Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "Call of Duty Effect"

[Singularly Datarific]

I can't be the only one drawing parallels between this and the "geniuses" of Guitar Hero that think they know how to play real guitar.

Even if they can, they don't know what a Treble Clef is. Or a quarter note. Or a half note.

 

[Spike815]

The cultural shift of firearms into entertainment is really kind of twisted when you realize they're built for the sole purpose of killing other human beings.

No they aren't. They aren't built for the "sole purpose of killing other human beings" any more than a bow and arrow, a knife, or an explosive is built for "the sole purpose of killing other human beings". Guns are built to propel a projectile in a (reasonably) straight line for a determined distance, with a degree of force.

Certainly, they *can* be used to kill human beings, and do a very good job at that, but they can also be used for hunting or target shooting or even admired for their aesthetic purposes. Hell, the Katana was a military weapon o' death and now we romanticize them (and other swords) as art pieces.

And lets not forget, there's an olympic sport which features GUNS.

Now, none of the above to to say everyone should just be able to buy a gun from their local walmart. Their should of course be regulation given the fact that these are weapons that can kill easily, but to summarize them as existing "solely to kill human beings" is ignorant and hyperbolic.

OK, fair, I oversimplified. Certain guns are designed specifically for military use. No civilian should have a reason to own an AK. You're right, there are guns for hunting and even some guns for practical self-defense. However, the process of gun ownership of these different types is about the same in the US. Acquiring a hunting rifle is not necessarily more difficult than acquiring an assault rifle. It's still a matter of going to the mall, not scouring the black market.

But while a handful of the most informed civilian gun enthusiasts may be responsible enough to own military-grade weaponry, people who aren't adequately responsible have access to them too.

What exactly are you qualify as an assault rifle? Because in America any automatic firearm is heavily restricted, requiring a class 3 weapons license to own. Those require ATF permission, registration, and a couple thousand dollars. They're only given to gun store owners and are obviously very carefully regulated. So no, you can't just go to the mall and buy an AK.

You could buy a semi-auto replica with little to no hassle, but not many people can legally purchase a full auto one.

 

[Mcupobob]

Damnit, this only gives gamers a worse name.

 

[duchaked]

Whilst Call of Duty did pique my interest in guns, I know better than to ask for expensive rifles that are still in production/limited military sale.

yup, hahaha

I do want to find the local shooting range and get involved there, it'd be nice

but I'd have to be pretty darn uneducated as a person to go to the store and be like yo I wanna headshot some nubs lol

 

[brtshstel]

I call it the "ROTC" effect. Didn't you know that all kids in high school ROTC are experts not only in firearms (even those not used in modern US military issues), but experts in warfare, self-defense and hand-to-hand combat, aircraft, and military history. They're even better than real soldiers!

 

[Ironsouled]

Rofl? srsly? gun nuts think they can complain about nething?

not sure what a "nething" is but its not good when you have some jackass walk in off the street and ask for a "SMG" or a "sniper rifle" and not understanding anything about them. Thats a major fucking concern.

You'll have people shoving .20 gauge ammo into a .12 gauge shotgun or taking a 6.8mm carbine and shoving 7mm ammo inside.

You have a point my friend... and you don't. if the guns actually fire, the idiots in question are more likely to damage themselves than anything else... well themselves and a gun that shouldn't be so mistreated.

And then of course theres the problems of turning these people into wanna be gun nuts. I profess to being a more than adequate hunter with... preferably my Marlin 30-30 (lever action for the win) or Remington 700 (yeah that cost me a tiny bit), less preferably a 12 guage from something dependable like Smith and Wesson or again Remington... Least preferably Handguns. I can shoot them but they're freaking pointless for anything besides people killing. That said you WILL have alot of unintentional people killings if idiots like the one featured saying Ess Em Gee are allowed free reign with them.

Wouldn't it be great if humanity were smart enough to be trusted with such things as guns... trusted enough not to do This kind of thing? Alas, though I will cherish my dreams.

 

[teisjm]

I can't wait for the youtube video of some tard trying to dual wield shotguns IRL.
I may not know a lot about guns IRL, but at least i know that i don't know about them.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

it only makes sense. think about it, we get mad when people think they know things about games, when they really know nothing. it only makes sense for people who like guns to be the same.

 

[SimuLord]

I can't be the only one drawing parallels between this and the "geniuses" of Guitar Hero that think they know how to play real guitar.

Even if they can, they don't know what a Treble Clef is. Or a quarter note. Or a half note.

Most of those kiddies just know how to pump out 16th and 32nd notes in Dillon minigun quantities like they think they're Herman Li.

 

[ImprovizoR]

There will always be people like that. It's not just games. People thought they can learn kung fu by watching kung fu movies. A lot of people "learned" about guns from movies too. Games are not entirely to blame although they are dominant cause of this particular problem now. But I became a gamer when games were still innocent and pure, just fun and nothing else so none of this crap affects me.

 

[Gauntes]

worst part is that every single one of these people that I know are under 14

It says rated M for mature for a reason mothers!

 

[andrat]

...*Facepalm*

That's just stupid.

I game avidly, have no interest in getting a gun. Even though most of these I can't here.

 

[blindthrall]

Okay, I'll admit I did try to buy a Dragunov after playing Hitman, but at least the gun stores I went to had heard of one, even if they had none in stock. One of the guys talked me into buying an SKS, which was about a tenth of the price it would have been to ship a Dragunov overseas.

Well tecnically you could get a Bushmaster ACR as long as you have the licenses and it falls into code.

but its still over 3 grand not counting all of the hoops you need to jump through to get it. For some reason people believe that Americans walk into gun stores with big wads of cash and walk out with assault rifles.

those people fall into the category of "Dumbass", or "euro-trash"

You can however walk into a gun show and do that. For about $750 I walked out with a Kar98, 18" shotgun with double pistol grips, and a modified AK-47 with tripod, scope, and drum magazine. And this was before Bush. The Kar98 only cost $80, and its by far the one I've used the most.

 

[ArcWinter]

Wow, that is scary. I just think the ingame guns look shiny. I would never actually attempt to learn to fire one.

Seriously, look really closely. They are shiny.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Halo bothers me moar than CoD, actually. Halo's guns often don't even have freaking sights on them. I find CoD to be more realistic than Halo by far, even if CoD is in and of itself full of holes.

 

[blindthrall]

You could buy a semi-auto replica with little to no hassle, but not many people can legally purchase a full auto one.

There are some people who know where to put the nail though. I'll shut up before the party van comes my way.

As far as games being realistic, Stalker is the only game where the simulation actually came close, even though that game was really guilty of throwing extremely rare/expensive/impractical guns all over. Although the Desert Eagle analog was impossible to use, which was a nice touch. I think the Franchi Spas-12 shotgun is the best example. It is in dozens of games, yet they're impossible to find IRL. The company doesn't even make them anymore.

 

[MessiahElephant]

I shudder to think of some acne-ridden, sweaty CoD nerd going into a supermarket with a P90 with the hopes of "ganking some n00bs".

 

[Eggsnham]

I notice it all the fucking time, some kid asked my Global history teacher (who was in the service) if he had ever used a certain gun that in real life is kinda not-good just because it was in CoD.

 

[Heeman89]

Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.

Unload the clip, put the safety on, keep it pointing away from people and look for someone who knows what they're doing?

EDIT the second - By "unload the clip, I mean eject, not fire randomly."[/quote]

^that's what I do