Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material

Piecewise

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Mcface said:
GloatingSwine said:
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Axeli said:
Sounds like a harmless pervert to me - someone who has all kinds of weird porn on his hard drive, not some child stalking pedophile.

15 years and a quarter million fine for a victimless crime is ridiculous either way.
It starts off with this type of stuff, but could easily escalate to him wanting to act upon his fantasy, as it does with most pedophiles.
So when the police arrest you for fraud and embezzlement tomorrow, you will have no contest to that charge, because you may one day commit those crimes?
If I bought a "how to commit fraud and embezzlement" book, then yeah, they would be in right to question me. Just as they should have this guy. Should he be locked up for 15 because hes a sicko with poor judgment? No. He should however, have been warned/watched. Because any psychologist will tell you it normally starts with this kind of thing, real or animated, and evolves to the actual crime.
You care to prove that statement? Because if you actually look at the psychology of it the ones most likely to "evolve" into pedophiles are abused and are often into more violent or sadistic porn. The act of child molestation is almost always about control not about sexual release. Why do you think children who are abused are more likely to become abusers themselves? Its so that they can control others to make up for their own feelings of being controlled.

If you really care about catching child molesters early you should recommend keeping a watch on sexually abused children, not on lolicons. Unless you can show that a significant % of people who enjoy lolicon eventually move on to the real thing.
 

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Isolated incident, hopefully no big deal? But ethically, not cool at all! Personally, I collect conspiracy-theory-shit, nazi-shit, serial-killer-shit, freaky-cult-shit, 5-percenter-shit, all kindsa shitty-shit becuz I think humans are crazy and funny and I wanna see what they're up to at their most extreme. I don't get into the sexual stuff much, certainly not child-sexual, but I *could*, if I wanted to collect a buncha weird shit to, y'know, athropologically study weird-ass people. And if I did that, big brother might jail me, just 'cause. Not too cool, buddies. There's no evidence that this guy is a creepy rapey fucko. He was probably just, y'know, collecting shit, because shit is shitty, and that can be interesting. Shame on the ivory tower and the moral thought police. Not fucking cool. How the hell can we have free speech if we're not allowed to be informed? Yeah, sometimes it *does* require a guy stockpiling extreme hentai to truly be informed. Innocent until proven guilty.. this guy was guilty of nuthin' but having-of-information. A damn fuckin' shame, for reals, yo.
 

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DeMoNxDaVe said:
Piecewise said:
You can argue back and forth all you want but the truth is this is just a moral ruling. The courts can make up whatever the fuck they want about the reasoning but in the end it's just that some people didn't like his taste in art (or fapping material) so they decided to jail him as an example.
Agreed.
I 3rd this.

I mean, we all know this falls under a whole load of controversial arguments, but in the end, it's just a couple of old people sending a dude to jail because they think his cartoons went to far.
Ironic this happened in the states of all places.
 

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The charges stemmed from a U.S. Post Office seizure of materials that Handley had shipped to him from Japan back in 2006, which eventually led to a search of his home

Why were they going through the dudes mail? And why did this justify a search of his house?
 

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Piecewise said:
That and the greeks and romans sure did love the butt sex. A guy who did another guy in the butt was considered very manly. Not to mention all the fairy tales. Snow white was like 12 when she got knocked up (seriously, look up the original text)
Wait wait wait...snow white gets knocked up?o_O Is it by the dwarves?I need to know more!

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Wow... the courts are real cock blocks now
I read this post,and imaged the guy's lawyer standing up and shouting at the judge 'Stop cock blocking my client!'
 

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Yawwy said:
Piecewise said:
That and the greeks and romans sure did love the butt sex. A guy who did another guy in the butt was considered very manly. Not to mention all the fairy tales. Snow white was like 12 when she got knocked up (seriously, look up the original text)
Wait wait wait...snow white gets knocked up?o_O Is it by the dwarves?I need to know more!
That disney stuff about a kiss awaking her. Nope, the dude did more than kiss.
 

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Lullabye said:
DeMoNxDaVe said:
Piecewise said:
You can argue back and forth all you want but the truth is this is just a moral ruling. The courts can make up whatever the fuck they want about the reasoning but in the end it's just that some people didn't like his taste in art (or fapping material) so they decided to jail him as an example.
Agreed.
I 3rd this.

I mean, we all know this falls under a whole load of controversial arguments, but in the end, it's just a couple of old people sending a dude to jail because they think his cartoons went to far.
Ironic this happened in the states of all places.
Not really. Look at our ban on Pot. Started because a media giant feared that hemp would endanger his paper business so he slandered it till the public demanded it be outlawed. Even now, when we know all the stuff he claimed was bull the overt moral assholes refuse to overturn it because "It was what mah parents taught me".
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
Yawwy said:
Piecewise said:
That and the greeks and romans sure did love the butt sex. A guy who did another guy in the butt was considered very manly. Not to mention all the fairy tales. Snow white was like 12 when she got knocked up (seriously, look up the original text)
Wait wait wait...snow white gets knocked up?o_O Is it by the dwarves?I need to know more!
That disney stuff about a kiss awaking her. Nope, the dude did more than kiss.
...Did he hug her as well?
 

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Piecewise said:
You can argue back and forth all you want but the truth is this is just a moral ruling. The courts can make up whatever the fuck they want about the reasoning but in the end it's just that some people didn't like his taste in art (or fapping material) so they decided to jail him as an example.
Agreed, it wasn't that long ago they locked you up for possession of gay porn. Before that it was for the obsecene act of looking at a white woman while being black... wait, they linched you for that one... and so on. Before that if you went into the wrong church it was a jail term, so this trend of 'lock them up cause I don't like what they like' is long established.

These 'moral laws' are nothing more then one minority group using the legal system for their own bigoted views.

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Not even a fine. First Amendment. I'd ride the case up to the supreme court. How long ago was it that Lenny Bruce was jailed for saying 'fuck'? Yet again another 'obscene' thing that harmed no one.
The SC ruled that such was protected under the first amendment, over turning a law that congress put on the books a few decades ago that made illustrated and written works of 'obscene porn' illegal. Congress response? A few years ago they just reissue the law... I kid you not, they just ignored the SC and 'made it all illegal again' even though this is not, in any way, itself legal to do.

Sadly, since then, the supreme court has been stacked with people who don't give two squats about the bill of rights or protecting the citizens from corrupt, loud mouthed and/or abusive people within government. I would still advise him to push forth, because you can bet at least two of the people on the court would be jerking off to the same (or worse) porn. Added with the handful that still try and keep the bill of rights alive he might have a fighting chance.

Give the courts past rulings it is more then likely they would side with him.
 

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"charges of possession of obscene visual representations"

Just like it says VUSUAL REPRESENTATION, in other words-it wasnt real. WTF its gonna get so bad that someone will be arrested for thinking something that another person finds offensive.
 

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Yawwy said:
Piecewise said:
That and the greeks and romans sure did love the butt sex. A guy who did another guy in the butt was considered very manly. Not to mention all the fairy tales. Snow white was like 12 when she got knocked up (seriously, look up the original text)
Wait wait wait...snow white gets knocked up?o_O Is it by the dwarves?I need to know more!
The prince finds her while she's dead/asleep and basically date rapes her. It's very hard to find the original text because the Grimm brothers never published it and the version that did finally get out was already edited because all the incest and rape conflicted with christian morals.
 

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Makes you want to check what else may land you in jail... He's got a strange hobby, but I'm inclined to let him be. He doesn't hurt anyone with it, and for me that's the thing that counts.
He has a strange hobby that, thanks to an association with pedophilia was finally outlawed several years back. Your other hobbies are very likely safe.

(Not saying I approve of thought crime laws, but it does stand to reason).
 

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So we're censoring thought, now, too? You'd be lying if you said you never imagined anything obscene; Nightmares count.

What's his new outlet, I wonder?