And if he looked like such a punk why they let him handle a real gun without ID. If you say that, look like that and are over the age of 6... your being a jackass to disturb people period.
 

mrtenk

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Yes I've played a lot of Call of Duty in my day.

Now I am in the army and I just recently fired a gun (an RK-95) for the very first time. Nothing in call of duty or any other shooter really prepared me for the feeling of a firearm going off in your hands. It really is somthing else.

So, whatever you do, do not go into a gun shop with your CoD knowledge and assume you know a lot about weapons. You'll piss someone off and you'll look like an idiot.
 

Kinguendo

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So... they are complaining that games can actually teach people things? Well, complaining about education doesnt exactly help with thegun-toting moron stereotype... then again there is the "gaming is bad, Mmmmkay?" stereotype which seems to be reinforced in this article too... but it is to do with guns so back to guns we are.

I mean you dont see people asking for a Normandy fitted with stripper poles for an Asari they plan on finding along the way...

Honestly I dont see why they are complaining that something might peek peoples interest in the subject they too have interest in... Is this that thing Bikers, Surfers and Christians do where they think they are the true ones and everyone else is a poser?
 

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i dont know alot about guns, the only guns ive really ever used were hunting shotguns and hunting rifles. and i am a huge fan of call of duty as well as halo 3. but i dont consider myself an expert on weaonry. ive learned the names of alot of guns through games such as call of duty and counterstrike, but thats it. and i can actually understand someone thinking they know about guns from vide games. but buying the real version? what the fuck? why would you do that? what possible use could they have for it? to hunt? no, you dont use a fucking assault rifle to hunt deer. thats just being fucking insane.
 

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Man, I've never even fired a gun, but my long and storied video game career implies that I should be a crack shot.

Obviously I'm missing out.
 

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Call of Duty does a little bit to familiarize myself, but not to the point of being able to operate anything more complicated than a paintball gun. (Which is really, really different from a real gun!)I don't confuse knowing what a gun is with being able to operate one.
 

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rabidmidget said:
Bob_F_It said:
Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.
Throw the gun at them and run?
Take cover and unjam your weapon?

Pull out your side arm?

Throw your grenades... then pull out your side arm?

... run?
 

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Hiphophippo said:
Man, I've never even fired a gun, but my long and storied video game career implies that I should be a crack shot.

Obviously I'm missing out.
^^ Good luck with that mate. I recommend finding a "gun mentor." Someone who you know and trust, who DOES have experience with weapons. They will give you all the advice you need, better than I could.
 

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It happens with anything that makes it into a game. People who own the UFC game and think that rubber guard is the great cure all for everything in grappling have no idea. There is a little more to it than holding LB.

All I've learned is the silhouette of the cod4/MW2 guns. They don't really interest me. Having said that living in the UK it doesn't matter if a few kids think that MW2 makes them rambo. Guns are hard to come by.
 

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rabidmidget said:
Bob_F_It said:
Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.
Throw the gun at them and run?
Greatest. Strategy. Ever.
Kinguendo said:
So... they are complaining that games can actually teach people things? Well, complaining about education doesnt exactly help with thegun-toting moron stereotype... then again there is the "gaming is bad, Mmmmkay?" stereotype which seems to be reinforced in this article too... but it is to do with guns so back to guns we are.

I mean you dont see people asking for a Normandy fitted with stripper poles for an Asari they plan on finding along the way...

Honestly I dont see why they are complaining that something might peek peoples interest in the subject they too have interest in... Is this that thing Bikers, Surfers and Christians do where they think they are the true ones and everyone else is a poser?
The people who are critisizing Call of Duty are doing so not because the game itself it bad, (although some of them might think so) they are pointing out that Call of Duty an other shooters tend to turn certain people onto guns, making them think they know what they are doing when they are holding one.

It happens to all of us on some level. I was shooting rifles this summer and a small part of me was surprised that it wasn't like shooting a rifle in Call of Duty: World at War. I know that really shooting guns are different than shooting them in games, but the games to have that effect on your mind where you feel like you 'know' something about them.

It can happen in all kinds of games. Sports games, adventure games, etc. Pick something and, for better or for worse, somebody will either 'learn' or learn something from it.
 

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Greg Tito said:
Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "Call of Duty Effect"



Many gun enthusiasts complain how amateurs believe that they know about firearms due to playing videogames like Modern Warfare 2, which feature real guns.

The owner of the gun site, The Firearm Blog [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/], was surprised to realize that the most popular search term that led to his site was an obscure gun unknown outside the firearm industry, the Bushmaster ACR. That was until he realized that the gun was featured in Modern Warfare 2.

"I was surprised because, compared to the AKs, M4s and Glocks of the world, the ACR is relatively unknown outside of the industry," the blog's owner, Steve, wrote on December 8th, 2009. "Have any other bloggers noticed the Call of Duty effect?"

There follows a stream of anecdotes from gun enthusiasts about how videogames have turned gamers into "gun experts."

"I was riding around with a friend of mine when I asked him to stop in at this new gun shop," said one commenter, Robert. "He knows next to nothing about guns so I was surprised when he asked, 'Can you buy an ACR in there?' After explaining they don't sell it to regular people I asked him where the hell he had heard of it ... should've known before asking. He's an avid gamer."

Another funny story is told by Jim:

I wouldn't call it the Call of Duty effect as much as the Halo effect. He came in to a Pawn Shop I was shopping around at and asked for an "Ess Em Gee" (Submachine gun). The owner said that he didn't carry them. He then asked if he had any sniper rifles. The owner showed him a .270 (I believe). As the punk (hat cocked off to the side and his pants at a level where a belt would not allow them to fall) looked down the scope, he asked how to "zoom it" (a common feature of scoped rifles in video games). The owner showed him how to magnify and clarify the image. The punk said that he was just used to the rifle doing that for him.

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

The conversation quickly degraded from that moment and ended very shortly.

Source: Firearm Blog [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/08/call-of-duty-effect/]


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Anyone who says they want to "headshot some noobs" should have the authorities called on them.
 

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dietpeachsnapple said:
Hiphophippo said:
Man, I've never even fired a gun, but my long and storied video game career implies that I should be a crack shot.

Obviously I'm missing out.
^^ Good luck with that mate. I recommend finding a "gun mentor." Someone who you know and trust, who DOES have experience with weapons. They will give you all the advice you need, better than I could.
Oh no, I jest. I couldn't be less interested in even trying. But were I, I'd follow your advice.
 

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Spitfire175 said:
As something of a "local firearm specialist, long time hunter and army trained soldier" I really dislike this effect video games may have on people's attitude towards firearms. They become entertainment and more toys than what they actually are- tools for killing things. A total lack of respect is dangerous. And it really does get annoying when people get exited about guns they notice in games and think Call of duty is a combat simulator. Kids see the boomboom explosionfest action and think "that's what military must be like, you get to shoot shit and guns have no safety and you never have to clean them!"

Yes, I blame call of duty, along with just about every other modern gun-wanking FPS. MW2 is the worst offender, I think the designers forgot to add something called "r-e-c-o-i-l".

[small]I've been actively using firearms since 1997, spent 2 years in the military, been hunting since 2000, and have a rather large collection of historical weapons. I go to gun conventions across Europe, and even the States, as a presenter and as a customer. I have fired hundreds of different weapons, varying from .50 antimaterial rifles to .22 pistols and even flintlock muskets. A 12-year-old with Xbox Live gold only makes me laugh, or angry. Or both.[/small]
Those same kids probobly think, "Oh, who needs to take cover? I'll just take a few rounds to the chest and then i'll lay down and wipe the blood off my face and every thing will be fine."
Yeah it makes me mad because i do shoot real guns (mostly shotguns so my rifle knowledge is shit) and it makes both the gaming industry and fire arms industry look bad.
 

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qbanknight said:
this is just fucking terrifying, a bunch of assholes who think they know about guns playing games and they want to try em out in real life. you know that whole, we gamers aren't violent people thing? and games don't train you to become a mass killer? not doing a good job at reinforcing these things.

the only saving grace is that these kids are just idiots who truly have no idea how to handle a weapon, and that games are not yet "realistic" enough to show the actual workings of such a gun
Thank god for that or rather Infinity Ward for that. As for the training part? Please, they couldn't hit a guy at point blank. Especially the ones that try to "no-scope" those punks.
 

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I've never used guns before, but it seems that anyone who only knows about guns from Call of Duty will have a tough time in the military using guns (From what i understand, guns have quite a bit of recoil and need constant cleaning so that it doesn't jam up). Also running straight into a gunfight, getting shot, running back behind cover, and then seeing that the bullet hole in your chest is not going to seal itself back up would be pretty disorienting.
 

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So a robust and reliable method of identifying morons before they do any damage has pretty much created itself, and people are moaning? Surely instead of shaking our collective heads and fists, the gaming and rifle communities should unite and organise the construction of holding cells in gunshops-when some div comes in demanding a gun to 'pawn some noobs' the shop keeper says 'certainly sir, let me lead you to our firing range'... we then put them all on an island with a pile of pistols, one sniper rifle to fight over and loads of cheap alcohol,then let nature take its course...