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Hugo Artenis Rune

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Yup, the Sorceress in this game is ridiculous but to be honest, it's no more exaggerated than the image of the viking style dude, a guy who looks so insanely beefy that I bet he could not actually wipe his backside. I'm calling sexism on both sides here, but as it's so silly I'm letting it slide.

(p.s. as an aside, my wife and stepdaughter have seen the Sorceress character in the trailer and both said that if they could make their boobs float they would as apparently having big boobs is *sore*)
 

Pogilrup

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defskyoen said:
Fear of the slippery slope or domino effect depending to how you would see it.

That if a game proves popular and does the usual stereotypical female depictions in its cast of characters, future games might seek to create similar characters. This could continue indefinitely and thus some outside whistleblowing is needed from time to time.

Of course what would be nice is if in the future a majority of games can make do without the sexiness and that the fanservice heavy games are considered fringe by the general audience.
 

Maxtro

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Every character in Dragons Crown is drawn with absurd levels of exaggeration. So what if one of the characters has large breasts?!

Western society is too prudish.

If you don't like the look of a character, then don't play as her, or simply don't buy the game at all.
 

Pogilrup

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Maxtro said:
Every character in Dragons Crown is drawn with absurd levels of exaggeration. So what if one of the characters has large breasts?!

Western society is too prudish.

If you don't like the look of a character, then don't play as her, or simply don't buy the game at all.
Unfortunately, not looking at a fire doesn't extinguish it. The those that did blow the whistle on this game were probably concerned about how this work might influence works to perpetuate something we would preferably shove into the backrooms.
 

Evil Smurf

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PunkRex said:
Evil Smurf said:
PunkRex said:
This is why I love you Bob, agreements all round. I was raised by my mum, little sister and nan but gawd damn if I just don't like me a busty red head.
Then I think you'll like Faye Reagan, just a hunch.

Anyway, I don't really mind if a game has overly sexualised characters, but if it is overboard then I can't play for the awkward: See Lollipop Chainsaw massacre.
*Ahem* Weeeell I... may know of her...
;D great is'n't she.
 

Terramax

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There is nothing wrong with this character design.

There are women that have breasts that size. I'd post a pic or two, but I'm sure the mods would cause issue, and I get the feeling those who'd benefit most from it aren't mature to handle it.

Some people are just too sensitive, stubborn or ignorant to understand the character is exaggerated for fun affect. You just have to look at the other characters in the roster to understand that. The same people who complain about the mage are the kinds of people who take South Park too seriously. Or fail to look at a product as a whole, or even playing the product at all (didn't we have this nonsense with Tomb Raider half a year back?), and jump the gun.

Then, there's others, where--

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Yuuki

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it's murder on the back too
Makes me wonder how evolution/nature could even think of designing a body that has large breasts and not a strong enough back to comfortably support it. It's like nature had a hiccup, because it's had tens of thousands of years to perfect human design and we still end up having women with large breasts being in pain! How the hell did those women manage before bras were invented (i.e. how nature intended it)...did they simply avoid physical activity or what o_O

Meaning no offense to women with large breasts IRL, I'm sure they are equally frustrated and ponder the same question! Or maybe they are happy/satisfied, who am I to generalize :D
 

GryffinDarkBreed

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Yuuki said:
Red X said:
it's murder on the back too
Makes me wonder how evolution/nature could even think of designing a body that has large breasts and not a strong enough back to comfortably support it. It's like nature had a hiccup, because it's had tens of thousands of years to perfect human design and we still end up having women with large breasts being in pain! How the hell did those women manage before bras were invented (i.e. how nature intended it)...did they simply avoid physical activity or what o_O

Meaning no offense to women with large breasts IRL, I'm sure they are equally frustrated and ponder the same question! Or maybe they are happy/satisfied, who am I to generalize :D
Evolution is hardly perfect, that's why 99% of every species that has ever existed is extinct ;)
 

Uhura

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Geez, finding sexualized female characters in video games jarring/problematic doesn't indicate an immature or prudish disposition.
 

Prosis

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Yuuki said:
Makes me wonder how evolution/nature could even think of designing a body that has large breasts and not a strong enough back to comfortably support it. It's like nature had a hiccup, because it's had tens of thousands of years to perfect human design and we still end up having women with large breasts being in pain! How the hell did those women manage before bras were invented (i.e. how nature intended it)...did they simply avoid physical activity or what o_O

Meaning no offense to women with large breasts IRL, I'm sure they are equally frustrated and ponder the same question! Or maybe they are happy/satisfied, who am I to generalize :D
Evolution is lazy. It does only what is necessary, not what is best. If a person is still able to have and raise as many children as everyone else, it really does not matter to evolution how inefficient or broken down the body is.


On topic, I really can't muster up rage against the Sorceress. Its sexist, sure, but primarily it just strikes me as incredibly juvenile. Like the gradeschool students who would scribble naughty pictures in their textbooks.
 

JoshuaMadoc

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You know, Kamitani already issued an apology, and Jason Schreier refused to accept, still continuing to attack him.

You see what I mean here? It's like he's asking other artists like me to give him the same treatment, and not only refuse to back down, but also let him know that he's asking to have his face reconstructed.

I don't care who's right or wrong about this topic anymore. Having the entire fucking internet gang up on you just for doing what you like is pack mentality at its most vile. Shame on all of you, both sides.
 

Mahoshonen

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Maxtro said:
Every character in Dragons Crown is drawn with absurd levels of exaggeration. So what if one of the characters has large breasts?!

Western society is too prudish.

If you don't like the look of a character, then don't play as her, or simply don't buy the game at all.
So if I make a game that has a blackface character with a massive afro, fights by throwing watermelons, and heals himself by eating fried chicken, I am excused from all criticism because it's 'ironic?' I'll be sure to let David Duke know this.
 

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Pogilrup said:
Maxtro said:
Every character in Dragons Crown is drawn with absurd levels of exaggeration. So what if one of the characters has large breasts?!

Western society is too prudish.

If you don't like the look of a character, then don't play as her, or simply don't buy the game at all.
Unfortunately, not looking at a fire doesn't extinguish it. The those that did blow the whistle on this game were probably concerned about how this work might influence works to perpetuate something we would preferably shove into the backrooms.
So then those people are guilty of betraying other gamers, and they are doing it to appease the ignorance of others. And I wouldn't stop to piss on them even if they were on fire. The enemy is those who would try to blame and shame everyone who enjoys an artistic medium because they find certain uses of that medium to be offensive.

From arch-conservatives to militant feminists, to the far-right to the far-left of the political spectrum, those who attempt to politicise gaming are no friends to any gamer who would like to play games free of censorship and repression.
 

Mahoshonen

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Paradoxrifts said:
Pogilrup said:
Maxtro said:
Every character in Dragons Crown is drawn with absurd levels of exaggeration. So what if one of the characters has large breasts?!

Western society is too prudish.

If you don't like the look of a character, then don't play as her, or simply don't buy the game at all.
Unfortunately, not looking at a fire doesn't extinguish it. The those that did blow the whistle on this game were probably concerned about how this work might influence works to perpetuate something we would preferably shove into the backrooms.
So then those people are guilty of betraying other gamers, and they are doing it to appease the ignorance of others. And I wouldn't stop to piss on them even if they were on fire. The enemy is those who would try to blame and shame everyone who enjoys an artistic medium because they find certain uses of that medium to be offensive.

From arch-conservatives to militant feminists, to the far-right to the far-left of the political spectrum, those who attempt to politicise gaming are no friends to any gamer who would like to play games free of censorship and repression.
Hey, did you know that criticism and censorship are not synonymous? Amazing, I know!