Results of the poll aside, please make sure that you understand the difference between "innovator" and "inventor" before bashing the 'unwashed masses' and their education.
Is Steve Jobs the 2nd Greatest Innovator of All Time?
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This. So much this. I cannot believe this poll. The creator is an idiot and a creaton.BlackStar42 said:
Well, he made it so we can listen to music on the go and with more customization then ever and Marie Curie was the first to win two fucking Nobels.
Seriously, can I get a what the fuck, oh my brothers?
When I saw it, I thought "This smacks of young techie kids" and lo-and-behold, it the pollees are MIT kids.
Seriously, can I get a what the fuck, oh my brothers?
Very good point. If we are going to go modern, where are all the other open source people like Stallman or Torvalds? Or hows about the various individuals like Vint Cerf or Tim Burners-Lee, people who basically invented modern day Internet? Hell, there are scores of others that were the precursors to all of Apple's bulldink and they are now all but forgotten, now that Jobs has kicked it.Dexter111 said:
When I saw it, I thought "This smacks of young techie kids" and lo-and-behold, it the pollees are MIT kids.
No Leonardo Da Vinci????The inventor of most of the first recorded concepts of Earth-shaping technologies like the aeroplane and the automobile?
The most far ahead of his time of anyone in history got beaten by Zuckerberg, a guy who made a slightly better version of an idea that's been around since the internet went public, Jobs, who headed a company that made things more efficient and flashy, but did little in the way of inventing things himself, Bell, who made Antonio Meucci's telephone more practical, and Thomas Edison, a man who stole from, stepped on, bullied, and bought out EVERYONE he worked with, including the brilliant Nikola Tesla and Heinrich Goebel?
No to this study.
Da Vinci should at least be there.
The most far ahead of his time of anyone in history got beaten by Zuckerberg, a guy who made a slightly better version of an idea that's been around since the internet went public, Jobs, who headed a company that made things more efficient and flashy, but did little in the way of inventing things himself, Bell, who made Antonio Meucci's telephone more practical, and Thomas Edison, a man who stole from, stepped on, bullied, and bought out EVERYONE he worked with, including the brilliant Nikola Tesla and Heinrich Goebel?
No to this study.
Da Vinci should at least be there.
First of all never ever trust polls, too many people who have no idea what they are talking about participate.
Second, Jobs wasn't so much an innovator as he was a good marketer. Apple Pc's are seen as trendy and cool despite being inferior to regular PC's in near every way. Also they dont support flash WTH? He made them marketable and thats what really counts in the end
Second, Jobs wasn't so much an innovator as he was a good marketer. Apple Pc's are seen as trendy and cool despite being inferior to regular PC's in near every way. Also they dont support flash WTH? He made them marketable and thats what really counts in the end
Edwin Land pretty much is Steve Jobs and Woz in one person. Steve Jobs pretty much stole Land's life even down to the part were he got booted from the company he founded. I know Land had a hell of a lot of patents (from work he actually did unlike Edison), is he second in number of patents held?The_root_of_all_evil said:
No disrespect to the guy, but he has no right being anywhere near that list. He was a charismatic CEO and salesman at best, not an innovator.
Seriously...I saw that and this whole poll automatically gets tossed out the window. Zuckerberg is on there? Come on now...Waaghpowa said:
You don't have to invent something to be an innovator. Jobs defiantly proved that.
Also seriously no Tesla. He made WAY more important contributions to science than Edison ever did. Edison didn't even invent the lightbulb, he just improved the design and seemingly got all the credit.
Not to mention Edison viciously attacked and discredited Tesla, did everything to damage his reputation.
Sad that the students of MIT made no recognizable recognition of him. It's supposed to be a smart school but I guess they don't teach much history there.
Also seriously no Tesla. He made WAY more important contributions to science than Edison ever did. Edison didn't even invent the lightbulb, he just improved the design and seemingly got all the credit.
Not to mention Edison viciously attacked and discredited Tesla, did everything to damage his reputation.
Sad that the students of MIT made no recognizable recognition of him. It's supposed to be a smart school but I guess they don't teach much history there.
Because it isn't about the 'greatest innovator of all time' it's about the innovators who made things (or are believed by the majority to have made things) that are extremely popular. Calling an iPod an overpriced mp3 is actually demeaning what I think is one of my most used and most enjoyed devices that I have ever owned ever. That is a pretty huge thing for me and for most others as well. I only have heard of the popular innovators like everyone else. I have never heard of either of the two you offered. People shouldn't expect everyone to know information that isn't general taught at basic education levels.BlackStar42 said:
Jobs might be one of the greatest marketers of all time, but I wouldn't call him particularly innovative.
Thomas Edison? The guy who wanted to power the world with direct current? Did he forget about Nikola Tesla or is he one of those dumb patriots who only counts American born inventors? Tesla found a way to utilize alternating current so that it can be used by everyone, and that is what we are still using to this day, not Edison's direct current. And yes, he ripped of Tesla. Edison was a technology killer. Most of his patents were bought or stolen. People still think he invented the light bulb. He didn't. That was Joseph Swan.
As for Steve Jobs, he does not deserve to be on any list of important innovators. He was a marketing genius, but his products suck.
Zuckeberg, really? It seems like the title of greatest innovators is given to those who earned a lot of money, not to those whose innovations changed the world. Facebook didn't change the world. With or without Facebook this world would be the same. The only thing that would be different is that Mark Zuckeberg wouldn't be rich.
As for Steve Jobs, he does not deserve to be on any list of important innovators. He was a marketing genius, but his products suck.
Zuckeberg, really? It seems like the title of greatest innovators is given to those who earned a lot of money, not to those whose innovations changed the world. Facebook didn't change the world. With or without Facebook this world would be the same. The only thing that would be different is that Mark Zuckeberg wouldn't be rich.