How is 9/11 viewed internationally?

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Agayek

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erto101 said:
I'm not saying 11/9 wasn't a horrible day and everything, BUT worse things happen in this world and they are mostly ignored.
Those worse things don't happen in first world countries though, and therefore get barely any media attention.

Besides that, there's a pervading sense of cultural superiority between first and third world countries. Yes, even yours. People tend to look at numbers like what you spouted and dismiss them as the consequences of a nation run by savages. It's not a conscious thing, but almost everyone in the first world will look at "Second Congo War. 3.8-7.8 million dead (1998-present)" and immediately think something like "well if they only had the education and sophistication of us, they wouldn't be killing each other!"
 

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I woke up like normal, got dressed like normal, ate breakfast like normal, and turned on my TV like normal. But then... there was no DBZ. Only news. I waited, and waited, and waited, but there was no DBZ. There wasn't even any Pokemon. I was so sad.

More on-topic now: I don't really care about 9/11. Yeah, it was bad and all that, but I'm not gonna have a minute of silence or anything like that.


hahaha you deserve a cookie my friend
i must say living in alberta canada basically on the other side of north america i do feel the same way sure it was bad and all but its not the worst that the world has gone through
 

The Atomic Irishman

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Now, im not foreign. Nor do i qualify myeslf as being directly/traumatized or linked to the events that happened that many years ago. Hell, i was only elven! But there's something we all need to get straight here. You're all at rights to say "yeah, it happened, it was a big deal then. Its been a decade lets move on." But you have to remember something, this event, much like pearl harbor has become a "day that will live in infamy." To say that it wasn't an attack, is like saying some one hits you with a baseball bat and it cant be called assault with a deadly weapon. Events like these are burned into our national memory now. Now matter how little or how much anyone anywhere else cares or cares not to remember it. We, as a nation will remember it. Our fellow countries are never obligated to feel the same about it, that's your choice, your right. But to play it off like it didn't matter is ludicrous.

This was the first time since Pearl Harbor that we had ever been attacked on our own soil. It was one of the most catastrophic events to ever occur in New york City. And it is also among the most terrible, if not cataclysmic losses of life in one single instant ever witnessed in the United States. To watch those planes hit, and then hours later see the towers crumble in less than ten seconds in a cloud of dust and debris made my blood run cold.

What occurred in the aftermath, was another blow to our national soul. You have to understand us. we were furious, we were a nation on fire and we wanted revenge. Our anger for the first time became tangible and like a wounded animal we lashed out. It didn't matter who ti was who got in our way, we wanted answers, we wanted justice. We became blind and faithless to the world around us. It became an excuse for us to make war upon likely innocent peoples. And when regular American citizens realized it... it was already too late. We made our own coffin and for the next decade we would slowly and painfully pay for it with blood, money and the very core of who we are.

It was an embarrassment to Americans. We were all to blame. We now live in a world of our design and we have to live with it. But there is always hope, salvation and a chance to do whats right. My fellow foreigners, We did something shameful indeed, but always know. Some of us had the best intentions.
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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It was a tragedy, but after this long i've become fed up and now i just see it as one big american whine-fest.

Cruel? Maybe. Cold? Sure.
I just don't get why americans seem to think the rest of the world should care about their problems if they don't give a shit about ours.
 

Neonit

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what happened during 9/11 was horrible. what happened thereafter was even worse.
i feel sorry for the families that lost somebody that day. i feel anger for people who didnt lost anybody, but act like they did. abusing tragedy for own needs is a terrible thing to do.
 

Agayek

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I doubt any intelligent person would actually think that.
You can't seriously tell me you've seen things like that and thought, even if only for an instant, either "that would never happen here" or "it's because they're third world".

It's an instinctive reaction, spawned by the root cause of racism. Specifically, what I like to call the monkey-sphere, or Dunbar's number [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number]. Essentially, because of the structure of the human brain you can only form a stable relationship with a set number of people (100-230 generally). Anyone beyond that is a statistic to you, not a real person.

Because of this dissociation, exclusivity is an instinctive trait. Part of exclusivity is the instinctive belief that whatever group you are in is better than the others, by virtue of the fact that you're in it. Culturally, we've been able to grow to the point where, for the most part, races are less of a dividing line in the monkey-sphere, but money and societal status still stand firmly.
 

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It was an awful event, but it was awful due to the deaths of people who are assumed to have been innocent not because it happened to America.

When it happened we were called out of class to the assembly hall and a (small) TV was set up where the news was being shown. We saw the second plane strike, not sure if it was live but I think it was.

My thoughts now? The anniversary of a sad event, but I don't commemorate or think very much about the blitz, which was a hundred times worse and happened on the same country/island as me, so why would I think overly about 9/11?

My gran went down south to meet my grandad, who was serving on the Russian convoys, on his leave. I remember her telling me about how stunned she was when she saw Manchester, or should I say, what was left of Manchester.

I live in Scotland by the way.
 

Jas0913

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I actually live right near ground zero, you can see the whole from the window in my lobby and I didn't stay home last night because getting in and out of my area is such a hassle today.

But yeahh.... 9/11 was a travesty and whether you live in the U.S. or not the incident has had some kind of impact on you. The event contributed to the recession and economic downturn within the U.S. which has had some kind of effect on nearly every other nation outside the U.S.
 

GraveeKing

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I don't want to sound rude but well..... I stopped caring after less than a year - it wasn't anything THAT big. I mean if it was hundreds of thousands then I'd understand of course! And the fact all those people were innocent is terrible too.

But really - I was practically insulted to see a reference to it in my local newspaper. It's REALLY getting old now, people die of a lot worse, a lot more in other country's and you never see news on that do you? In short:
Yes it was terrible, but we REALLY need to move on it's getting pathetic.... I expect most of the family's just want to move on with their lives too! I mean how would you feel if you saw it on T.V yet again after all this time?
 

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Cheshire the Cat said:
NZ. Not cared about in the slightest. In fact people find it distasteful that americans still go on and on about it like it was such a big thing. And the whole "They attacked us!" is disgusting.

Simple fact is this, unless you actually lost a family member in the attack then you really need to stfu about it and stop acting as if it had anything to do with you.

Oh and internationally its viewed 11/9. <.<
Number 1: Fuck you, 3000+ civilians died when two planes were rammed into two of the taller buildings in the world. It was "such a big thing".

Number 2: Just because it doesn't have emotional meaning doesn't mean it wasn't important.

Number 3: What do you mean by "The whole 'They attacked us' thing is disgusting"? We got attacked. It's basically the same effect as if someone fired a cruise missile into the WTC, just low budget.

Edit: Also ramming a plane into a building is just like firing a cruise missile at one. It's an act of war.
 

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Agayek said:
Satsuki666 said:
I doubt any intelligent person would actually think that.
You can't seriously tell me you've seen things like that and thought, even if only for an instant, either "that would never happen here" or "it's because they're third world".

It's an instinctive reaction, spawned by the root cause of racism. Specifically, what I like to call the monkey-sphere, or Dunbar's number [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number]. Essentially, because of the structure of the human brain you can only form a stable relationship with a set number of people (100-230 generally). Anyone beyond that is a statistic to you, not a real person.

Because of this dissociation, exclusivity is an instinctive trait. Part of exclusivity is the instinctive belief that whatever group you are in is better than the others, by virtue of the fact that you're in it. Culturally, we've been able to grow to the point where, for the most part, races are less of a dividing line in the monkey-sphere, but money and societal status still stand firmly.
I have never thought either of those.

'Third-world' countries are in the state they are in because what we now count as 'First-world' countries took it upon themselves to run in to them, take everything of value (including the people) and kill anyone that showed the slightest resistance.

We continue to ruin these countries through the diamond and oil trades.

It's our fault.

Could it happen here? No. But only because we're making it happen somewhere else.
 

Wintermoot

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I moved on from it and think it,s tasteless they re-air footage from the collapsing towers every year just to get some ratings.
 

omega 616

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I dunno about the rest of my country, although with the amount of memorial statuses I guess it some how matters to them.

To me it's just another day, so a lot of people died x amount of years ago, if the media is to believed more people die every day in the third world than those two towers but nobody gives a flying fuck about that.

I might come off as a cold hearted dick but I am just saying if were only going to care or give memorials about people in the first world, your the dicks. In the age where were all meant to be equal, how come people in the third world are much less equal than the "first" world?

Do I wish a load of people never died in them towers? Of course! Did it effect me in anyway? No .. to be honest it was 2 weeks after it happened that I knew about it.
 

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ScourgeOfHell said:
Ok so im gonna go ahead and speak as a typical muslim "terrorist" or "vandal" or whatever cliche you've bestowed upon us these days. You know what I love about the US, their tendency to break rip a nations heart out for so much as scratching American national pride. The millions of civilians killed in America's 3 massive ***** fits are ofcourse totally ignored, oh no, what matters is that America's big Penis compensation was torn down, yeah that totally justifies 3 trillions dollars worth of war. People, get over it, its been a decade we get it, it was a bad thing to do, we pwomise never to do it again happy?
Jesus, man, calm down.

Americans in general don't think of Muslims that way. Only assholes/bigots do. And those exist in every country.

Also: Technically Al Qaeda started the war against them, and you can't seriously be defending the Taliban. I'm pretty sure RAMMING A FUCKING AIRLINER INTO A BUILDING IS AN ACT OF WAR. It's just as if some country launched a cruise missile into the WTC.
 

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Other than how interconnected the world is these days, and the tragic loss of life (even innocent children - some unborn) it also shows what pure hatred can make people do. It doesn't matter if it happened to the US, the UK, or any other country. The point is it happened for such a poor reason. It wasn't a military target, it designed to cause fear and pain. That should speak to any good natured human being regardless even if you're one of those small people who don't care at ALL when someone dies in such a way just because you didn't know them.

I pause a moment and do feel it on some level every time I hear about things like this to people all around the world. Countries, religion, politics aside we're brothers and sisters all the same. To say you don't care at all means to me you're a heartless fool. I'm not expecting tears or a moment a silence but you should acknowledge the lives get wasted in a blaze of hatred.

I typically avoid international discussion because idiots with no first hand experience about a country will loudly run their mouth about what's wrong with it or what they do wrong or why they are horrible, but you're a monster if you don't care at all when things like this happen.
 

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Platypus540 said:
ScourgeOfHell said:
Ok so im gonna go ahead and speak as a typical muslim "terrorist" or "vandal" or whatever cliche you've bestowed upon us these days. You know what I love about the US, their tendency to break rip a nations heart out for so much as scratching American national pride. The millions of civilians killed in America's 3 massive ***** fits are ofcourse totally ignored, oh no, what matters is that America's big Penis compensation was torn down, yeah that totally justifies 3 trillions dollars worth of war. People, get over it, its been a decade we get it, it was a bad thing to do, we pwomise never to do it again happy?
Jesus, man, calm down.

Americans in general don't think of Muslims that way. Only assholes/bigots do. And those exist in every country.

Also: Technically Al Qaeda started the war against them, and you can't seriously be defending the Taliban. I'm pretty sure RAMMING A FUCKING AIRLINER INTO A BUILDING IS AN ACT OF WAR. It's just as if some country launched a cruise missile into the WTC.
He's being a bit over the top, but the west started it. We've been almost literally raping their countries for centuries.
 

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Cheshire the Cat said:
NZ. Not cared about in the slightest. In fact[footnote]Though to be fair this is just from people I have spoken to about it.[/footnote] people find it distasteful that americans still go on and on about it like it was such a big thing. And the whole "They attacked us!" is disgusting.

Simple fact is this, unless you actually lost a family member in the attack then you really need to stfu about it and stop acting as if it had anything to do with you.

Oh and internationally its viewed 11/9. <.<
Is it so wrong to have sympathy for the plights of others? If you think it is, I feel very sorry for you.
 

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personally im indifferent (im an american) its terrible that it happened, but as to the people saying "get the fuck over it" "unless you had family and friends involved, then it shouldnt matter or whatever" thats like saying the only people who should be affected by the olso shooting is the parents of the kids involved
 

Platypus540

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Jonabob87 said:
Platypus540 said:
ScourgeOfHell said:
Ok so im gonna go ahead and speak as a typical muslim "terrorist" or "vandal" or whatever cliche you've bestowed upon us these days. You know what I love about the US, their tendency to break rip a nations heart out for so much as scratching American national pride. The millions of civilians killed in America's 3 massive ***** fits are ofcourse totally ignored, oh no, what matters is that America's big Penis compensation was torn down, yeah that totally justifies 3 trillions dollars worth of war. People, get over it, its been a decade we get it, it was a bad thing to do, we pwomise never to do it again happy?
Jesus, man, calm down.

Americans in general don't think of Muslims that way. Only assholes/bigots do. And those exist in every country.

Also: Technically Al Qaeda started the war against them, and you can't seriously be defending the Taliban. I'm pretty sure RAMMING A FUCKING AIRLINER INTO A BUILDING IS AN ACT OF WAR. It's just as if some country launched a cruise missile into the WTC.
He's being a bit over the top, but the west started it. We've been almost literally raping their countries for centuries.
I meant specifically against Al Qaeda and the Taliban, which is what this thread was about. Yes, the late 80s early 90s Mideast was pretty messed up.
 

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Hear me out here, because I'm going to try my best to sound as non-offensive as possible here.

*ahem*

The 9/11 attacks were a devastating loss to us Americans, and I sympathize deeply with anyone who lost a family member there. However, I can safely assume that most people outside of America are fairly indifferent on the subject. This is what I'm assuming, and if someone outside the US wants to correct me on this, then go ahead, because I am fully accepting any criticism of my interpretation of outside reactions to the event.

But, personally speaking, things like the Oslo attacks and other great massacres outside of the US were shocking to me but, tbh, they didn't really leave as much an impact as 9/11. I honestly think this has more to do with the fact that, since it was outside of our country, the people can't relate to it as well as they could if it was in, say, their own country.

So, quite honestly speaking, they're probably indifferent on it. If someone wants to correct me on this, go ahead, but that's just my thoughts on it. My condolences to anyone who lost someone on 9/11, because it really was a tragic event.