Realitycrash said:
..The joke is that a "assault gun" doesn't exist and a shotgun fires shells, not bullets, right?
It might seem obvious to some of you, but I know little about guns, and thus I am unsure if I got the joke or not.
"Assault gun" isn't a thing. There's assault rifles, and bloviating liberals like to pretend that "assault style weapons" actually means something when really it's just civilian variants of commonly available weapons that are modified to look scary. So liberals then try to jam legislation through congress, disrespecting the democratic process, which typically ends up being bills which ban modifications for guns which tends to be related to ergonomics. You know, things like barrel shrouds, flash hiders (which the US armed forces has pointed out is more useful for protecting the user's eye sight when used in low light environments more than anything else) and forward grips. Heck, the assault gun ban made the hand gun's weight a legal definition for "assault weapon."
Shotguns fire shells, which contain many smaller BB's. In a sense it'd be accurate to say they hold MANY bullets, but its accurate to just say shells.
To my knowledge, there is no assault rifle which is loaded using a clip. Assault rifles almost always use detachable magazines to load. If you've played a WW2 shooter, you've probably used the M1 Garand, the Lee Ensfield, or the Mosin Nagant. These are three examples of clip (or stripper clip) fed rifles.
Therumancer said:
Xan Krieger said:
I hate how COD is creating a generation of kids who think they know everything about guns but in reality don't know crap. My neighbor told me the PPSH-41 was an assault rifle. The worst part was he was totally serious. It's one of the world's most famous submachine guns. I was so pissed at him especially when I laid out why he was wrong and he refused to believe me because he figured the people who made the game knew better than me.
Well, to be honest I'd say based on it's size and appearance it can blur the distinction. If I had seen one without knowing much about it, I probably wouldn't have called it an SMG either given the relative size and handling of current SMGs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41
Picture of one on display, size compared to a uniform shirt there.
To be totally honest while you are right, I wouldn't get all that upset about it, to be honest one would expect the guys doing research for a really successful game franchise, to the point of modeling them (presumably) based on real ones to have the basic facts straight. Off the cuff if I had to trust some guy that I didn't know, or a gaming company that went so far as to model something, when it comes to basic info like that, I'd side with the gaming company for information as well. I'd be wrong, just saying it's understandable enough not to get upset over.
Personally I only know as much as I do about vintage firearms (which probably isn't much) from playing and GMing lots of PnP RPGs including settings like "Godlike" and "Weird World War II". The former being a World War II era super hero game, and the latter being a sort of campy "horror" game which I in turn took ideas from for my own mash ups and creations. Truthfully while "famous" to an extent I don't think knowledge about 1940s Soviet firearms, even one that survived decades as surplus, can exactly be considered common.
The issue is these kids help perpetrate all kinds of bad stereotypes. If you're going to make grown adults ask if you're a psychotic killer in training, you may as well be knowledgeable about your hobby, rather than just a poser.
The PPSH-41 meets none of the basic criteria of an assault rifle except for a detachable magazine. And COD's made many mistakes and fudged many guns classifications. They also called BAR's in World at War a machine gun.