Japanese Newspaper Confirms Wii 2 Controller Details

[josemlopes]

Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

"Gimmick" is the most over-used and least-impactful word in the game industry (and fandom) today. I wish I could erase it from existence.

I understand but this kind of stuff wont improve the games. They are just diferent ways of doing the exact same thing. I really dont like Nintendo (big news everybody) and my major complaint is that even though they are going for "new" diferent tech they will still do the exact same games.

 

[GeorgW]

I doubt we'll have to wait so long actually, I'm thinking this christmas or early 2012. I'd still love for it to have 3DS/DS controllers.

 

[FallenTraveler]

This sounds amazingly awesome, if ninty hadn't JUST launched a handheld I would be all for it... it's a nifty, if expensive, idea, but it sounds amazing....

Actually, it sounds a lot like the ngp to me...

 

[Jumwa]

I understand but this kind of stuff wont improve the games. They are just diferent ways of doing the exact same thing.

And what's wrong with that? Where is it enshrined in gamer law that all things must make for better games? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it enough to just make interesting games?

No serious person ever goes to an art gallery and says "Ugh, this art isn't BETTER than this previous painting, why even bother?" You can argue that the change is shallow and insignificant, but if people enjoy it and it gives something interesting and new, why not?

And this isn't even touching on the issue of the fact that many people unfamiliar with gaming just find new methods of control more user friendly.

As for the "exact same games" remark, you do realize that not every game bearing the Mario title plays the same, I trust? Mario, for the most part, is just a sticker. It's a brand. A familiar brand used to encourage people to try out new (and perhaps daunting) game experiences that they're not familiar with.

Think the games suck, think the branding is misleading and disingenuous, even argue that they reiterate the same mechanics more than most other gaming companies, but saying Nintendo just releases the same games over and over is absurd.

 

[ThePuzzldPirate]

Okami, using augmented reality.

You point controller at screen and draw with your finger the symbol you want over it.

Old school flight sim. Tie fighter style. Plenty of room there for the controls and nobs you need to implememnt that type of game.

Hell. PC style RPG where you have a bunch of hotkeys all assigned on your controller in your prefered configuration!

Think of the possibilities.

Exactly where I sit, there is a lot of things that could be opened up with a separate screen.

 

[Delusibeta]

And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

 

[Negatempest]

Okay, I don't get the hate. Since this is a "controller" we are talking about, I don't see a hard drive, OS, or some hardware/software needed to pick up information from anything other than the console from which these very items are what drives up the price for handhelds in the 1st place. I'd say the controller would be a good $60+-usd when it comes out.

Plus there are more buttons to push an a keyboard than anything we see on a handheld and see no complaints there.

 

[Mad1Cow]

Gimmicks, gimmicks all over the place.

It doesnt even matter because there will still only exist Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and those party games.

Actually I heard a lot of developers are quite happy with the console and so a variety of games are planned for it. This means you could see many games that would be on the 360 (or possibly it's child I dunno) on Nintendo's console. Well that's if Nintendo won't be jerks, one of the major failings for the Wii was the lack of software sales because nobody would make games for them unless it was cheap shovelware, which no one bought because it looked cheap. So Nintendo could only really relly on itself for the good games which were few and far between to say the least. Also the fact they're going back to a regular controller system (true it may have a touch screen and be a detachable console, so that may confuse things a little and off put a few devs) is appealing to a lot of developers...because no-one likes making games with motion controls, the Kinect proved this for me.

 

[Mad1Cow]

the wii is fine, they didnt need to release a new one.

They do it every 5 years, it would be breaking tradition otherwise...and you know how the Japanese are about tradition...

 

[Mad1Cow]

And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

You say this, but what with the recent kerfuffle over Sony's hacking problem, they'll have lost a lot of customer support...the non-hardcore playstation fans anyway. Also Nintendo will obviously market this to the people that bought a wii saying HEY GUYS, WE MADE IT BETTER so they'll sucker in a lot of casual players like that. If Nintendo prepare a good line-up for this system on launch it will probably be the more successful one...though that's just my opinion...frankly I think it's looking more and more doubtful we'll see a PS4, so if we get it, count your blessings...

 

[Reyalsfeihc]

Listen Nintendo. I'm glad you're taking a step outside the box here, as the standard controller variations today are well... quite standard, but I think this is a big problem with the direction you're going. The Wii sold well not only because it was a family console, but it had a low price point with arguably the cheapest peripherals of the big three. Xbox 360 and PS3 controllers costing $60 has always been an irk for me and a lot of others. Yet now here we are, making each individual controller capable of being disconnected and used as a handheld gaming device, which can only lead me to believe that each controller would cost as much as $100-120 at the least. With the prices of games at $60 and the Wii2 or Project Cafe more than likely costing much more than the original Wii, I think you're going in the wrong direction with your market.

 

[Reyalsfeihc]

And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

Have to agree with Emu. If the amount of sales with the 3DS were any indicator people are tired of small upgrades from similar products.

 

[mixadj]

Kinda reminds me of the old Dreamcast controllers with the plug in mobile unit...

 

[qeinar]

it's fine by me, unless the controler is exspensive as shit since well, a lot of the games worth playing on a nintendo console is party games, which requires multiplayer..

 

[twaddle]

i see alot of comments going around about how good this will be but i'm thinking okay how much an extra controller gonna cost me? There is no way in hell this thing is going to be cheap. i'm thinking the controllers will cost £75 - £80.

 

[Negatempest]

And we see Nintendos success end without any sort of dignity.

That's what they said about the Wii. And the DS, for that matter.

Were the Wii and DS trying to recreate an experience that you can get cheaper and better with several competitors products, as well as one of their own?

They're touting touchscreen controls, twin thumbsticks and current gen graphics. You know what else has that? The NGP. Difference? The NGP will be out a year ahead, will have a lower price, and is a fucking portable.

You say this, but what with the recent kerfuffle over Sony's hacking problem, they'll have lost a lot of customer support...the non-hardcore playstation fans anyway. Also Nintendo will obviously market this to the people that bought a wii saying HEY GUYS, WE MADE IT BETTER so they'll sucker in a lot of casual players like that. If Nintendo prepare a good line-up for this system on launch it will probably be the more successful one...though that's just my opinion...frankly I think it's looking more and more doubtful we'll see a PS4, so if we get it, count your blessings...

You do not get to use the PsN thing as a "Sony fails everything forever" excuse, thats BS. People stopped blaming Sony for this thing after a month, after that only people who hate Sony anyway don't blame the hackers.

Even if you do, however, here's a couple of names. Uncharted 3. Infamous 2. Twisted Metal. Resistance 3. We, as gamers, have our opinions of companies swayed based on the games they give u s more than anything. Do people still blame Valve for the catastrophic launch of Steam?

But even if, even if you discount Sony completely, there's Apple. Apple, who have completely dominated the casual market. Apple, who have two products based on touchscreen controls. As for thinking the casuals will upgrade, why would they do that? Remember, the casuals hardly touched their Wii after a month, why would they want or need a new one?

So, if I can't make the "PSN network fail" excuse, is "Sony just plain sucks in the portable console market" still valid?

O.T. We just don't have enough information at the moment to decide what Project Cafe will do. People/consumers said the Wii would fail and it didn't. Consumers and Sony said the PSP (and it's many carnations) would overtake the DS...and it didn't. So until the new system has a year or two under it's belt, we just will not know.