Harrison Ford Apparently Jonesing to Kill Indy
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thebobmaster said:
Its allowed when you pull it off capably and competantly. Cases in point:
Alien: A horror movie set in space that focuses on staying alive
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Aliens: An action flick set on another planet that contains elements of horror.
Terminator: A rather standard serial killer plot given a spicy science fiction twist
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Terminator 2-Judgement Day: An excellent action movie that makes some valid points on the value of human life and the relationships we build with technology and one another.
Also contains the best ever action scene to involve a minigun being shot that results in no deaths.
Had the pair of them sat down and thought about how to handle to shift in tone better and perhaps realised that Shia with a moustache doesn't look older, he just looks like a rent boy, the film may have been better received.
Well, at least I can agree with Harrison Ford's likely sentiments.
How would you feel if hyper commercialization turned a character you made iconic into little more than a cheap corporate puppet?
I get the impression that Ford enjoyed playing as Indiana Jones more than he did Han Solo; he was amazing as either character but Ford's heart was definitely more into Indiana Jones.
Watching George Lucas commercially violate Ford's image must be driving him mad (Ford, that is).
How would you feel if hyper commercialization turned a character you made iconic into little more than a cheap corporate puppet?
I get the impression that Ford enjoyed playing as Indiana Jones more than he did Han Solo; he was amazing as either character but Ford's heart was definitely more into Indiana Jones.
Watching George Lucas commercially violate Ford's image must be driving him mad (Ford, that is).
I'm gonna go with 'yes' as the answer for your question. I have never seen him in a role where he isn't playing Shia LaBeoufdanpascooch said:
The movie would have been way better if they hadn't gone all ET phone Indy on it.CJ1145 said:
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I'd be fine with killing Indy off in the next movie, as long as it is the last movie in the franchise, and they bring back the classic style storytelling from the original three.
No idea, never watched either Transformers movie. I first saw him in TV show 'Even Stevens' and have never seen him diverge from the role he played theredanpascooch said:
George Lucas has lost his mind, no questions asked.
Making LaBeouf the main character? Seriously? He was terrible in Crystal Skull...
Making LaBeouf the main character? Seriously? He was terrible in Crystal Skull...
(takes Darth Vader pose) NOOOOOOO!
Shia Le'***** should never have a leading role. The fact he gets dialogue is bad enough.
Shia Le'***** should never have a leading role. The fact he gets dialogue is bad enough.
I'm reserving judgement on Shia LaBeouf for now. I haven't seen him in enough films to decide whether he's really good or not, and Indy 4 had other problems besides Shia. When a movie can alienate so many of its fans at once, there's more to it than one actor.
As for Indy dying, I don't see why not. He's not the hero anymore, he's becoming the teacher, and a standard writing tool is to have the mentor figure die. It could work, presuming they had a halfway competent scriptwriter.
Which is basically my concern. Based on the writing for the fourth movie, I'm not sure they either have or know any competent scriptwriters for the sorts of stories they want to tell.
As for Indy dying, I don't see why not. He's not the hero anymore, he's becoming the teacher, and a standard writing tool is to have the mentor figure die. It could work, presuming they had a halfway competent scriptwriter.
Which is basically my concern. Based on the writing for the fourth movie, I'm not sure they either have or know any competent scriptwriters for the sorts of stories they want to tell.
1st is there a character harrison ford has played who he hasn't wanted to kill. 2nd when I said lawl looks like shia lebouf will carry the indy torch I was JOKING. 3rd No one would want him to be the new indy they would need a new person to carry the torch or reboot the series.
Old news, but honestly I kind of agree with George Lucas here, if not his reasons behind it.minarri said:
To be entirely honest I think we have too much angst in the media right now, and it's been that way for a while. It seems to me that almost everything has to end on some kind of dark note, or at least not see an entirely favorable resolution. Heroes dying in movies, or losing everything has ceased being profound and become a stereotype. Truthfully I think it's caused the whole Emo/Angst movement to become the obnoxious lifestyle trend that it is.
Such storylines are only profound when they aren't common, and the good guys are winning in the end and living happily ever after most of the time.
For all comments I've made about the nature of Star Wars, I think part of the point of characters like Indiana Jones, Han Solo, and of course non-Ford characters like Superman, is that no matter how bad things get, no matter the challenges they face, they always win in the end and everything is going to be okay. Especially today I honestly think we need more of that. There is enough misery in real life without bringing it directly into escapist fantasy as well.
I think Harrison Ford has a few issues with the fact that he's a cult actor who became a serious actor. I think to an extent he wants to put his earliest work, which he is most famous for, and was arguably his least skillfull in an absolute sense, behind him, despite that being what the fans want to see. As he ages I think he has an issue with the fact that he's done all these good movies, with acclaimed performances by now, yet he'll be remembered by the populance as Indiana Jones or Han Solo. I figure part of his motive is that he thinks if he poisons the audience against those characters, people will forget about them, and later on down the road focus on his other roles. When you consider that "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" is being preserved by the US goverment, while most of his other work is being left to rot, I think stuff like that influances the way he thinks if he takes himself that seriously as an actor.
Truthfully I think Harrison Ford should be happy that he produced work, of any quality level, that has been loved by so many people, and lasted this work. Perhaps the fan base can be annoying, and he doesn't think it respect the peak of his skills, but how many people who dearly want a legacy never create one at all? Sadly I think Harrison Ford is old enough where he's not likely to develop like William Shatner who went through that phase, and then it seems gradually realized that he actually accomplished something great, appealing to the masses for that long is not something everyone has the fortune to do.
Of course George Doesn't want him to die! That money for those custom Jar Jar Coloring Books has to come from SOMEWHERE
Personally, he just looked tired in that horrible excuse for a 4th Movie. He didn't seem to be enjoying himself, and his character seemed uncharacteristically non-rogueish, stiff, conservative and really kind of an all around dick. Old Indy seemed was just... sad to watch.
Personally, he just looked tired in that horrible excuse for a 4th Movie. He didn't seem to be enjoying himself, and his character seemed uncharacteristically non-rogueish, stiff, conservative and really kind of an all around dick. Old Indy seemed was just... sad to watch.
I heard that Indiana Jones and Mutt travel to the Bermuda Triangle and discover the reason for the mysterious occurrences that happen there, which also grants both of them immortality:
...midichlorians.
They then find out that everyone who goes missing in the Bermuda Triangle is actually transported to a galaxy far, far away.
And then Transformers appear. Withlightsabers laser swords.
...midichlorians.
They then find out that everyone who goes missing in the Bermuda Triangle is actually transported to a galaxy far, far away.
And then Transformers appear. With