Is this morally bad?

[IamLEAM1983]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

That is actually pretty short-sighted.

You're making it sound like war is just another Call of Duty session with your buds. It's not. People die. There's no respawn rate, and even being nicked by bits of shrapnel can be dangerous. You wouldn't be downing NPCs for the sake of a scoreboard, you'd be killing people. People with hopes, dreams, families and convictions that, sadly, just don't match ours.

I'll confess, I have zero experience in combat. I don't personally know war veterans, but I've also been taught not to glorify violence. "Blowing shit up" for its own sake is the sort of stuff that makes most people's heads turn in the real world, and not in a good way.

You're probably not going to agree, which wouldn't be surprising, but I'd say you need to reconsider not just your enlistment, but also your reasons for it. If you're serious about it and want to do it for these specific reasons... I'm more than a little worried.

What's to say you won't come back from your tour of duty, bemoan that your Rambo trip is over, and think about blowing shit up on your home turf?

Because that will more than certainly get you convicted and imprisoned.

 

[irishmanwithagun]

I am half joking you do relies?

True point, I really think civilization is falling apart, I really wish I was born 100 years ago >.>

I'm curious as to why you'd think civilisation is getting worse.

 

[irishmanwithagun]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

That is very childish. Sounds more like a kid who wants to play CoD in real life.

Get a Psych eval first.

Sadly he'd probably still get in.

 

[Dr Hammer]

Lot's of veterans admit that even though they know killing is morally wrong there is a weird thrill from being in combat. I expect there's even more that don't admit they enjoyed it.

It's one of the strange vagaries of the human condition - while you were in the worst of all possible worlds you were having the time of your life.

A note of caution to the OP though - reality and fantasy rarely match.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I am half joking you do relies?

True point, I really think civilization is falling apart, I really wish I was born 100 years ago >.>

Your wording really does scare me. Civilization isn't falling apart - it's changing. The same way it's always been changing. Conservative philosophies like to imagine there were halcyon days where everything was fine and dandy, where the youth respected its elders, where Concord spread across the land like some sort of great boon and all - but that's never actually happened.

A hundred years ago, Russia was on the brink of tearing itself apart from the inside out. A hundred years ago, people died of things we laugh at, nowadays. A hundred years ago, wars lasted not for fast and intense weeks or months, but for years on end. Battlefields were freaking charnel houses by the time the fighting was over. The winter theatre for World War I was a freaking disaster, so much so that some French and Germans decided to fuck it all over Christmas and have a common celebration - for the sake of common peace.

There's never been a time in History that's beaten today's era for the chances each and every human has at having a safe and productive life. The opportunities for that aren't equal, not by a long shot, and that's one thing we'll have to work pretty hard to solve - but the gist is there. Most of us in the First World have just about zero understanding of what it means to truly be in pain, to honestly suffer. We're sheltered and privileged for it.

If you're seriously of the mind that you'd rather risk the loss of life and limb for the sake of feeling awesome about yourself, you're in need of a reality check.

 

[Treblaine]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

Tis natural for young men to go though such a phase.

But I suggest you do this virtually with violent video games and the urges to kill will eventually pass.

Realise that going to war you will more often end up on the receiving end, enemies these days don't play "fair" it's all booby traps and posing as civilians with suicide bombs and snipers. To commit to a life in the army you need to be motivated by love for your country and it's cause, but by a killjoy though an urge to kill may make it easier.

Soldiers today need a cool head and steely resolve. You need to be like an executioner or a surgeon. It's not like Iwo Jima with constant dedicated warfare where it's clear where the fight is and who the enemy is, this is more like an old-west sheriff against murderous bandits. You're going to be dealing with civilians WAY WAY MORE than with armed enemy combatants, but some of those posing as civilians will be plotting to kill you yet the army DOES NOT NEED SOLDIERS KILLING CIVILIANS!

I suggest becoming a boxer or some other martial arts sportsman if your passion is beating people, you'll know where your fight is and get it out of your system... and a good coach will get you to focus your energies for in the ring and not in day to day life where being violent will be an impediment.

 

[Bvenged]

Yeah it's pretty morally bad for your reasons, but there are other reasons that are more justifiable, such as: protecting people; neutralising hostile threats; hunting down war criminals; etc. Why can't you join up with the UFC or something if you just want to feed your bloodlust?

Going to war on a whim might sound like a good idea to you, but the idea of shooting people will seem less good if you get shot or blown up first.

One documentary I saw about Afghanistan showed a brave 18 year old lad get shot by a taliban sniper immediately when his patrol broke through a field of tall grass they had to pass through. It was his very first patrol and he was dead before he hit the floor. Sadly he didn't stand a chance. It was very disturbing to watch and I can't imagine what it was like for his family, friends and fellow colleagues. Most of these troops' reasons for going to war are respectful and jsutifiable, but yours are not.

Hell, if recruiters asked you "why do you want to sign up to teh military" (which they do), and you told them that, they'd more than likely turn you away.

 

[SaetonChapelle]

Killing for the sake of killing is morally wrong. Thank god you're joining the actual military for this, course then you actually have to think about your enemy. A buddy of mine aid the same thing, and when the actual event occurred and he DID have to kill someone, well, it's not an easy thing to do. It's not like video games, it's not like movies or books. I hear a lot of people, usually young people, who are really super macho about such actions, but when are faced with the reality of death, suddenly realize it's not what they originally believed. He still wonders about the men he murdered, if they were like him, had a family, joined for reasons other then "urge to murder".

Course who knows, you could be a psychopath. Just happy you're joining the military and not wounding people at home.

 

[BeeGeenie]

Sounds like you could have a very satisfying career in the military, or law enforcement. Just don't get carried away.
The difference between a psycho and a hero is that one always plays by the rules.

Although you may find, once you're actually in the field, that it's not quite the same as COD.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

That's one way to look at war.

Here's another one: one bullet can kill you, they have THOUSANDS.

 

[Varun Garuda Maharaj]

"I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives"...

Someone needs to play spec ops: the line or actually tell a real soldier this exact intention.

 

[o_O]

Oh man you're so hardcore. I wish I could be as hardcore as you.
Hey everyone, come look at how hardcore this guy it.
Damn, so hardcore.

I was gonna be all like "If they still do psych evaluations, you'll get canned for being a liability. Not to mention you'll spend 99.9% of your time doing horribly boring shit," but your responce is far superior. In fact, it's time to get some Neil deGrasse Tyson up in here.

Spoiler

 

[sextus the crazy]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

"Those who kill should expect to be killed."
- Lelouch, Code Geass

Keep this in mind. Sure, you might enjoy war and killing. On the other hand, it could be a ***** and then you die. Just learn what you're getting into.

 

[Greni]

Not morally bad per se, but totally fucking stupid.

 

[xplosive59]

Question, are you Bando from Elfen Lied? You seem to share the same enthusiasm in killing.

 

[omega 616]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

I'm no army expert but here goes...

This post sounds very juvenile and childish, like you're expecting it to be COD or you want to be like Rambo ... people line up and you knock 'em down.

I expect army training will remove that from you, from what I have seen the army like to break you down and build you up.

Do you honestly think that you would be cool, calm and collected being in a situation where anybody around you could start shooting at you? What about somebody shooting at you, bullets whizzing past your head ... are you going to be hugging your gun tightly thinking "why did I sign up for this?".

I assume the people accused of torturing and killing innocent people "for teh lolz" are also the same people with your mind set. I could be wrong but "I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives" sounds like you're firmly in that camp but what the fuck do I know?

I'm not accusing you of anything just seriously think about it, instead of hyping it up.

 

[chadachada123]

If that's what you want to do, I say go for it. At least you'll be taking out these urges on (hopefully) people that deserve it rather than innocent people or common criminals (like many of the murderous thugs in police forces around the world today).

I'm a bit interested in what your deeper reasoning is for these urges, but it's possible that there just isn't a deeper reason.

To each their own, I say, so long as you're staying on the oral side of it.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

The world couldn't exist without people who are willing to do what's necessary, but you have to discipline yourself and make sure you distinguish between the innocent and the guilty.

 

[Mazza35]

Go get 'em OP!

Whether it's you or the Child Molesting, Suicide bombing, Zealots that make up the people you'll be gunning for, I think the world will be a better place or at least won't be worse.

Although due to you sharing your feelings on this forum something tells me you're full of shit and just a venting vagina who will do nothing like this and just be an average boring loser of no worth.

I'm not toooo boring
I do fire steam locomotives and am a WWI re-enactor (Get to play with machine guns)

 

[Mazza35]

That I am joining the Army because I actually want to get away from everyone and blow shit up, kill people and chew bubble gum?
I think it, but I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives...

I'm no army expert but here goes...

This post sounds very juvenile and childish, like you're expecting it to be COD or you want to be like Rambo ... people line up and you knock 'em down.

I expect army training will remove that from you, from what I have seen the army like to break you down and build you up.

Do you honestly think that you would be cool, calm and collected being in a situation where anybody around you could start shooting at you? What about somebody shooting at you, bullets whizzing past your head ... are you going to be hugging your gun tightly thinking "why did I sign up for this?".

I assume the people accused of torturing and killing innocent people "for teh lolz" are also the same people with your mind set. I could be wrong but "I love the idea so much of going to war and fucking people up with bullets and knives" sounds like you're firmly in that camp but what the fuck do I know?

I'm not accusing you of anything just seriously think about it, instead of hyping it up.

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