I liked the ending to Mass Effect 3
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(Spoilers)Murmillos said:
I felt incredibly sad when I lost Legion and Eve (and I had only know her for what...a day or so). The ending reminded me of the movie Sunshine. I loved that movie because of the ending and I love this ending for the same reason. Like I said I picked the middle path, and to me personally, that was the best way I could have ended the game. I didn't want my Shep to survive and my interpretation of the game was the "child" at the end was kinda like well, God, and the reapers were like his "angels". When Shep jumped into the light she reached Nirvana. But like I said that's my view on it, not saying I'm right or anything.
And you are entitled to like it. I liked Dragon Age 2 but apparently few others did. Thing is when there is this much backlash against a developer there is at least a nugget of truth. The internet is a fickle beast and it is nearly impossible to get any sizable portion to agree on something yet it has happened here.
If you want to save people from spoilers type {spoiler}{/spoiler} around the text replacing the {} with [].Riki Darnell said:
Actually, control being paragon is more in line than people tend to give it credit for, given the available options at least[footnote]endtherapture said:
Though mind you, I find it abhorrent that Shepherd's only options are dictated to him by what the finale dictates is the Big Bad of the series, meaning that in retrospect no matter how you slice it the villain wins, which is made all the worse by the way the endings are divided, and that's ignoring the overwhelming similarity between the ending cinematics...
I actually like the ending for the same reason that so many hate it: that no matter what you do, even if you spent 100 hours in the game, some ends are simply unavoidable. They wait for us around every pass and corner. We assume that because our choices have consequences, that our consequences will somehow have priority over someone else's. Sometimes, someone outside of the story of our lives makes a decision that is just plain bigger than us, and the consequences of that decision end up being bigger than us, too.
Now, I want to make it clear: I totally understand and feel the rage of someone who spent a combined $180 or so on a game that doesn't end the way they hoped. I get that nihilism is soul-crushing, and that people don't want soul-crushing, let alone soul[crushing that they have to PAY for. I also think that the ending sequence should show more of the consequences of your actions from throughout the games as they stand at the time of Shepard's Final Decision.
That said, I think this is a step towards the long-fantasied dream of recognition of videogames by the larger culture as an artistic medium. The idea of a major game ending in a philosophical statement (even a statement that is essentially a giant metaphysical kick in the balls), is big, and a philosophical statement that gets people debating is even bigger.
This is a step on the path to art. I'm excited to see what comes of it.
Now, I want to make it clear: I totally understand and feel the rage of someone who spent a combined $180 or so on a game that doesn't end the way they hoped. I get that nihilism is soul-crushing, and that people don't want soul-crushing, let alone soul[crushing that they have to PAY for. I also think that the ending sequence should show more of the consequences of your actions from throughout the games as they stand at the time of Shepard's Final Decision.
That said, I think this is a step towards the long-fantasied dream of recognition of videogames by the larger culture as an artistic medium. The idea of a major game ending in a philosophical statement (even a statement that is essentially a giant metaphysical kick in the balls), is big, and a philosophical statement that gets people debating is even bigger.
This is a step on the path to art. I'm excited to see what comes of it.
Frankly all the hate has become so hyperbolic that I cant take it seriously anymore. Now if you don't mind I'm going to go back and enjoying playing it... again. Bad ass over here, somebody stop me!
How does it feel to be WRONG!!!!
I'm just kidding.
Anyways, I'm sure some people did. It was very macabre, just the problem was that it had no place being macabre. Basically it just wasn't a happy ending, and the average Mass Effect player was kind of banking on a happy ending. Like the Matrix, except people had a much bigger connection to the games.
Oh... And it kind of didn't make too much sense. That sort of was a problem as well.
edit: I feel like I'm shitting out fire right now. Dear God, someone save me.
I'm just kidding.
Anyways, I'm sure some people did. It was very macabre, just the problem was that it had no place being macabre. Basically it just wasn't a happy ending, and the average Mass Effect player was kind of banking on a happy ending. Like the Matrix, except people had a much bigger connection to the games.
Oh... And it kind of didn't make too much sense. That sort of was a problem as well.
edit: I feel like I'm shitting out fire right now. Dear God, someone save me.
I guess sure, being told one thing about the ending and how it'd tie up three games and instead being delivered something else was fine after all!
Of course, I haven't played it, so what do I know, maybe catharsis is overrated.
Of course, I haven't played it, so what do I know, maybe catharsis is overrated.
That's good, OP. I'm glad. It's great to enjoy things. Being happy is spectacular.
Now, move on to the next game on your mind. Spare yourself the heartache.
Worth it, though.
Now, move on to the next game on your mind. Spare yourself the heartache.
Me too! But it's because of all the hot wings (and I do mean HOT) I had last night.JoesshittyOs said:
Worth it, though.
JackandTom said:
[HEADING=2]You Monster.[/HEADING]
But with all seriousness, I can see how the endings could work for some people. However, because they are filled with plot holes, lack sense if you think about them, came out of nowhere, lacked closure, and go against everything we were promised in the months before release, I hope you understand why others are extremely upset about the endings. Admittedly, there are a number of people who are going WAY too far with their reactions.
and this
To me, it depends if the indoctrination theory is correct or not. If it is true, then the whole thing is one of the best moments in gaming that I've ever experienced. If it isn't, and that was really supposed to be the true ending, then it's pretty much a kick in the teeth for me. Kinda strange that it can be either one of those two polar opposites, but that's where I stand on the issue.
Nice flame shield. I didn't hate it, I just want some things fucking explained. Also the idea of "taking back mass effect" seems kinda arrogant
Except that most of the squad mate stuff was dealt with in game before the final assualt. I liked the ending yet I was heartbroken at the way Mordin died curing the genophage. Having him volunteering to go up the Shroud and have an explosion cut him off and kill him mid singing left me sad inside. That has nothing to do with the ending.Murmillos said:
i liked the ending.
but i shot the thing
thats an excellent ending for me , i was tired and bloody people were still dying and i didn't know what to do. so i shot the thing for better or worse i shot it not knowing what kind of world i'd create it.
that doesn't sound bad.
i imagine shepard didn't make it off the citadel though
but i shot the thing
thats an excellent ending for me , i was tired and bloody people were still dying and i didn't know what to do. so i shot the thing for better or worse i shot it not knowing what kind of world i'd create it.
that doesn't sound bad.
i imagine shepard didn't make it off the citadel though
Oh my god, I loved the end of The Dark Tower. Best twist ending ever.Sober Thal said:
I was actually expecting the room at the top of the tower to be empty, the door swings shut behind him, locking him in. But having to relive everything until he gets the journey right? I thought it was genius.
OT: Good! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Just so long as you realize that my hatred of the ending is just as valid.
Honestly, I envy you. I don't hate Mass Effect 3 at all, and even after the ending, I wasn't mad at the game, just disappointed in it. It just felt like such a lazy way to end such a story-driven experience, one that didn't reflect the series in any way, and one which especially doesn't reflect the quality people have come to expect from Bioware.
In the end, I had to remind myself of the old saying "sometimes the journey is more important than the destination," and even though I disliked Mass Effect 3's ending, I still had a lot of fun playing it. And at least some of us like the ending.
In the end, I had to remind myself of the old saying "sometimes the journey is more important than the destination," and even though I disliked Mass Effect 3's ending, I still had a lot of fun playing it. And at least some of us like the ending.
I didn't hate the ending.
I nothing it. And that's why I'm so frustrated. It's like BioWare flashing up in my face "YOU SHOULD LIKE THIS, THIS IS EMOTIONAL DRAMATIC STUFFZ!" and I'm like..."Well...No."
I'm glad you like the ending. Some people like the Twilight things *shrugs* It's okiie to be wrong.
I nothing it. And that's why I'm so frustrated. It's like BioWare flashing up in my face "YOU SHOULD LIKE THIS, THIS IS EMOTIONAL DRAMATIC STUFFZ!" and I'm like..."Well...No."
I'm glad you like the ending. Some people like the Twilight things *shrugs* It's okiie to be wrong.
I only read the first Dark Tower book (it got too Christian preachy) but it had a sense of hopelessness expressed in the books so I would expect a sad end in it and even if there wasn't a twist done well would be good.wintercoat said:
The problem with ME3's ending is the previous games we've been fighting to bring hope to the galaxy. through each game the threat has escalated from 1 repaer to another that abducts humans to create another reaper than finally the invasion.
The 1st 2 games the threat was beaten back and in the 2nd game your Shepard could have died, and in some of my play throughs he did, and their was no public outcry over that. Finally in the last game people have done a lot to get the entire galactic population to fight against the threat and then at the very end it is a big f**k you, your resources and military strength mean nothing, now these are your choices a, b or c.