J.J. Abrams Says Gay Characters Are Coming to Star Wars

[spartandude]

Heres me hoping for Poe and Finn romance.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

I think this thread is yet another excellent demonstration of just how few people actually read anything more than the heading before commenting. There is little point in me saying this, but I'll say it anyway; JJ didn't announce these hypothetical gay characters, he was asked a question and answered it. What exactly was he supposed to do when asked this question?
I guess he should have responded with: "Go fuck yourself you ****. How dare you ask me about gay characters. I have integrity, and I'm not going to pander to people by making a big deal out of this and parading them around for political reasons in some kind of announcement. You'll receive no answer from me."

I don't even like the guy and I'm still annoyed at the number of people pretending this was some kind of announcement, rather than an answer. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at the media for turning this into a big deal.

 

[stormtrooper9091]

I think this thread is yet another excellent demonstration of just how few people actually read anything more than the heading before commenting. There is little point in me saying this, but I'll say it anyway; JJ didn't announce these hypothetical gay characters, he was asked a question and answered it. What exactly was he supposed to do when asked this question?
I guess he should have responded with: "Go fuck yourself you ****. How dare you ask me about gay characters. I have integrity, and I'm not going to pander to people by making a big deal out of this and parading them around for political reasons in some kind of announcement. You'll receive no answer from me."

I don't even like the guy and I'm still annoyed at the number of people pretending this was some kind of announcement, rather than an answer. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at the media for turning this into a big deal.

good lad. However whether or not this was made into a big deal by the media who purposely asked a loaded question he couldn't possibly dodge any way or he said what he was told to say, doesn't really change the fact that it's the most obvious case of pandering recently and it doesn't really help anything

 

[FirstNameLastName]

I think this thread is yet another excellent demonstration of just how few people actually read anything more than the heading before commenting. There is little point in me saying this, but I'll say it anyway; JJ didn't announce these hypothetical gay characters, he was asked a question and answered it. What exactly was he supposed to do when asked this question?
I guess he should have responded with: "Go fuck yourself you ****. How dare you ask me about gay characters. I have integrity, and I'm not going to pander to people by making a big deal out of this and parading them around for political reasons in some kind of announcement. You'll receive no answer from me."

I don't even like the guy and I'm still annoyed at the number of people pretending this was some kind of announcement, rather than an answer. If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at the media for turning this into a big deal.

good lad. However whether or not this was made into a big deal by the media who purposely asked a loaded question he couldn't possibly dodge any way or he said what he was told to say, doesn't really change the fact that it's the most obvious case of pandering recently and it doesn't really help anything

Fair enough. I'm not saying I actually agree with his comments about how desperately Hollywood needs diversity, or any of that, just that calling this an "announcement" is absurd. Although I'd argue it's yet to be decided whether this is pandering or not, since having a gay character isn't automatic pandering, and we haven't actually seen how/if this pans out to decide what the real nature of this is.

 

[JimB]

I assumed that it had some significance to the story.

It does,

Well then there was a reason for it to be displayed. Case closed I guess?

Nope. As I said and you snipped, simply having a reason to be there is insufficient to meet faefrost's standards.

 

[notashark]

I wish people would realize that their silly, divisive politics simply don't apply in a fictional universe.

No one cares what shade of human-color the humans are, or what sorts of other humans they like to rub their human-bits against. They are a generational power in the Galaxy and oppress all other species. Wookiees are enslaved and Hutts are "criminals and gangsters". Rational (ha!) Galaxy Justice Warriors should obviously be advocating for Wookiee and Hutt rights, among others.

 

[Zero=Interrupt]

As long as you include robosexuals, and a romance between ghost and horse. Also, Steven Seagal making a long, rambling speech at the end of every movie. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT STAR WARS IS ABOUT.

Ahem.

Escapism over politics. Be in favor of whatever the hell you want, just not in my jedi space muppet robot opera.

 

[Fensfield]

Though on the 'black stormtrooper' issue, I hardly have a problem with it but it did make me wonder: does that mean the empire's past using mass-clones of Jango Fett then? Frankly I'd been wondering that for a pretty long time actually. When'd they stop using the Repbulic's incredibly effective clones for their military?

As of Episode 4, actually. This is actually confirmed by the Special Editions. Note Stormtroopers of different height, and small-talking with each other unprofessionally? The most telling is that while they changed Boba Fett to be voiced by Temeura(sp?) Morrison, AKA Jango Fett, the Stormtroopers all retained their random voice actors from different people. Not clones.

Ooh o.o Well thanks then! I mean it did cross my mind that maybe there was something in the originals, but all I could think of was the fact the Clone Wars were called that, and Leia's 'Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?' which.. well, didn't do much either way. I sort of figured they had stopped using clones just.. yeah, couldn't remember/find any indicators. 'Cuz I'm dense apparently >.>

 

[Lufia Erim]

You know what? I hope they get some gay characters and crank it up to 11. Oh and rate it R. Thats popular too now right? Blood, violence and hardcore gay sex( man on man, because no one bats an eye at lesbians). I'm dead serious. Hell get a whole planet of human like species with two sexes that can only breed with same sex. If you are going to do something like stupid like announce this, go for broke.

 

[kaizen2468]

I wish they would just include characters like this so we don't know their deal until we watch the movie. Instead they need to announce this unnecessary shit and make it not about equality but about marketing.

 

[Politrukk]

There's more to it than that. The Clones from the clone wars suffer from accelerated aging, so they would not be in prime condition to fight in the army by the time A New Hope takes place. The Empire cut corners and went with regular recruits because it was cheaper. As a result, you had stormtroopers with varying levels of skill and an overall weaker army.

This assumes that all clones are grown at once. There is nothing stopping Empire from growing new clones for A New Hope as far as i know.

Cloning facilities were destroyed if we can consider that canon still.

 

[JimB]

Escapism over politics.

Turns out there are gay people who like escapism too, and would like to believe they have a place in a galaxy far, far away.

Be in favor of whatever the hell you want, just not in my Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

It is not your Jedi space Muppet robot opera. It is Disney's Jedi space Muppet robot opera. Disney has decided what it wants to do with its Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

 

[go-10]

so Chewbacca's finally revealing his sexual preference huh? Good for him!

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

It is not your Jedi space Muppet robot opera. It is Disney's Jedi space Muppet robot opera. Disney has decided what it wants to do with its Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

And part of that involved giving the guy who wrote "Wibbily wobbily TIE Fighter" and "Space Daipers" multiple books to write, as well as giving EA of all companies exclusive rights for making Star Wars games so you'll excuse those of us who were here since nearly the start for being concerned whenever Disney does anything with this franchise.

 

[JimB]

It is not your Jedi space Muppet robot opera. It is Disney's Jedi space Muppet robot opera. Disney has decided what it wants to do with its Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

And part of that involved giving the guy who wrote "Wibbily wobbily TIE Fighter" and "Space Daipers" multiple books to write, as well as giving EA of all companies exclusive rights for making Star Wars games so you'll excuse those of us who were here since nearly the start for being concerned whenever Disney does anything with this franchise.

Sure. Be concerned with it all you like, if that seems to you like a good use of your time. I don't object to people being concerned. I object to the idea that Zero=Interrupt has some kind of proprietary ownership over the franchise for no better reason than that he watched it when he was young, and that his self-perceived ownership grants him the right to tell creators what they can and cannot create in "his" property. I am unable to keep my eye-rolls to myself on that one.

 

[happyninja42]

It is not your Jedi space Muppet robot opera. It is Disney's Jedi space Muppet robot opera. Disney has decided what it wants to do with its Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

And part of that involved giving the guy who wrote "Wibbily wobbily TIE Fighter" and "Space Daipers" multiple books to write, as well as giving EA of all companies exclusive rights for making Star Wars games so you'll excuse those of us who were here since nearly the start for being concerned whenever Disney does anything with this franchise.

I love how you word this, implying you are have propriety since "you've been here since the beginning", assuming that JimB hasn't been their that long either. And sorry, but most of the other stuff done by people who had propriety rights to Star Wars, did shit with Star Wars. Most of the EU sucks, it really does. It's poorly written, poorly conceived fanfiction that happened to get published, because what the fuck else was anyone going to do with the license? Not much. So please don't act like the previous material under the Star Wars banner is some untouchable work of art, that is going to be soiled by the Mouse's fingers upon it. It's all campy crap to some degree or other. It's just now going to be Disney flavored campy crap.

 

[Something Amyss]

Turns out there are gay people who like escapism too, and would like to believe they have a place in a galaxy far, far away.

Yes, but pointing out we exist is political. As is our existence, it seems.

Speaking of...

you'll excuse those of us who were here since nearly the start for being concerned whenever Disney does anything with this franchise.

Please don't speak for me. I've been following Star Wars almost as long as it's existed, and I'm not "concerned" about this.

This has nothing to do with being a long-time fan.

 

[JimB]

Turns out there are gay people who like escapism too, and would like to believe they have a place in a galaxy far, far away.

Yes, but pointing out we exist is political. As is our existence, it seems.

It's the shamelessness of the "I have a right to pretend you don't exist, and that right confers upon you and everyone else the duty to also pretend you don't exist" argument that really gets to me.

 

[Something Amyss]

It's the shamelessness of the "I have a right to pretend you don't exist, and that right confers upon you and everyone else the duty to also pretend you don't exist" argument that really gets to me.

Indeed. However, I think what I resent more is the base notion of dismissing this as "politics."

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

It is not your Jedi space Muppet robot opera. It is Disney's Jedi space Muppet robot opera. Disney has decided what it wants to do with its Jedi space Muppet robot opera.

And part of that involved giving the guy who wrote "Wibbily wobbily TIE Fighter" and "Space Daipers" multiple books to write, as well as giving EA of all companies exclusive rights for making Star Wars games so you'll excuse those of us who were here since nearly the start for being concerned whenever Disney does anything with this franchise.

I love how you word this, implying you are have propriety since "you've been here since the beginning", assuming that JimB hasn't been their that long either. And sorry, but most of the other stuff done by people who had propriety rights to Star Wars, did shit with Star Wars. Most of the EU sucks, it really does. It's poorly written, poorly conceived fanfiction that happened to get published, because what the fuck else was anyone going to do with the license? Not much. So please don't act like the previous material under the Star Wars banner is some untouchable work of art, that is going to be soiled by the Mouse's fingers upon it. It's all campy crap to some degree or other. It's just now going to be Disney flavored campy crap.

It may have bee mostly crap, but it was crap with more dignity than Wibbily TIE Fighters, and Space Diapers.

I'm FULLY aware of how low the old EU went, but even the giant ant hive mind people and Luuke weren't anywhere NEAR that level of pure undiluted suck.

Seriously, Sapce Diapers? That's pure Jetsons right there.

Also, funny how you call the old EU fanfic when the latest freaking MOVIE takes so many elements from Star Wars fanfic that it's hilarious.