I just uninstalled Skyrim

[bojackx]

If you didn't like it, fine, whatever. But one of your criticisms turns out to be an advantage to some.

The part about your decisions having no real impact is one thing I adore about Skyrim. I don't want to do a quest and make a decision, only to find out I miss out on much better items and quests.

On Skyrim you can do whatever, you can be an assassin, a werewolf, an archmage and a dragonslayer all at the same time, and that's what I love. The same kind of thing was true of Oblivion, which I also loved to hell.

 

[Duffeknol]

Killing people because they're bad actors is kind of douchey, but hey, your choice man. There were some flaws I guess.

Heh, you never wanted to off a character you didn't like? Or kill everyone in, say, the Star Wars prequels?

Well, if I killed all of them, we wouldn't know more about Darth Vader's origin story, would we now? But yes, cuz they're assholes, not bad actors. Then I just stop watching or laugh and ridicule them.

I ridiculed them too. With my bow.

 

[Random berk]

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I recognise each of your complaints from when I play the game, and they are all perfectly valid. In fact, you pretty much just summed up the reasons as to why Skyrim won't be replacing Mass Effect as the best thing I've ever sen on a console. However, I would say that Skyrim has enough good points to keep me playing for a while. The world is amazing, the combat can be in-your-face and brutal, but it easily allows players who prefer a more tactical approach to be as effective as a walking tank of a fighter (My character is a lethal ranger/sniper, though he is also very effective in close combat with a sword, shield and light armour when he is discovered, or when I get bored), and is very rewarding whether you prefer to pick opponents off at a distance, or charge in and bludgeon them to death. I also think that the fencing in Skyrim is far better than other button mashing games, or whatever the hell you could call swordplay in Assassins Creed. Combat I think is what makes this game stand out the most for me.

On the other hand, the lack of consequences does bother me. There's no reason not to play every single questline in one save, regardless of the fact that the morality behind questlines is often completely at odds with the others. A lot of the very interesting sideline quests like Gaulders amulet, or the Dragon Priests force you to join the mages college, and my character was never supposed to be a goddamned mage! As a result I'll probably just play the whole game as my ranger and forget about playing again later as a heavy warrior or a mage. This does make roleplaying very difficult, though as the game lacks both co-op modes or interesting npc's, there's not much to roleplay with anyway.

In conclusion, I can see where you're coming from, but the game isn't entirely shit. You just have to play it less like Mass Effect and more like Red Dead Redemption.

 

[TKretts3]

The part about your decisions having no real impact is one thing I adore about Skyrim. I don't want to do a quest and make a decision, only to find out I miss out on much better items and quests.

But if the outcome of a choice is meaningless to the overall game, then wasn't the choice itself meaningless as well? Why not just opt for no choice, and have the same event happen no matter what.

If it does nothing in the game, then why not get rid of the choice thing all together?

 

[Epona]

Oh well, not like I read past the first sentence anyway.

The internet makes people really ignorant.

"HE DOESN'T AGREE SO I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT HIS OPINION IS! OTHER OPINIONS MAKE ME ANGRY!"

Yeah, you took that out of context but that's the internet.

 

[Grey_Focks]

The other day I uninstalled Company of Heroes and it's expansions. Don't get me wrong, REALLY great games, I just hadn't played them in a while and I needed to clear up space for TOR. Before that, I think I uninstalled Dead Island because it ran like crap on my system, and I plan on getting it for PS3 now, instead.

.....that was the point of this thread, right? Talk about recent games we've uninstalled? Oh, and E.Y.E is an alright game, fun co-op, but I got it at release, and it was just buggy and easy as hell. Has it gotten any patches, or updates of some sort in these past few months? If so I may just re-install it, but that's for another thread...."I just installed Skyrim", I suppose.

EDIT- Oh, to go more off topic, I need to know something. The third or fourth level in CoH, the original, where you have to capture a town from the germans, then defend it from their counter-attack.....has anyone ever beaten that goddamn level? I have three other friends who have the game, none of them have gotten past this part, including myself.

 

[Stavros Dimou]

It was somewhat dissatisfying to me too unfortunately.
Most things in Skyrim are step-backs from Oblivion.

I mean come to think of it,with the exclusion of acrobatics or athletics,and even the persuasion system,the available gameplay styles where really reduced.
One of the characters I loved most in Oblivion was a handsome charismatic bard,who made all people like him.With the mechanic to alter a npc's feelings towards you,even if the way to do that (the mini game)wasn't that good,you could at least role-play a character based on that,and even make up your very own objectives,like making all people in a city like you or hate you...
You could also role play an athlete,or an acrobat,and I just realized that the number of activities that feature DIFFERENT gameplay style where reduced,with only smithing being added.

Except the reduction of gameplay styles,the npcs of Skyrim are also a step-back from Oblivion.
In Oblivion they had much more lines of dialogue to speak,and the fact that you could change their feelings made them more believeable,they felt more alive than in Skyrim where most of them barely have a single line of dialogue...
Somebody (me) would expect that a game 5 years later would improve on already existing features,and if not it would at least keep them on the same level as its predecessor,but Skyrim doesn't do that.

Skyrim also lacks facial animations. The models of the faces in Oblivion might where ugly,but at least they had some basic animations to depict feelings like being scared,happy,sad,surprized,etc..
Skyrim's faces are immovable.Only their eyes blink,and their mouths open when they speak.Like they don't have muscles on their faces.

Another thing that was back-step was the Journal.
Oblivion's journal featured detailed entries for each phase of each quest,that where archived after you had finished a quest.
Well in Skyrim's quests every new entry overwrites the old one,and they are not as detailed,while the "Miscellaneous" quests,doesn't even get journal entries...
I had like 60 Misc quests,and all I could see was their titles,and guess what ?
After so many dialogues with npcs and things done in the game,I forgot what some quests where all about,and the Journal does nothing to remind me what is a misc quest all about.
My motivation thus for playing these misc quests is dropped,they seem irrelevent.



Except from the stepbacks,Skyrim had some other flaws too.
First of all it's how often you meet some types of creatures.In 70% of the time you fight either bandits,draugrs,or spiders.It gets too repeatitive after a while and you start wishing that you would meet other creatures more often.

The fight with Alduin was a letdown.He is supposed to be the son of Akatosh,a demi-god who can destroy the whole world,and you beat him in medium difficulty even without the use of spells,only needing about 2 health potions... Random dungeon monsters are harder than the demi-god,apocalypse bringing,big bad final boss!!!

Playing quests gets repeatitive fast,because the huge majority of them follow the same pattern.
(A tells you to go to place B so you can kill/retrieve C,and bring him back some item)
What happened to the other quests that Oblivion featured that involved things like interrogating people,or searching for clues,or deciding who is right and who is wrong ?
You know,those quests that required you to do anything else than visiting a dungeon to retrieve something ?

And of course,after you finish the main quest everything else seems irrelevent.
You just saved the world from the Apocalypse,the end of times,and then you are going to fight what ? And for what reasons ?
Bethesda was focused so much on making the Dragon crisis seem like the most important thing on this world,that after you complete that,you feel anything else is not of importance,and your motivation to do quests just drops.

These where the things that made me get bored of Skyrim.
Stuff like the awfull PC user interface,the bugs,the not so good graphics,and the broken PC controls wouldn't hurt me so much since I knew that would be fixed either by Bethesda or modders.

 

[Epona]

Another thing that was back-step was the Journal.
Oblivion's journal featured detailed entries for each phase of each quest,that where archived after you had finished a quest.
Well in Skyrim's quests every new entry overwrites the old one,and they are not as detailed,while the "Miscellaneous" quests,doesn't even get journal entries...
I had like 60 Misc quests,and all I could see was their titles,and guess what ?
After so many dialogues with npcs and things done in the game,I forgot what some quests where all about,and the Journal does nothing to remind me what is a misc quest all about.
My motivation thus for playing these misc quests is dropped,they seem irrelevent.

This kind of thing sells more guides and I am pretty sure Bethesda gets royalties for every guide sold. Anyone know if that is correct?

As for the rest of your post, I completely agree. In my opinion, Skyrim is dumbed down from Oblivion, which was dumbed down from Morrowind. The direction the series is heading, the next entry will be an action adventure with heart pieces.

 

[Savagezion]

-Snip-

I bet you didn't know you would get a badge on these forums for uninstalling Skyrim. ;P

 

[Duffeknol]

-Snip-

I bet you didn't know you would get a badge on these forums for uninstalling Skyrim. ;P

Already had one.

 

[BloodyThoughts]

Cool Story Bro.

...

What? That's honestly all I can say to this. OKAY, You uninstalled the game because you thought it was shit. So what? Who the fuck cares, honestly?

Not trying to be mean or anything, but why parade on about how you didn't like it and how you uninstalled it here? Sure, it's a matter of opinion, but honestly, do you think we care that you decided to uninstall it because it's not a good game in your opinion?

 

[Duffeknol]

do you think we care that you decided to uninstall it because it's not a good game in your opinion?

This thread is 12 pages.

 

[boag]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

 

[Epona]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

 

[boag]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

 

[Epona]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

Yes and reviewers should have been more honest about the bugs. Consumers can't buy politicians like the ESA can so the answer to the no demo, no returns problem for some is to download a full game trial.

 

[boag]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

Yes and reviewers should have been more honest about the bugs. Consumers can't buy politicians like the ESA can so the answer to the no demo, no returns problem for some is to download a full game trial.

To the no returns policy? yes

To the paying 60 dollars on release date? no

if you cant hold out and wait and just have to have it now, then you run the risk of getting scammed, and that is no ones fault but your own.

If you go to a restaurant and pay for a meal, and you dont enjoy the meal, then make it a point to never go to that restaurant again.

 

[Epona]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

Yes and reviewers should have been more honest about the bugs. Consumers can't buy politicians like the ESA can so the answer to the no demo, no returns problem for some is to download a full game trial.

To the no returns policy? yes

To the paying 60 dollars on release date? no

if you cant hold out and wait and just have to have it now, then you run the risk of getting scammed, and that is no ones fault but your own.

If you go to a restaurant and pay for a meal, and you dont enjoy the meal, then make it a point to never go to that restaurant again.

Crazy me, I thought if you scammed people, YOU were in the wrong. What WAS I thinking?

ETA: BTW, holding out and waiting wouldn't have helped if you were waiting for reviews, the reviewers weren't very honest either. How would one know by reviewers and watching videos, if the game will run on their PC. The specs for Oblivion weren't correct. I got burned on that one.

 

[boag]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

Yes and reviewers should have been more honest about the bugs. Consumers can't buy politicians like the ESA can so the answer to the no demo, no returns problem for some is to download a full game trial.

To the no returns policy? yes

To the paying 60 dollars on release date? no

if you cant hold out and wait and just have to have it now, then you run the risk of getting scammed, and that is no ones fault but your own.

If you go to a restaurant and pay for a meal, and you dont enjoy the meal, then make it a point to never go to that restaurant again.

Crazy me, I thought if you scammed people, YOU were in the wrong. What WAS I thinking?

ETA: BTW, holding out and waiting wouldn't have helped if you were waiting for reviews, the reviewers weren't very honest either. How would one know by reviewers and watching videos, if the game will run on their PC. The specs for Oblivion weren't correct. I got burned on that one.

Your assumption is "there is no way to know if this product is worth 60 dollars", the scammer is in the wrong for being a scammer, but you are also in the wrong for blindly following the scam.

If you got burned on Oblivion and still willingly gave money to Bethesda for another product as soon as it was released, then you learned nothing.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me.

 

[Epona]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

I would like to know why you kept playing a game you hated so much, I would like to know why you go out of your way to make these feelings known to this community.

I suggest you talk to friends and family about this issue you have, forcing yourself to do something that is clearly marked for enjoyment but doing it while you hate it, with as much disdain as you have posted on here seems to hint at a deeper problem.

I would hope you please go see someone about this problem soon.

Indeed there is a deeper problem, he can't his $60 back so he tries to get his moneys worth out of it. I feel the same way, I'd like to get my $60 back but the game industry has this scam going. No demo, no returns.

That indeed is a problem, but I am sure there are other venues to view the game aside from demos, renting watching lets plays which are high fashion these days, going over to a friends house to play it.

I will agree however that the no returns policy needs to be addressed, but until people start forming a group to lobby congress to take notice the scam will go on.

Yes and reviewers should have been more honest about the bugs. Consumers can't buy politicians like the ESA can so the answer to the no demo, no returns problem for some is to download a full game trial.

To the no returns policy? yes

To the paying 60 dollars on release date? no

if you cant hold out and wait and just have to have it now, then you run the risk of getting scammed, and that is no ones fault but your own.

If you go to a restaurant and pay for a meal, and you dont enjoy the meal, then make it a point to never go to that restaurant again.

Crazy me, I thought if you scammed people, YOU were in the wrong. What WAS I thinking?

ETA: BTW, holding out and waiting wouldn't have helped if you were waiting for reviews, the reviewers weren't very honest either. How would one know by reviewers and watching videos, if the game will run on their PC. The specs for Oblivion weren't correct. I got burned on that one.

Your assumption is "there is no way to know if this product is worth 60 dollars", the scammer is in the wrong for being a scammer, but you are also in the wrong for blindly following the scam.

If you got burned on Oblivion and still willingly gave money to Bethesda for another product as soon as it was released, then you learned nothing.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me.

Having been burned with Oblivion having inaccurate specs, I got the PS3 version. I even read that Bethesda said the PS3 runs just as well as the other versions. That was not true.

So....there we are.