Jimquisition: Who "Won" The Next-Gen Launch?

[Legion]

While I am not personally interested in the Wii U at all, I do agree with what you said about the Xbox One and PS4. They are pretty much a case of paying £350/430 to play the same kind of games as before, but with better graphics. The controllers and interfaces are more or less the same, the business model is the same, the new generation isn't exactly offering anything special just yet.

This is especially more troublesome considering the lack of backwards compatibility as well. I wouldn't really fancy buying a new console, while having to keep hold of my old one just to play a handful of games. I prefer to sell on my older things and put the money towards the replacement.

The PC isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it suits what I want from gaming right now, so I think I shall just stick with it for the time being.

 

[wolf_isthebest]

Wii U "surprising newness" with video from mario 64 and Zelda Wind Waker for the gamecube and zombies. Zombies are something new right ? I want what Sterling is smoking pls!

 

[nima55]

Exactly. The question you have to ask when getting a console is "will this be any different than my PC with a controller plunged in?" If the answer is no, then there's very little point.

 

[mjc0961]

So what tastes worse: chik-fil-a or the Ouya?

Anyway I never thought about it before but yeah, you're right. I was pretty excited for the PS4, mind you, but the Wii U was something different. And then thinking back to last gen, I was so hyped for the Wii and what it could bring to gaming. Too bad the Wii never did much with the motion controller and Wii U seems to not be doing much with the tablet.

No one can decide which console has "won", as such statements are ridiculous unless you're judging by pure sales.

I'll wait a year and then pick a side, by then the dust will have settled and the hardware defects will be corrected.

A year to correct the hardware defects? Yeah. Tell that to the Xbox 360.

Exactly. The question you have to ask when getting a console is "will this be any different than my PC with a controller plunged in?" If the answer is no, then there's very little point.

The answer is yes, it is different, because my PC with a controller plugged in can't play Killzone, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, Metal Gear Solid 4, and whatever all the upcoming PS4 exclusives will be.

You PC master race people sure are weird. Missing out on so many great franchises and games just because of whatever the inane reason of the day is.

 

[VinLAURiA]

Heh. I'm surprised all the little Yahtzites haven't run in here bitching yet about eeeeevil Nintendo getting some props.

 

[Dragonbums]

Wii U "surprising newness" with video from mario 64 and Zelda Wind Waker for the gamecube and zombies. Zombies are something new right ? I want what Sterling is smoking pls!

It was the way they went about it. Zombie U you were practically helpless, and they made it an actual danger to take the risk and scout for items.

For instance, when you check into a bag using the Wii U gamepad, you sacrifice your ability to see where the Zombies are. You also risk wasting your time. Some bags contain absolutely nothing. Others could contain valuable weapons.

You can't be picky either. Because the next thing you know, your choosing between health suppliment and weapon, and all of a sudden your dead because a zombie ripped your neck out while your scrounging the bag.

It was a new horror (and chilling) horror mechanic that many reviewers whined about.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The only next gen console I am considering is the Wii U. I am not a fan of shooters.

Having said that, are we really pretending that New Super Mario Bros U isn't just another NSMB game? Are we pretending that 3D World isn't an extension of 3D Land? Mario Kart? Zelda U?

 

[Aardvaarkman]

It both sucks and yet not suck since that day is my birthday. Yet EbGames (Gamestop to the US) are willing to place my order back and I am going back there and kick someones teeth in if they want to ruin my birthday.

Wouldn't E.B Games also be E.B Games to the US, seeing as it is an American company?

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

There definitely is more stuff on the Wii U at the moment, unfortunately not enough that I actually care to play all that much. I still have plenty of last gen stuff to play/catch up on.

Most of the newer third party stuff I will get on PC anyway so I'm hoping to upgrade my GPU this holiday. I'll let the PS4 ripen a bit since neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be having issues with a lack of early adopters.

 

[Jacked Assassin]

Heh. I'm surprised all the little Yahtzites haven't run in here bitching yet about eeeeevil Nintendo getting some props.

To call Nintendo evil when compared to MS would have to be some kind of misinformed joke.

Who caused the PC consumers to crap their pants out of fear when releasing a new OS?
MS with Windows 8.

Who makes a second rate hardware that insults its competition?
Apple with its Mac Vs PC.... Oh wait now its MS with its Tablets Vs iPads.

Who sells crap merchandise to offend a Search Engine they can't compete with?
MS selling Scroogle merchandise despite the fact Bing can't do any better.

Who has to retract statements & hardware that are Anti Consumer when called out on it?
MS with the original announcement of Xbox One.

I just find it hard to hate Nintendo when MS will out compete them in evil. In fact Nintendo might come in 3rd.... Oops forgot Ouya.... 4th.... Oops forgot EA.... I'll just say Last when it comes to being Evil.

 

[Grimh]

I've actually been getting more and more interested in the WiiU this past month while my interest in the PS4 has cooled off.
It's basically thanks to Wonderful 101 but still, there are more games I'd like to play coming out (or have come out) on that system, Bayonetta 2, X, Monster Hunter, Mario, and ZombiU looks pretty fun.
As for games on the PS4, I can only think of Infamous and Metal Gear of the top of my head. All the cross platforms I can just get on PC.

 

[Darklupus]

Lol, when Sterling brought up the new contender, I was like "Ohhh yeah!" I forgot about it. Still, there are some good mobile games, Jim, and therefore it could taste better on the Ouya.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Thank you, Jim Sterling, for reminding me of all the stuff I read months ago about how the poor Wii U's graphics capabilities were so pitiful compared to the hype about the "real" next gen consoles coming up. Well, the "real" consoles are here now and the Wii U isn't looking all that pitiful any more.

Say what? The Wii U has terrible graphics capability, it isn't even close to the PS4 or Xbone, let alone the PC. It is absolutely at the bottom of the pile, graphically speaking.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

They used to be called EB Games here in the U.S., but they changed them all to GameStop many years ago.

That doesn't change the name of E.B Games in Australia, nor that it's owned by Americans. Why would you call it by a different name than what its owners name it?

 

[mysecondlife]

Its funny. Since that one Nintendo fanboy is no where to be seen, I feel more sympathy towards Nintendo.

 

[AdagioBoognish]

I'm just gonna keep being a PC gamer. It's hard not to take "PC gamer master race" slightly seriously when the PC is above and beyond all this next-gen competition crap.

Yeah, I'm voting for my new computer as best launch this year. I think the closest PC got into the next-gen fight was when Nvidia made a silly comment about how much more powerful the Titan was than a PS4. Was a cheap shot, but other than that I haven't seen any fanboy rants about GPUs.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

Who "Won" The Next-Gen Launch?

The next phase of the console war has begun, but with the PS4 and Xbox One now out in the wild, the first battle is over. So who won? Jimquisition looks at the contenders, and crowns an early victor.

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it Jimothy, that nearly made me want to gt a WiiU. Stop it now.

 

[GrimHeaper]

In terms of quality I'd like to nominate wii U in it's current lineup.

 

[Kinitawowi]

Ninntendo had to spend six months convincing people that their new console was a new console and not just an add-on - we had tons of people returning Wii U games because they didn't work on the Wii - and a year on from launch there's still scant few people who care. That is categorical failure on every level. Yes, hardcore gaming fans knew that the Wii U was a new thing, but the Wii U has had negligible interest in hardcore gaming fans.

And even now the argument is still about slamming the 180 and PS4 for just making incremental increases and sequels to existing properties, while praising Nintendo for farting out yet another Mario game and watching as everyone says "just wait for the new Super Mario Universe / Zelda Link To The Multiverse / Super Smash Bros Rumble / any other rehash". A year on from launch, the Wii U still doesn't have a system selling title to its name.

Best launch? Obviously I need to wait until they're all done (after Friday), but on current evidence there's more buzz about the PS4 than anything else.

 

[balladbird]

I respect your opinion, as I try not to get too emotionally involved in console debates, but there is one thing about your video that made me raise my eyebrow a bit.

You criticize the PS4 and Xbox1 for having nothing to their name except extentions of franchises established by earlier generations...


... then talk about how much fun you have with a mario game.


Eh, whatever, I'll end up getting a wii-u at some point. Probably once I know more about SMT vs. Fire Emblem.