Is this how we should handle Dick Pics?

[Lightknight]

Did they strike you as particularly young?

They were in their early to mid 20's yes, what I would consider prime single dating bracket. And the one woman, who wasn't surprised by the dick pic, was very...well, there isn't any way to say this politely, though I personally don't have any issue with her doing it itself. She was a gold digger. She expressly told me on multiple occasions that she had hooked up with men for financial gain. And she had multiple men that she did this with to help her budget. She wasn't a prostitute (though honestly I wouldn't have an issue with her even if she was), but a key factor in whether or not she would get into a relationship with a man, was how much money he could bring to the table. And she would...get explicit when we first worked together, about her dates. I got the point across that I really didn't want to know the graphic details of her sex life, but she would still tell me about her exploits in the broad sense. So for her, given what she was mostly looking for in her relationships (financial provisions), I guess she's expecting it to be more likely? *shrugs* Again, I don't really care that she did this, as I think there are far worse things to do with money than to have sex, and it frankly didn't impact her work at my place of employment, so who fucking cares?

The woman who received the dick pic in this story, wasn't as sexually open, but she would comment about things every now and then. For example, she wore a scarf for several days in a row, and it was sort of odd for her, fashion wise. So I asked her why she was rocking the scarf that week. And she pulled it down to show me a significant hickey on her neck. And commented about how annoyed she was with the guy, after specifically telling him not to do that. I found it amusing to be honest, and fairly benign.

But in both cases, they seemed to expect them as par for the course. Though I think the second woman was expecting those after probably initiating sexual advances? Not "hey girl, you gave me your number last night, so I thought I'd send you my dick" kind of thing. More likely the "hey baby, i'm feeling hot right now, send me a vid of you stroking" after they've been dating for a few weeks/months/whatever her rate of advancement is. The former is something I find fairly distasteful on the part of the sender, the latter is perfectly fine.

It's really bizarre. I wonder if this is tied to specific demographics or social circles or if this is becoming the norm.

 

[PainInTheAssInternet]

Dick pics in and of themselves aren't a big deal, just like tit pics, or vagina pics aren't either. The act itself devoid of any malice. If the person is sending them unsolicited, that's a different story.

I didn't specify unsolicited, but that was my point.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I think runic knight's main point was, given how easy it is to spoof technology, simply relying on civilians to police themselves, and dole out their own form of judgement and punishment, could lead to abuse of the system. A person doesn't like another person? They could spoof a dick pic, and accuse them of it. And in the social court, the person is guilty, no matter what evidence says to the contrary. Mind you, I think this is probably an incredibly slim chance, compared to the likelihood of it being a legit dick pic case.

The only way to prove you didn't send the dick pic would be sending your own dick pic. I really want to say 'Dickception!' here, but I'm certain that doesn't apply.

I am sure their girlfriend or wife would know if it was their dick or not. Dicks do not all look the same. XD

 

[The Lunatic]

Can you not tell the difference between two people who are intimate sharing pictures of themselves and sending a stranger an unsolicited dick pic? Do you think those two scenarios are basically the same?

Can you tell me the difference between those two situations purely based on the image of a penis?

Because, I can't, and given revenge porn is illegal, I imagine it's pretty difficult for any justice system to so too. So, how about "Don't send naked images of people to other people without their consent"?

 

[happyninja42]

Did they strike you as particularly young?

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It's really bizarre. I wonder if this is tied to specific demographics or social circles or if this is becoming the norm.

I dunno, I commented as such in my initial post, but I have no idea. Seeing as I'm 39, married, and not in the dating market, I can't really comment what is normal protocol with the young kids in the dating circuit. But when I was still dating, sexting was fairly common, but, at least for me, I waited until the mutual sexual attraction was established before we started sending clips back and forth. I sure as hell never opened with that when first meeting a woman, though how long I would wait would depend on how quickly she was wanting to get to the sexy-time. Some of the girls I dated were quite happy to get to that stage very early on, others, not so much. But once they were like "yep, send me that pic", it was on.

Dick pics in and of themselves aren't a big deal, just like tit pics, or vagina pics aren't either. The act itself devoid of any malice. If the person is sending them unsolicited, that's a different story.

I didn't specify unsolicited, but that was my point.

Just wanted to clarify, your wording seemed to be speaking to the broader act entirely.

 

[happyninja42]

Can you not tell the difference between two people who are intimate sharing pictures of themselves and sending a stranger an unsolicited dick pic? Do you think those two scenarios are basically the same?

Can you tell me the difference between those two situations purely based on the image of a penis?

Because, I can't, and given revenge porn is illegal, I imagine it's pretty difficult for any justice system to so too. So, how about "Don't send naked images of people to other people without their consent"?

Fair point, as this form of retaliation isn't exactly like "Telling people that someone flashed me", it's more, grabbing the guy who's flashing you, and then turning him around to a public and saying "HEY! LOOK! He showed me his penis! Look at it! This is what he showed me!" Which, you know, they might not have wanted to see said penis, just because you felt justified in showing it to them as a form of payback.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Can you not tell the difference between two people who are intimate sharing pictures of themselves and sending a stranger an unsolicited dick pic? Do you think those two scenarios are basically the same?

Can you tell me the difference between those two situations purely based on the image of a penis?

Because, I can't, and given revenge porn is illegal, I imagine it's pretty difficult for any justice system to so too. So, how about "Don't send naked images of people to other people without their consent"?

It is considered " cyber flashing", however sending dick pics via snail mail was covered under federal obscenity laws. The difference between the guy sending a dick pic to someone without their consent, and then that person who received it taking that same picture and sending it to someone else as " proof" this is what they did, is that one is being used as evidence to verify that this was what was done to them.

If the original sender did not get consent from the person they sent it to, the person they sent it to should not need the original sender's consent to use that photo as evidence. It should be treated as "cyber flashing":

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33889225

The public should be made aware that this person did such things, as with any other crime, and this includes their spouse, parents, neighbors, coworkers, employer... If they don't want people to know about it, they should not be doing this in the first place.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Can you not tell the difference between two people who are intimate sharing pictures of themselves and sending a stranger an unsolicited dick pic? Do you think those two scenarios are basically the same?

Can you tell me the difference between those two situations purely based on the image of a penis?

Because, I can't, and given revenge porn is illegal, I imagine it's pretty difficult for any justice system to so too. So, how about "Don't send naked images of people to other people without their consent"?

Fair point, as this form of retaliation isn't exactly like "Telling people that someone flashed me", it's more, grabbing the guy who's flashing you, and then turning him around to a public and saying "HEY! LOOK! He showed me his penis! Look at it! This is what he showed me!" Which, you know, they might not have wanted to see said penis, just because you felt justified in showing it to them as a form of payback.

I thought the article said she didn't do that... that she gave them the option to view the evidence however if they choose to. Which is different than forcing it upon them as was done to her.

 

[omega 616]

I'm a little conflicted on this.

You're job is to look sexy, to be honest I class you about the same as a prostitute ... you're selling your body for cash, at least hookers have to have some skill. You can be as dumb as bricks, as long as you continue to look sexy, you have a job.

Men find that erotic and if you think for one second that men aren't fapping over you, you're too naive.

On the other hand, what the fuck is wrong with these men. This women like to show skin, so I'll show her my skin (I really wanted to type "fore" there but I restrained my self). She will like that!".

They shouldn't be sending dick pics! Is the only reason flashing isn't more common is 'cos you can be arrested for it? 'cos this seems to support that idea.

 

[happyninja42]

Can you not tell the difference between two people who are intimate sharing pictures of themselves and sending a stranger an unsolicited dick pic? Do you think those two scenarios are basically the same?

Can you tell me the difference between those two situations purely based on the image of a penis?

Because, I can't, and given revenge porn is illegal, I imagine it's pretty difficult for any justice system to so too. So, how about "Don't send naked images of people to other people without their consent"?

Fair point, as this form of retaliation isn't exactly like "Telling people that someone flashed me", it's more, grabbing the guy who's flashing you, and then turning him around to a public and saying "HEY! LOOK! He showed me his penis! Look at it! This is what he showed me!" Which, you know, they might not have wanted to see said penis, just because you felt justified in showing it to them as a form of payback.

I thought the article said she didn't do that... that she gave them the option to view the evidence however if they choose to. Which is different than forcing it upon them as was done to her.

Ah, did it? Well that's different. I was mostly responding to the flow of the conversation, not the article itself. As most people were simply debating the ethical nature of sending out pics to other people, as retaliation to being dick pic'd yourself. If she's at least putting up a warning, then I have no real issue with this, other than the fact that this is something for the authorities, and not sending it towards the legal agencies, is only going to make it take longer to get it acted on. If she's living in an area where it's not against the law, I still think the authorities should be involved. If only to establish a precedence of the problem. "Hey chief, look, we're getting like 3000 dick pic complaints a month, we really need to do something about this. The air is full of dicks flying back and forth! It's like a dickpocalypse out there!" and maybe then the various legal agencies would take it more seriously, and pass laws.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I'm a little conflicted on this.

You're job is to look sexy, to be honest I class you about the same as a prostitute ... you're selling your body for cash, at least hookers have to have some skill. You can be as dumb as bricks, as long as you continue to look sexy, you have a job.

Men find that erotic and if you think for one second that men aren't fapping over you, you're too naive.

On the other hand, what the fuck is wrong with these men. This women like to show skin, so I'll show her my skin (I really wanted to type "fore" there but I restrained my self). She will like that!".

They shouldn't be sending dick pics! Is the only reason flashing isn't more common is 'cos you can be arrested for it? 'cos this seems to support that idea.

Model =\= having sex. Model =\= prostitute. We have all types of models... male, female, children, elderly.. that in no way makes them prostitutes. Being paid to have sex and being paid to have your picture taken is not the same thing at all, and I have difficulty understanding how anyone could compare the two. In fact, Prostitutes do not even have to " look attractive" to have sex for money. People pay for unattractive prostitutes all the time...

 

[renegade7]

How does one get in position to be sent dick picks anyway?

Step 1.) Sign up for any online dating platform with a female user name.
Step 2.) Wait.
Step 3.) Dicks.

 

[omega 616]

I'm a little conflicted on this.

You're job is to look sexy, to be honest I class you about the same as a prostitute ... you're selling your body for cash, at least hookers have to have some skill. You can be as dumb as bricks, as long as you continue to look sexy, you have a job.

Men find that erotic and if you think for one second that men aren't fapping over you, you're too naive.

On the other hand, what the fuck is wrong with these men. This women like to show skin, so I'll show her my skin (I really wanted to type "fore" there but I restrained my self). She will like that!".

They shouldn't be sending dick pics! Is the only reason flashing isn't more common is 'cos you can be arrested for it? 'cos this seems to support that idea.

Model =\= having sex. Model =\= prostitute. We have all types of models... male, female, children, elderly.. that in no way makes them prostitutes. Being paid to have sex and being paid to have your picture taken is not the same thing at all, and I have difficulty understanding how anyone could compare the two. In fact, Prostitutes do not even have to " look attractive" to have sex for money. People pay for unattractive prostitutes all the time...

you're selling your body for cash

That is what I meant by it ... one does it for sex and the other (in this case) is doing it for sex appeal.

 

[Bilious Green_v1legacy]

I can't help feeling there's a bit of a double standard at play here. If a woman sent a man a naked picture and he sent it to her father, I expect the man would be ridiculed for being a misogynist creep. If it's wrong for a man to do, why is it okay for a woman to do it to a man? Surely it's wrong to do this irrespective of the genders of the parties involved? While I get the intent (humiliation can be a powerful tool in altering behaviour), I find myself troubled by the lack of consistency in responses.

Also, from what I understand, many jurisdiction are now introducing laws that make it an offence to retransmit a naked image sent to you by another person without their consent (to prevent revenge porn, blackmail, etc.), so surely this type of behaviour would run afoul of such laws in many places.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I can't help feeling there's a bit of a double standard at play here. If a woman sent a man a naked picture and he sent it to her father, I expect the man would be ridiculed for being a misogynist creep. If it's wrong for a man to do, why is it okay for a woman to do it to a man? Surely it's wrong to do this irrespective of the genders of the parties involved? While I get the intent (humiliation can be a powerful tool in altering behaviour), I find myself troubled by the lack of consistency in responses.

It's only a double standard if we actually have the other thing to measure.

Right now it's a "what if" based on an "I expect".

 

[Kuala BangoDango]

What turns on a woman is confidence, personality and possibly good looks. Not a photo of a reproductive organ.

You forgot the 3 most important things...power, a big bank account, and the guy's popularity with other ladies.

 

[the December King]

I can't help feeling there's a bit of a double standard at play here. If a woman sent a man a naked picture and he sent it to her father, I expect the man would be ridiculed for being a misogynist creep. If it's wrong for a man to do, why is it okay for a woman to do it to a man? Surely it's wrong to do this irrespective of the genders of the parties involved? While I get the intent (humiliation can be a powerful tool in altering behaviour), I find myself troubled by the lack of consistency in responses.

It's only a double standard if we actually have the other thing to measure.

Right now it's a "what if" based on an "I expect".

No, a quick look at the news does show that women send unsolicited sexual pics, just not nearly as often as men.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/edward-snowden-plagued-with-unsolicited-nude-photos-of-women/

This article really seems to sum it up quite nicely:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2015/12/01/when-women-send-unsolicited-naked-pictures-it-isnt-revenge-its-harassment/

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I can't help feeling there's a bit of a double standard at play here. If a woman sent a man a naked picture and he sent it to her father, I expect the man would be ridiculed for being a misogynist creep. If it's wrong for a man to do, why is it okay for a woman to do it to a man? Surely it's wrong to do this irrespective of the genders of the parties involved? While I get the intent (humiliation can be a powerful tool in altering behaviour), I find myself troubled by the lack of consistency in responses.

It's only a double standard if we actually have the other thing to measure.

Right now it's a "what if" based on an "I expect".

No, a quick look at the news does show that women send unsolicited sexual pics, just not nearly as often as men.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/edward-snowden-plagued-with-unsolicited-nude-photos-of-women/

This article really seems to sum it up quite nicely:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2015/12/01/when-women-send-unsolicited-naked-pictures-it-isnt-revenge-its-harassment/

So where's the double standard? The post article was saying "sending unsolicited vulva pics is a bad, don't do that, it's like sending a dick pic."

 

[Gengisgame]

This woman is some random stranger on the internet and this story makes for a feel good against harassment whether it's true or not but in no way is this a good idea.

Picture it likes this, would you want your friends or relatives trying to try and track down strangers who send them abuse? of course you wouldn't, if it's bad block, if it's really bad phone the police but more importantly try to avoid putting your real self out on sites beyond ones where you control who talks to you.

If this woman is real she probably got a lot more crap after this article, people will see this as a challenge.

 

[DementedSheep]

It's also really stupid, as it's only one small step from your phone to the internet as a whole. It's so easy for a phone or computer to be hacked and for potentially embarrassing photos to be leaked, it's just better to never take them in the first place. A good rule of thumb is to never have anything you don't want the entire world to see on a device connected to the internet.

That is a pretty insane way of thinking. I am not supposed to take some sexy pics for my SO because there is some kind of miniscule chance that they end up online?
Nonsense. Nobody is "hacking" my phone or my computer. The fact that you think "hackers" are on the prowl for John Does dick pics means you haven't the slightest idea about what is going on.

The way shit you take (pics or video alike) end up on the Internet is if your SO leaks it. It isn't because of any "hacker" browsing your "Nude Pics" folder on your desktop.

"That's an insane way of thinking!"
"I'm not gonna let the assholes win!"

-Jennifer Lawrence probably

Seriously, having your picture taken nude, or even your nude PORTRAIT PAINTED has a rich history of "leaking". If you're so young that you don't know that yet, take the scholarly route instead of the tradesman's, you'd regret the latter.

By the way, you scoff at "hackers" being "on the prowl for John Does dick pick", but... you remember the huge hack and dump of Snapchat? That was like... 85% John Doe dick.

Jennifer Lawrence is not a random John Doe. Jennifer Lawrence is an actor people obsess over.

You'll get a lot more mileage out of things if you read to the end.

I have no interest in looking at a snapchat dump of dicks but how many of those where from hacking some random unimportant persons stuff to find them rather than from the fuckwits who send dick picks to women they don't know?