Hothead Gamer Flips Out, Burns Warhammer Fantasy Army

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

You know guys, I just realised, pretty soon Total War: Warhammer might be the only thing officially doing something with Old World Warhammer, (and WHFRP V3 from FFG...if you're into the 3rd ed). It could be the Warhammer world's swansong. I has a sad

 

[iniudan]

He is lost. He is a follower of Khorne, in his rage. Rage that is understandable, as Tzentech, in his wiles, changes Warhammer Fantasy to Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. A plague from Nurgle, I say. Though I admit, looking at the new models gives me a sense of beauty that only Slaanesh could provide.

Rage is the domain Slaanesh, those who fall to it are no true Khornite, been blinded by it, you lose sight of the battlefield, wasting time on weakling and coward, their offering are unworthy.

Be wrathful and bathe in the blood of your enemies.
Take no pleasure in the task, honor simply demands it to be done.
If none come to you, then conquer, one day, the worthy will come.
Those without strength shall serve willingly, without demand, without emotion, a tool.
Lacking a servile mind, they shall be left to themselves, without resource, as they were born.
So one might rise, worthy of the Lord, over a mountain of death and decay, uncorrupted by the vile.
Their intend straight and narrow, only a pure will to survive, unchanging, beyond machination.
Stoic to death, killing simply been instinct, immune to the influence of the decadent and weak.
A predator, a champion, an offering of blood, a skull for the Throne.

 

[Megalodon]

Ffs people. It appears Slaanesh is not fucking gone, but rather has a different symbol and may be captured for the time being or avoiding Tyrion (at least, that seems to be the consensus here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310839-newsrumours-slaanesh/ ). AoS hasn't even been released properly, don't jump the gun. GW have made a horrific abortion of a game, yes, and the fluff will probably suck balls, but at least throw shit at GW for things they've actually done. Like the rules. Or the Sigmarines.

It's pretty clear Slaanesh is benched for the time being, though they probably didn't kill him outright and will eventually bring him back with a 'new' Slaaneshi warband or warscroll or whatever it's called now. They wouldn't just swap out the rune for no reason when they've leaned so heavily on the idea that you can reuse your old models to play the new factions, and making someone repaint every banner or be out of date is just kind of pointless. But those people are just idiots guessing on a forum, like we're doing here, only they have more faith in GW not totally fucking up.

Wouldn't they? Astra Militarum, Tempestus Scions, Aelfs, Duardin, Orruk. All names changed for either fuck all, or ephemeral 'IP copyright' reasons. It's entirely in keeping for modern GW to change the symbol for Slaanesh. Besides, if a lack of new models is what 'benched' implies, Slaanesh has been 'benched' in favour Khorne/Nurgle for years before this AoS bollocks arrived anyway.

'Idiots guessing on a forum' is kinda the point. No one knows anything yet. But while that B&C thread talks about the likelihood of Slaanesh's removal, people examine what evidence there is from WD/leaks, posit ideas etc., this thread merely had one poster say 'Slaanesh dead' (with no evidence backing up the claim), then the GW hate brigade throws out its rage. Again, distrusting GW, fine, getting enraged at their stupidity fine (I'm certainly not going to claim it's undeserved). But make sure they've actually done the thing you're pissed off at them for first.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

[EDIT: Fixed quote

It could be the Warhammer world's swansong.

If I had a Belorussian Ruble every time someone says that - I would be a dollar millionaire.

And USD/BLR exchange course is 1/15391 at the moment.

Srsly, that's something people been saying since the times of the Third Edition AT LEAST.

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Considering the warhammer world is now officially kaput it might be for the warhammer world, I didn't say Warhammer itself. There's a difference between "oh no, this new ed will kill warhammer" and "the warhammer world is officially exploded, it is possible we won't see official releases set in it in future".

Yes, I know, 3rd ed until death. DEEEEEEAATH!!

 

[Thunderous Cacophony]

You know guys, I just realised, pretty soon Total War: Warhammer might be the only thing officially doing something with Old World Warhammer, (and WHFRP V3 from FFG...if you're into the 3rd ed). It could be the Warhammer world's swansong. I has a sad

I wasn't super-jazzed about that game before (Total War games haven't really been stellar for a while, and the limited options for factions left me cold) but now I want to buy it day 1, even though it will be a buggy mess, so that they support it with the planned DLC and give me one last look at my beloved Old World.

And then there will be nothing but my WFRP sourcebooks to fill the hole in my heart.

 

[SweetShark]

This is why there is he Old Rules:
If you don't like the New ones, you stick the old ones. Problem solved.
Curious, what kind of rules GW changed?

Btw yes, the WH Universe was always silly.
IF the best explaination of how the Orks can built their weapons in WK40k, is cause of magical anger to take anything they see and built it as a weapon, then yes, it is silly.

 

[spartandude]

This is why there is he Old Rules:
If you don't like the New ones, you stick the old ones. Problem solved.
Curious, what kind of rules GW changed?

Btw yes, the WH Universe was always silly.
IF the best explaination of how the Orks can built their weapons in WK40k, is cause of magical anger to take anything they see and built it as a weapon, then yes, it is silly.

Well Age of Sigma plays like a much simpler version of 40K rather than fantasy.

But also the story has just gone berserk (even more so than usual) and the main human faction (previously the empire with its somewhat authentic looking military units) are now interchangable with space marines. No seriously if i didnt know they were for fantasy i would have assumed the Stormcast Eternals were Space Marine honour guards.

 

[The Great JT]

I can't help but laugh at this. Not because of the guy burning $900 of plastic miniatures, not because of the responses, but because of Games Workshop. They're so out of touch it's insane.

No, I don't play WFB or 40K, and I certainly don't play Age of Medieval Ultramarines, I just laugh at how stupid the setting is.

 

[veloper]

So what, he burnt 5 dollars worth of pewter? The real crime here is the list price on those things.

Heh. Yeah, the prices are absurd, but the worth of a thing is what the fool will give for it.
Selling that crap would have been smarter. Not buying in the first place would have been much smarter still, but then we wouldn't have had this comedy to laugh at.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

I wasn't super-jazzed about that game before (Total War games haven't really been stellar for a while, and the limited options for factions left me cold) but now I want to buy it day 1, even though it will be a buggy mess, so that they support it with the planned DLC and give me one last look at my beloved Old World.

And then there will be nothing but my WFRP sourcebooks to fill the hole in my heart.

Yeah, suddenly it got a lot more attractive. Hell, I might even re install Mark of Chaos (probably only briefly).

1st edition until death, DEEEEAAAATH!!!!!. Just kidding, 2 was actually really good, I just preferred the earlier setting of 1 and the feel of the illustrations and the Enemy Within campaign, less bashy, more freaky.

 

[Mikeybb]

It could be the Warhammer world's swansong.

If I had a Belorussian Ruble every time someone says that - I would be a dollar millionaire.

And USD/BLR exchange course is 1/15391 at the moment.

Srsly, that's something people been saying since the times of the Third Edition AT LEAST.

Well, I always thought that attitude of "DOOM DOOM, WOE AND DOOM" really fit with the old world setting.
Gamers rending their clothing in woe as an endless, undefeatable apocalyptic horde of world ending rule changes descend from the northern realms, all the while the dark god Maaht WaaaghD watches on and laughs darkly.

The new one has, ugh, 'hope' in it.
Whatever that is.
It makes me feel dirty, that much I do know.

 

[Tony2077]

I don't really care about those things but burning them seem like taking things way too far.

 

[Thunderous Cacophony]

Btw yes, the WH Universe was always silly.
IF the best explaination of how the Orks can built their weapons in WK40k, is cause of magical anger to take anything they see and built it as a weapon, then yes, it is silly.

That's not really how it works; The idea that's floated out there in the fluff is that if they believe it will work, it will, but that has been portrayed as everything from stuff like Stormboyz being slightly less likely to kill themselves than statistics would suggest, to Ork shootas that are nothing but a metal box full of scraps with a trigger welded on. They tend to err on the side of the former rather than the latter, which fits consistently with a universe where everyone has a bit of psychic power (that in humans, for example, manifests in their faith in the Emperor).

There are silly parts to Warhammer, and as a rule I prefer the older fluff where they were more lighthearted, but it's not always total shenanigans.

1st edition until death, DEEEEAAAATH!!!!!. Just kidding, 2 was actually really good, I just preferred the earlier setting of 1 and the feel of the illustrations and the Enemy Within campaign, less bashy, more freaky.

I prefer 2nd because it's essentially just a better 1st, fixing some obvious holes like the Naked Dwarf Problem but leaving the core of the game intact. And while Enemy Within is probably the best campaign WFRP ever got, and it's up there with the best in RPGs, I always had a soft spot for post-Storm of Chaos Old World. When I first heard about the End Times, I wanted to go to GW HQ and show them how at one point they had started down the road of an interesting change to the world that advanced the plot and shook things up a bit without destroying literally every bit of lore not directly tied to army units. If they'd allowed Valten to survive, it could have been a very different story.

 

[Thaluikhain]

And I thought Matt Ward was bad...this is so utterly bone-headed that it's actually kind of amazing in its ineptitude. This is the kind of stuff I'd expect from a parody or April Fool's joke. I'd be laughing if it weren't for the fact that it supplants the old lore.

I know, right. They keep one upping themselves with their awfulness.

Before Ward, people thought Goto was the worst (and not without cause at the time). Before Goto, it was sorta Jonathan Green (in that he wasn't bad, but the rest of BL was just so much better).

 

[Buckets]

Why doesn't he just use the old rules to play if not then sell all that shit, must be a right dickhead.

 

[wAriot]

Thank the God-Emperor I never really cared about the game outside WH40k. Or, really, about the game at all. I only liked painting the figurines, and I don't think they can ruin that.
But I'm sure they'll surprise me, it's Games Workshop after all.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

I prefer 2nd because it's essentially just a better 1st, fixing some obvious holes like the Naked Dwarf Problem but leaving the core of the game intact. And while Enemy Within is probably the best campaign WFRP ever got, and it's up there with the best in RPGs, I always had a soft spot for post-Storm of Chaos Old World. When I first heard about the End Times, I wanted to go to GW HQ and show them how at one point they had started down the road of an interesting change to the world that advanced the plot and shook things up a bit without destroying literally every bit of lore not directly tied to army units. If they'd allowed Valten to survive, it could have been a very different story.

Yeah, to be fair, overall I've got to give it to 2nd ed, they ironed out most of the kinks in the mechanics, made a good magic system and put a lot of effort into the sourcebooks, Corruption, Salvation and Sigmar's Heirs particularly. I just really liked the feel of the old illustrations, the new ones fell very flat for me and I do think illustrations play an important role in helping players imagine the world they're playing in, and I was never really interested in a plot.

 

[Dragonlayer]

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The reason why Slaanesh is no longer around?

Spoiler

Teclis captures him/her while Slaanesh feasts on Elf souls and puts him/her in a golden cage. His/her replacement seems to be the Horned Rat. I'm serious. The best part? Its only mentioned in a side blurb and as one sentence long. HOPE YOU ENJOYED THOSE MODELS BECAUSE THEY JUST BECAME WORTHLESSS!

Are you freaking kidding me? She Who Thirsts, the Dark Prince, the ultimate expression of hedonistic, depraved perfectionism whose visage drives mortals to insanity and immediate supplication, was captured by the oldest cartoon trap in existence? The fucking box, propped up on a stick with string?

What the actual fuck Games Workshop!?

But you see, all Slaanesh is is sex, and we can't have sex in a game for little boys! (No, seriously, I couldn't make this bullcrap up if I tried). At least its better than the Sigmarines, or Sigmar becoming a literal God-Emperor, or Gork and Mork becoming one god Gorkamorka, or...I should probably stop now. It's better to take the rage in increments.

If that's the real reason, then there aren't words that can do justice to the level of half-hearted hypocrisy on Games Workshop's part. You can't have codex descriptions about Slaaneshi extravagence but only release multi-boob Daemonettes and what-not, then complain you're alienating your immature consumer base (to say nothing of the insulting idea that *only* 10 year old boys with too much sway over their parents income like Warhammer). As for everything else you say....Emperor preserve us all from this stupidity....

 

[greatcheezer2021]

To be honest I think burning those figures was about the only way the guy could make himself give up the hobby.

for me, it was when gamesworkshop stopped manufacturing and selling citadel colors, red ink 61-64. no other inks, no other mixture, no other medium can capture the awesome product that very ink brought out of plastic and paint when applied by brush. the techniques used for inking, the fading, the staining, the pooling, and glaze mediums used to make the acrylics appear, "gloss" only complemented the superiority of this ink over the new washes.

i am alarmingly low on red ink 61-64. why mention only red? blood. red metal plates, and weapons emblazened hot to the touch. no modern wash """"""inks"""""" gamesworkshop attempts to sell, will never ever dream of even reaching the calibre or quality the inks had. as much as my heart weeps, i can never bring myself to destroy my own miniatures. they are all i have left of the red ink 61-64, the classic citadel colors, and as well as my youth.

i can only imagine how much red ink, blue ink, black, purple, yellows, and chestnut browns this imbecile must have destroyed in his spectacle of misbegotten foolishness.


i care nothing for the petty changes of the rules of the tabletop. but the art, the craft, the time poured into the miniatures i have grown up with, have allowed my growing appreciation of the wonderful worlds of warhammer and 40k to be accepted as another beautiful facet on the dimensional gem of immersive creativity they have to offer to unlimited imaginations of all who would seek it.

perhaps i am a fool. but i am not as foolhardy as this wretch who would destroy his own collection.