Nope I get a joy of glee when I can go on a kill spree with NPC's. I only feel bad when I kill one that I needed for a quest (but when he is useless I kill him).
Have you ever regretted killing a NPC?
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Not usually, but I definitely would have been remorseful if I had killed Mordin. Seriously, did anyone actually shoot him? You heartless bastards...
Yep. I have trouble doing anything amoral in games, so murder is pretty high up on my 'dont do this' list.
But I didn't regret killing Playboy. I thought he was an ass.
But I didn't regret killing Playboy. I thought he was an ass.
I felt pretty bad about Mordin and Wrex in Mass Effect 3. I liked them in the other games, but since I was trying to stick to a renegade mentality they had to go.
So the city erupted in a riot and everyone died? That actually sounds pretty badass.Feylynn said:
I get your point, which is why I'd rather it be built in-game and not something you have to mod in as I imagine they could make it so that such a situation doesn't occur while having the player still be able to kill anyone.
I think Bethesda originally made an attempt to make everyone killable, but then changed their minds. Some of it is even hidden in game. I play on pc, so on my uber Stormcloak character, I used console commands to make Elisif non-essential after the civil war and killed her. The Stormcloak guards then started commenting that a Daedric prince killed her. I looked it up here:RJ 17 said:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Elisif_the_Fair#Trivia
Turns out Bethesda even planned for Erikur to replace her but decided against the idea. Sad, really. There's so much cool stuff almost in game, like Nazeem almost had a purpose besides being a dick. He was supposed to lead a faction called Wintersand Manor.
You know, they actually did that with Morrowind. It basically let you kill plot characters, and when you did, a little message came up saying something along the lines of "You dun goofed! Your destiny has been irreversibly changed. Reload a save, or continue on the hopeless path you have created."RJ 17 said:
Speaking of - I always feel a speck of regret when - and if - I go on a mindless slaughter quest in any game. I very rarely do it, so there you are, but when I do... Yeaaah, guilt. So, yeah, I regret every single NPC I kill, for no fucking reason.
'Sept maybe morality points.
Yes. I am incapable of playing any game as a thoughtless mass-murderer because of this. It just seems wasteful in my eyes. In Minecraft I wanted to see an iron golem, so i murdered a NPC village. No golem to be seen, and I regretted it ever since...I could have had an easy-to reach village...
To clarify, my character had a strict "don't take shit from anyone" mentality and had an uncontrollable urge to kill anyone that dares to hurl an insult. Like those random adventurers who call you a milk-drinker. I don't know what's wrong with drinking milk, but I'll be damned if I let someone say that to me in an insulting manner.TAGM said:
Which is why I wanted to kill all the nobles in Windhelm, every last one of them refused to show the Dragonborn proper respect. In all honesty, I'd rather a message pop up saying "You done gone and broke the game. Reload, start a new game, or you might as well have at it." Every now and then a little GTA mindless rampage is fun is all I'm saying. In Oblivion I used to don the Grey Fox's cowl and run through the streets killing guards and anyone else that wanted to fight...only to run away, remove the cowl, and have everyone forget what just happened. Ahhhhhh those were the days. :3
I'm not sure if you "kill" people in loneliness, there aren't really even people, and they just disappear, but I thought they died. And I felt bad for it. I ended up just trying to avoid causing any more "deaths." gamelink: http://www.necessarygames.com/my-games/loneliness/flash
Yeah, honestly, I prefer a little message over "I am invincible lol" as well. Not that I ever actually go killing plot-important characters anyway, but the option of being able to so I can just fuck up the game was pretty nice.RJ 17 said:
Although, honestly, I only found it out through using the admin console to get myself into secret rooms and then killing a plot-important bloke that spawns in one and tries to kill you. So, ya know, my guilt was somewhat undermined by the fact that A) I saw it coming, and B) even if I didn't, I'd already cheated, so I wasn't saving anyway. x3
It's kind of weird, really, how Skyrim took that OUT. I mean, that's barely any extra programming there, to have a "You dun goofed up destiny" message come up. What with the realism craze that's still sort of going on today, you'd expect them to at least let you kill plot important characters yourself. Maybe even let them die from dragon attacks, although, that could really fuck you over in the first few levels of play. (character levels, I mean.)
Every time I kill an animal I regret it. Even bears--godless killing machines that they are. They're just trying to survive, so I try to let them.
I can't think of a recent example of a human I killed and then regretted killing, but there's been quite a few.
I can't think of a recent example of a human I killed and then regretted killing, but there's been quite a few.
I killed Playboy... Didn't felt bad about it, I knew that he was a prick that could and would sell me out the first chance he get.RedxDecember said:
One NPC that I did felt bad about killing was the Maiden in Kingdoms of Amalur, she didn't want to be "evil", that was what fate set out for her, and of course that during the Ballads quest she does some pretty nasty stuff, but she was desperate and her actions are some what understandble. Needless to say that I took the weak path and decided to reload the game and not kill her...
I did felt a bit bad for killing the Boethiah follower in the House of Horrors quest, that until I read a bit more about Boethiah and figure out that she\he is a massive *****\douchbag... So yeah... Fuck that guy.
This will get buried, but one time I was playing The Darkness, and got sick to my stomach. Like, lurch over and wince, due to guilt.
In one of the semi-free-roaming sections, I stumbled upon a girl in an apartment. After doing her mission, my younger self decided to kill her on a whim (I hadn't fought any one in awhile and my younger selfs a DICK). I turned to do it once, felt a pang of guilt, almost left, then just turned back and did it. POP.
By chance, despite the games wonky ragdoll physics, the girl fell in a really realistic fashion. She was just starting a dialogue line the moment I shot her, and was cut off as her body fell backwards, and her legs tripped on the couch behind her, making her body stumble and flip over it and land on the ground on the other side, angled up as her legs rested one on the cushion, one ontop of the backrest. From my perspective her legs were the only things visible, aside from a perfect splatter of crimson on the wall in a pattern and lighting more realistic and chunky looking than I had seen in the game so far. After standing perfectly still for about 5 minutes, I walked closer and inspected her body from the front. Sprawled out on her back, with a single hole in her head. I had to rest, physically, because this was the first time a game made me feel like I committed murder. I didn't reload a save, but I sure as hell never went back in that room again.
In one of the semi-free-roaming sections, I stumbled upon a girl in an apartment. After doing her mission, my younger self decided to kill her on a whim (I hadn't fought any one in awhile and my younger selfs a DICK). I turned to do it once, felt a pang of guilt, almost left, then just turned back and did it. POP.
By chance, despite the games wonky ragdoll physics, the girl fell in a really realistic fashion. She was just starting a dialogue line the moment I shot her, and was cut off as her body fell backwards, and her legs tripped on the couch behind her, making her body stumble and flip over it and land on the ground on the other side, angled up as her legs rested one on the cushion, one ontop of the backrest. From my perspective her legs were the only things visible, aside from a perfect splatter of crimson on the wall in a pattern and lighting more realistic and chunky looking than I had seen in the game so far. After standing perfectly still for about 5 minutes, I walked closer and inspected her body from the front. Sprawled out on her back, with a single hole in her head. I had to rest, physically, because this was the first time a game made me feel like I committed murder. I didn't reload a save, but I sure as hell never went back in that room again.
yeah that game did not work at all for me because you can actually touch other dots and they vanish, but some vanish on their own. made me completely not care. and when you make a game and call it a "notgame" the amount of pretentious bullshit makes me wanna choke.God of Path said:
and of course Korean children are miserable, half of them are starving to death while their fat baby-faced leader opens an amusement park.
OT: not really, when i go on killing sprees i don't mind and other than that i prefer to avoid killing as much as possible.
oh the boss. i hated killing the boss
Some song or movie was playing on the tv in the background too. It was all I heard, fainter than faint in otherwise complete silence as I sat there feeling awful. I turned the tv off before I left.
This was honestly a lot more affecting than any scripted character death in any other game. Pressing X for this, Y for that doesn't have nearly the same effect.
This was honestly a lot more affecting than any scripted character death in any other game. Pressing X for this, Y for that doesn't have nearly the same effect.
Killing the kid standing right near the starting area of Battery Park - Castle Clinton in Deus Ex. I remember playing the demo for the game years ago, and this kid was the first thing I see when I get to the area. I didn't have any food on me, so I decided to be a dick to him and keep pushing for information. Then I decided to shoot him to see what would happen. Felt so bad after that now I get soy food and give it to the two kids in the park every time I do a playthrough.
Not really killing, but leaving Cid to die in FFVI. I know he can get better if you feed him enough of the "good" fish, but it's so difficult that I just leave it and run around the island battling monsters instead. Still makes me feel bad, though.
(Also, this is one of the few times where someone has said they wanted to kill Dwayne. His storyline is way better than Playboy's (and he isn't a testy, double-crossing snake) - plus, you get Playboy's condo too! What's bad about that?)
Not really killing, but leaving Cid to die in FFVI. I know he can get better if you feed him enough of the "good" fish, but it's so difficult that I just leave it and run around the island battling monsters instead. Still makes me feel bad, though.
(Also, this is one of the few times where someone has said they wanted to kill Dwayne. His storyline is way better than Playboy's (and he isn't a testy, double-crossing snake) - plus, you get Playboy's condo too! What's bad about that?)