Yeah...they're pulling the same bullshit cycle in Starcraft that they did in Warcraft.Exort said:Did you play warcraft before?
Orc were the "bad guys" in Warcraft 1, 2.
and then in Warcraft 3 we found that we "misunderstood" them...
Exact same thing happened...
Overmind didn't killed the Xel'naga of his own free accord. I remember it wasAtmos Duality said:Yeah...they're pulling the same bullshit cycle in Starcraft that they did in Warcraft.Exort said:Did you play warcraft before?
Orc were the "bad guys" in Warcraft 1, 2.
and then in Warcraft 3 we found that we "misunderstood" them...
Exact same thing happened...
They already retconned the fuck out of the Zerg's original story as presented in the manual.
Like how the Overmind KILLED THE XEL' NAGA of his own free accord. This "enslaved to another force" bullshit is incredibly weak justification. All they needed to do was eliminate/cure Kerrigan, have the Protoss-Zerg hybrids fill the void, fight the Xel Naga.
But Blizzard forced themselves to do the games out of order; the Zerg campaign would have to come first, then the Terran, then the Protoss.
There are valid reasons to do them in this order. Namely, the Terran are the easiest/most familar/relateable faction for the players. The Zerg are generally the most difficult to learn for the average player, and their unique style of play would require more effort to be put into the campaign if they want to retain the same excellent level of variety as Wings of Liberty's campaign.
Even so, they are following the same exact plot twist that they pulled in Warcraft 3.
While it did work, the trick's effectiveness is diminished considerably. We know what to expect now.
I'm only hoping it doesn't lead to "Universe of Starcraft". Because the last thing we need is another great universe getting pumped in the arse by the greed-n-grind stick.
I agree, I definitely think thatFreechoice said:Thank Tassadar I love spoilers.
I didn't believe it.
Then I believed it.
And the last 20 seconds made me not believe it out of sheer absurdity. Still, Metzen's one of those VA's you can recognize quickly. It sounded very close.
I would explain why, but I'll get a suspension for spoilers. I know it. Quick, someone tell me how to do spoiler text.
This is ain't the endin'.
Did you played Starcraft 2 yet?Internet Kraken said:Okay, just listen to everything Kerrigan says after 3:20. She's talking about the Zerg, the hideous bug monsters that devour entire species and live only to consume and destroy. They are mindless beasts. They were made that way intentionally, so that the cerebrates and overmind could control and influence their thoughts. They're not a sapient species. They are feral animals.
HOW THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT MAKE ANY GOD DAMN SENSE?!?!
This is some of the worst retconing I've ever seen. This better not be the real ending.
It's a good thing Blizzard games have great game play, because my god are they fucking this story up. I wonder what things are like over on the Blizzard forums.
Yes, that was another hideously stupid retcon on the part of Blizzard. Making the Overmind into a good guy was ridiculous. But let's not get into that, since it doesn't actually change anything I said. The zerg don't have morality. They aren't intelligent creatures, they're wild animals. As evidenced by the zerg outside the influence of a controlling power being mindless beasts.Exort said:Did you played Starcraft 2 yet?Internet Kraken said:Okay, just listen to everything Kerrigan says after 3:20. She's talking about the Zerg, the hideous bug monsters that devour entire species and live only to consume and destroy. They are mindless beasts. They were made that way intentionally, so that the cerebrates and overmind could control and influence their thoughts. They're not a sapient species. They are feral animals.
HOW THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT MAKE ANY GOD DAMN SENSE?!?!
This is some of the worst retconing I've ever seen. This better not be the real ending.
It's a good thing Blizzard games have great game play, because my god are they fucking this story up. I wonder what things are like over on the Blizzard forums.
In the Protoss mission, it is revealed that Zerg was control by Dark Voice though overmind.
They didn't set out to destroy world in the first place, it wasn't by their will.
Someone finally picked this up! Seriously! I can swear they used it in the last trailer for Starcraft II!thelonewolf266 said:yeah its definitely the transformer music at 2.15
The Overmind still attacked them of his own free will. There is absolutely no mention or even hint of implanting an agenda into it other than "Grow, spread". Its modus operandi as presented in Starcraft 2 has completely changed now from willing conqueror to unwilling perpetrator/victim.Exort said:Overmind didn't killed the Xel'naga of his own free accord. I remember it was
"The Overmind realized that to continue growing the zerg would need to leave Zerus,[1] and assimilated the behemoths,[2] enabling its forces to travel into space. It had since detected the xel'naga worldships in orbit and these made a logical first target for new material."
Overmind just want to grow. Nothing has changed there it was like that before Starcrft 2.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel%27naga
Duran is definitely working for this new "evil" threat. If he isn't, well, that just means the writers wanted to completely destroy what was established in the secret mission in Brood War.By the way all sign point toward Xel'naga are good before Starcraft 2. (since you said Terran and protoss have to fight Xel'naga)
"The xel'naga cherished all life and refused to kill anything, not even the entity at KL-2."
from the same link.
That doesn't sound evil to me, and why would Terran and protoss have to fight them if they "cherished all life".
I know it is wide thought that Duran is working for Xel'Naga, but he might be working for Dark Voice or Voice in the Darkness all along.