Kinect Man Says "Hardly Anyone" Plays PC Shooters Anymore

[ninjajoeman]

Its like saying the pc killed casual games for consoles. that's just stupid because we know the wii is basically a casual gaming system.

 

[Ldude893]

Misinformed man is misinformed. It's not as if it's going to change the truth about PC gaming, it's just a stupid opinion from a stupid man, like that guy who claimed that video games are not art.

 

[direkiller]

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/5826/modern-warfare-2-sells-7-million-copies-on-day-one/

just off an article for day 1 sales figures so the % breakdowns are a ballpark

Ok fair enough, there are other FPS' out there though, and MW2 really isn't even in a league with games like Stalker and Arma2. Plus, some die hard CoD fans (like myself), moved away from the CoD franchise after 2, due to it's mishandling by the parent company. I know my brother's been playing a mixture of Stalker, Fallout 3 and Rainbow Six Vegas 2. Have a friend who's been locked away playing Arma 2 for several weeks (to the point where he hasn't left his house for anything but necessities lol). My dad's been playing some Medal of Honor or Battlefield game, not sure which FPS he has on his sever now though. But...he still runs an FPS server and plays daily heh.

TBH i picked it because it was on more then one console on the day it came out(not a half a year later like halo) and it sold a lot of copy's so its a good breakdown of what people prefer to play a game on.

I prefer to do a bit of poking around before i call the guy a moron. Statistics are very subjective to who is viewing them (and only finding one games sales figures is far from a accurate data pool).

Anyway point is the kinetic guy and you are both right. People prefer to play certain game/gametypes on consoles but the PC market is far from irreverent.

 

[Brad Shepard]

TF2, i rest my case there alone.

 

[ImprovizoR]

From the Steam page:

66,415 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
65,164 Counter-Strike: Source
61,036 Counter-Strike
17,888 Football Manager 2010
13,746 Team Fortress 2
10,053 Left 4 Dead 2

That's not quite in line with his statements.

And it also scares me that 1.6 is still so popular.

Halo Reach. 734,000. Obviously 60,000 people is nothing to shake a stick at, but by comparison all of those games don't add up to one xbox game. So not hardly anyone by any means... but definitely fewer than there should be.

You realize that Halo: Reach just came out. Give us the numbers a year from now, then we will see.

It's not just that. These numbers on Steam are all legitimate sales. You can pirate Xbox 360 games and play them online as if you bought them fair and square. Who knows how many people actually pirated it. Lets have a look at some of the torrent sites shall we?

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

I don't think the man has even been informed of how VAST community support is for PC games. While I do not play shooters on my computer, games like Oblivion become precious gems compared to their console-counterparts that are constantly polished by by those who love the games. Once a developer drops DLC support, a console game is doomed to remain stagnant, something that will always drive a group of people towards the PC games. Halo has been pretty much the tip of the user-creation iceberg, and who can say what 343 will produce for Microsoft that can compete with its predecessor?

As they say, ignorance is bliss. He can continue to think that people only want "console shooters" which is fine by me because those same people probably don't want to play a Kinect rail shooter, either. Remember, Mr. Tsunoda, that about everyone who bought the 360 did it for games like Reach, Gears, Fable, and Mass Effect, NOT for your Kamera. Kinect will not do anything more for motion controls if it does not have its own "Halo."

 

[direkiller]

TBH i picked it because it was on more then one console on the day it came out(not a half a year later like halo) and it sold a lot of copy's so its a good breakdown of what people prefer to play a game on.

I don't really think so myself, CoD has ridden a wave of consumer awareness for many years. The first one was GOTY after all. Then you had the wave of FPS console fans that thirsted for basically....two franchises; CoD and Halo. After they started to adapt the game to console, and yes, at the detriment of the PC version, people simply started moving away to greener pastures. There've been tons of quality FPS' out both before and after the launch of MW2 though, and people are still playing Counterstrike, and CoDUO and 2.

EDIT: Largely agree with the rest of what you said though heh.

Its not what people still play to this day that matters it what they will buy today(yes alot of people play CS/CSS but valve dosen't see a large weekly sales from it anymore).

Kudo Tsunoda is somewhat right(PC FPS game sales are down compared to those on consoles). He may be completely right in the future if company don't find the added PC game sales worth the extra coding/cost they need to do to get it on the PC.

on a side note:Back up what your feeling with facts

 

[Royas]

How in the hell does Microsoft stay in business at all with morons like this running the show?

Seriously, I feel a little dumber having read his statement. Sure, he's right, if by "hardly" you mean "almost" and by "anyone" you mean "everyone". See, only a small change, so he's close.

 

[Skratt]

*facepalm*

'Hardly anyone' could be rather subjective I suppose....

Yes but suspicious implications still lurk about despite it's potential for subjectivity. As long as he doesn't follow up his speech with more drivel, we can chalk it up to 'whoops'.

 

[Waaghpowa]

HAHAHAHA

A lot of these big time game company guys (EA, Ubisoft, Microsoft) seem to be dumb, take EA for example.
EA just recently figured out that most game consumers purchase games based on word of mouth and that they should stop spending so much money on extravagant advertising and more on actual games.

 

[Deadman Walkin]

I am pretty sure it isn't hard to find a CSS server. Hell thousands of people are always online, even in the ridiculous hours of the day. The whole "FPS PC games are basically dead" is a load of crap. One game isn't enough to destroy a gaming platform. Sure lots of people play halo, but lots of people also play TF2 and many other shooters.

 

[individual11]

I smell a Troll.
Microsoft now go looking under bridges for new spokespeople.
Activision found their CEO growing in a mountain of shit.
Off topic slightly, but we're smarter than that; why are we even wasting bandwidth on a deliberate publicity stunt?
If they are THAT stupid, they don't deserve our money.

 

[Merkavar]

all i can say is lol

 

[Contun]

Spoiler: Facepalm.

He should really do a little more research...

From the Steam page:

66,415 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
65,164 Counter-Strike: Source
61,036 Counter-Strike
17,888 Football Manager 2010
13,746 Team Fortress 2
10,053 Left 4 Dead 2

That's not quite in line with his statements.

And it also scares me that 1.6 is still so popular.

I'm not surprised. Counter Strike and its later installments are (arguably) the greatest FPS' ever made.

 

[Autofaux]

First his Kinect prediction and now this. I'm not the biggest PC enthusiast in the world, but even I'm not stupid enough to make such a statement. I threw away hours on Mass Effect 2, and I'm sure others did as well. And even more will be burning hours on MoH and Black Ops.

Just.. What are these people thinking when they make statements like this?

 

[Narcogen]

From the Steam page:

66,415 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
65,164 Counter-Strike: Source
61,036 Counter-Strike
17,888 Football Manager 2010
13,746 Team Fortress 2
10,053 Left 4 Dead 2

That's not quite in line with his statements.

And it also scares me that 1.6 is still so popular.

How can you say this is out of line with his statements without any context?

416,465 - Halo: Reach

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/online.aspx

That's a current number, not a peak number.

The current number for the above Steam games is considerably lower than you've quoted: only 13,376 for CS: Source and 12,818 for MOW2. Your numbers are closer to the peak numbers, but any way you slice it, there are somewhere between six and thirty times more players on XBL's most popular game than on Steam's most popular game.

A glance at the Steam stats above show that at this very moment, there are more people playing the single most popular game on XBL than there are playing all top 100 popular games on Steam: 416,465 vs 102,098.

In fact, there are more people currently playing Halo: Reach on XBL than the total of all peak concurrent player figures for all of Steam's top 100 titles: 416,465 to 408,693.

One can argue that this is launch time for Reach, and the numbers will settle. One can argue that Steam does not represent all PC gaming, because it doesn't. Of course, XBL does not represent all console online gaming either, although it may well represent a majority of online FPS play. One can argue that this is not a good trend. One can argue that Kinect is not relevant to shooters, and that Tsunoda's statement is hyperbole.

One can't argue that 66,000 is more than 416,00. Whether the difference is worth the descriptor "hardly any" is certainly arguable, but this places it within the realm of exaggeration, rather than inaccuracy or fabrication.

 

[Narcogen]

From the Steam page:

66,415 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
65,164 Counter-Strike: Source
61,036 Counter-Strike
17,888 Football Manager 2010
13,746 Team Fortress 2
10,053 Left 4 Dead 2

That's not quite in line with his statements.

And it also scares me that 1.6 is still so popular.

Halo Reach. 734,000. Obviously 60,000 people is nothing to shake a stick at, but by comparison all of those games don't add up to one xbox game. So not hardly anyone by any means... but definitely fewer than there should be.

You realize that Halo: Reach just came out. Give us the numbers a year from now, then we will see. The fact that people still even play CODMW2 on PC is staggering really. If I'm not mistaken there are actually more COD4 players anways.

The rest of the games on that list are over a year old, some even 7+ years old.

Halo 3 came out three years ago.

Players in the past 24 hours? 214,359. The problem is that number isn't directly comparable to anything on Steam-- they publish peak and concurrent.

However, it is possible to make some educated guesses. Bungie.net counts 214,359 players for H3 in the past 24 hours, and 2,545,261 players in the past 24 hours in total. If we assume the balance is reach, that means that the 24 hour figure (total unique) for Reach is 2,330,902.

We can calculate a rough ratio between the total unique players in a 24 hour period and the current players online right now. Since I don't have peak figures from Bungie I can't compare those, but if we could track it and estimate daily peaks for Reach we might use a similar calculation to guesstimate H3's peak and then compare those number to the Steam peak figures. That ratio is 5.8. If we assume the ratio is the same for both Halo 3 and Halo Reach, that would mean that the estimated current online players for Halo 3 is around 36,958. A lot less popular than Reach, which is understandable.

However, that is roughly equal to the total combined current player count for Steam's top 3 games-- CS: Source, MOW2, and CS. It's worth noting that only one of those four games is newer than 3 years old. MOW2 is the most popular new game on Steam and the only one in the top 5 that is not a Valve game.

 

[captaincabbage]

God Bobby, no. Just, *sigh* no.

Here's some instructions for Mr. Bobby Kotick on assembling his very own 'shut-the-fuck-up' machine:

1. Take Foot A.
2. Insert in Mouth B.
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!!