Is Steve Jobs the 2nd Greatest Innovator of All Time?

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JokerboyJordan said:
BlackStar42 said:
OK, that's just depressing. The winner is a thief who stole everything from Tesla and invented the goddamned electric chair as a marketing device. If this is for the greatest innovator of all time, why not Alan Turing or Tim Berners-Lee? I'd say what they did ranks far, far higher than making an overpriced mp3 player.
I absolutely agree with you, there are far, far, more deserving people on should be on that list.

But alas, America.
Yeah, I didn't like it, either. I voted against it at the last AA meeting. That would be Americans Anonymous, where every single American citizen gets together to decide what we think is OK to show to the public and what isn't. I thought this list was pretty stupid, but since the majority of all Americans OK'd it, it was put on the internet. Which is why it's totally OK to blame my entire country for every single stupid little thing to come out of it's borders.
 

Radelaide

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Innovation is a little much.

There were smart phones, tablets, computers around before Jobs. All he did was market them.
 

Trippy Turtle

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What has Facebook or or Apple ever done to make much of a difference? They will be as dead as Myspace sooner or later.
I would have gone with Edison because he is the only one I know that made an actual difference. I don't know about the rest of the older people on there but I have heard their names before.
 

Casual Shinji

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What the Christ did Amelia Earhart invent; The female pilot? Positive sexism much? Where the hell is Charles Lindbergh?

They might as well put Tankman on that list. I mean, why not!?

[sub]Damn all these question marks![/sub]
 

The Code

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Jobs was this era's Tesla
I will say virtually nothing about this line, as I'd most likely get banned for whatever I say. Tesla was the God of Lightning made flesh. Jobs was [The rest of this sentence has been censored to prevent a vicious slam of the Almighty Banhammer.]

I will say, however, that Jobs was the technology industry's version of Billy Mayes. The guy was an excellent salesman and was known by millions for selling good quality products to all. All he came up with for Apple products was the minimalist design. The tech behind it was almost entirely Wozniak's doing.

What frightens me the most is that Gutenberg, the man that invented the printing press and thus inventing modern books, isn't on that list. The lack of intelligence I see on a daily basis disgusts me.

Farnsworth was right. I don't want to live on this planet anymore either.
 
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octafish said:
Edwin Land pretty much is Steve Jobs and Woz in one person. Steve Jobs pretty much stole Land's life even down to the part were he got booted from the company he founded. I know Land had a hell of a lot of patents (from work he actually did unlike Edison), is he second in number of patents held?
Land got 444; Jerome Lemelson got 606

http://invention.smithsonian.org/about/about_patents.aspx

Steve Jobs? 323



Real "innovative" there Steve.
 

teebeeohh

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wasn't jobs rather the worlds greatest enabler? he didn't invent stuff himself but the made it possible for the actual tech guys to build it and then sold it to us at ridiculous prices.

also, why is zuckerburg on there but Zuse isn't? the guy invented the computer
 

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A Free Man said:
Because it isn't about the 'greatest innovator of all time' it's about the innovators who made things (or are believed by the majority to have made things) that are extremely popular. Calling an iPod an overpriced mp3 is actually demeaning what I think is one of my most used and most enjoyed devices that I have ever owned ever.
Alternating current in a way we use it today is a bit more popular than an iPod in my humble opinion. People take electricity for granted. It's depressing.
 

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Every iPod I've ever owned has broken for no apparent reason after three years, without fail.

Apple do not make good products. This poll disappoints me.
 
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A Free Man said:
Calling an iPod an overpriced mp3 is actually demeaning what I think is one of my most used and most enjoyed devices that I have ever owned ever.
That's what it is though. Equally, the Bible is just a book. Equally, Yahtzee is just a guy with a sweet hat.
That is a pretty huge thing for me and for most others as well.
It shouldn't be. Your first kiss, the death of a loved one, moving out should be a huge thing. Not a freaking toy.

I have never heard of either of the two you offered. People shouldn't expect everyone to know information that isn't general taught at basic education levels.
People should be willing to learn after basic education levels. That's why they're called basic.

It's not the "Innovators that you've heard of", it's "Greatest Innovators of all Time". That means you should at least put some effort into researching Innovators before your time, rather than cradling your overpriced MP3 player.

Seriously, you have no idea how angry that comment made me.
 

Togusa09

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So are these surveys from the same sample groups they use to find out that there are people who don't know the difference between the solar system and the galaxy?

As you can tell from a random sampling of a public comments section, open surveys only tell about a public perception, often from people with no knowledge of the relevant areas.

And reps to BlackStar42 - Tesla FTW.
 

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leonardo da vinci
archimedes
charles babbage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine

^not in the list of inventors/innovaters. makes me incredibly sad...
 

FamoFunk

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Steve Jobs? Mark Zuckerberg? Seriously, who are these 16-25 year olds they find to survey?
 

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Tempted to leave it at that, but seriously... The problem with user-voted lists like this is what the average person is not very smart... Of course STEVE JOBS is one of the most innovative people they know. For about 50% of people who voted on him I'd guess it was the only name on the list they even knew.

Where are people like Nikola Tesla and Da Vinci that were not only geniuses and great inventors in their own time, but ages ahead. TESLA DID THINGS WE STILL CAN'T REPLICATE!

Jobs was brilliant at marketing. He was shit at pretty much everything else.

And I'm not even going to dignify the survey designer's ignorant comments...

Augh... people...