LaBeouf: It's My Fault Indiana Jones 4 Was No Good

Glamorgan

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I didn't like the film to be honest, and while I think it is good that he admitted that he screwed it up, I still think that LaBeouf is still a terrible actor.
 

Uncompetative

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Indy 4 > Indy 2.

I hated Indy 2.

Ask yourself this: "would you rather not have had a fourth Indiana Jones film of any kind?" - because all of the things that people criticise about the film (the Roswell aliens, escaping from a nuclear bomb test by hiding in a heavy refrigerator) were in keeping with the '50s period they were forced to adopt because, let's face it, Harrison Ford is 67.
 

VonBrewskie

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This man is a true professional. He understands his responsibility as an actor. Every actor can benefit from his example.
 

KaiRai

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I don't think he's a bad actor. I haven't seen any of the Indiana Jones movies though, not my kind of thing really. *Puts up flameshield xinfinity*.

My friend is a real hardcore fan of the Jones though, and he said this movie ruined it for him because of the storyline and apparently
There are aliens or something in it? I dunno but....
I guess that would ruin it for some people...
 

Korolev

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It was hardly all his fault. I don't begrudge him for taking on the character (we all gotta eat) - I blame the writers for making such a character in the first place. I know that you kind of need a "successor" type character to Indie, since Ford is so old - but at the same time, I think it could have been done a lot better than just shoe-horning in his long lost son, which is, frankly, something a bad soap opera would do.

LaBeouf didn't do a very good job, but I'm convinced that no actor would have. Crystal Skull wasn't bad, except for the last quarter or so where it really dropped the ball, and that's not LaBeouf's fault.

Don't make another Indie Film. Ford is too old, the people involved with making the originals such classics have either left, lost their touch or gone senile, and I just don't see it getting any better from there.

To be very honest, the only thing that comes even close to indiana jones is.... Uncharted 2. Yes, Uncharted 2 is closer to the spirit of Indiana jones than, well, Indiana Jones 4.

Now let's hope to all hell that Uncharted does not become a film.
 

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What the crap? Yes it was a shit movie but it sure as fuck wasn't shia's fault. Here is a hint. The person who fucked up indiana jones 4 is the same person who fucked up the star wars prequels.




















Yes that's right! Jar jar binks!
 

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As much as I would like to blame every failure in the world on that guy, (I don't dislike him that much but... you know. He's a Hollywood actor, it's the principle,)... IJatKotCS was unsalvagable due to the writing not the casting or the acting. This was the writing that called for LeBeouf's character to be used in the first place. This is the writing that brought in the ETs.

This to me sounds like not LeBeouf's humility and willingness to take responsibility coming to the front, it's his incredible arrogance. Does he really think he's so important that the success or failure of a movie is on his poorly-developed shoulders? I mean he's not a bad actor but he's yet to have a movie where he and he alone could be said to be the major ingredient of it's success or failure. He is yet to carry a movie. Once he does, and when it fails, then we can get the apologies.
 

Andronicus

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LaBeouf wasn't the best part of the movie, but he certainly wasn't the worst.

Indiana Jones 4 should have died when the word "aliens" was mentioned. I loved the religious overtones of the original three. The aliens plot-line just didn't sit right with me.
 

MiracleOfSound

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bad rider said:
Dude, I think the internet has crippled Shia LeBeouf's confidence.
Sounds like it.

He must have had quite a lot of time at home to contemplate when he broke his hand.

It's well known he's a big gamer and a bit of a geek, so very likely frequents some websites where he would see peoples' general reactions to his movies.
 

Rect Pola

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While I'm glad he recognizes the duty of an actor, and I'm sure he shares some of the blame, the script and direction did their part too.
 

Phokal

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I dislike the guy for being annoying in Transformers 1, but it's not his fault Indy 4 was awful. The writing and directing killed it. Laurence Olivier couldn't sell a chase scene with jeeps and monkeys.

The more I think about it, the more I think he's like Nick Cage. Stop giving him Action Hero roles; he's not convincing. Give him a crazy role, or a crazy action hero role (Big Daddy from Kick Ass). He'd probably do fine.
 

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Andronicus said:
LaBeouf wasn't the best part of the movie, but he certainly wasn't the worst.

Indiana Jones 4 should have died when the word "aliens" was mentioned. I loved the religious overtones of the original three. The aliens plot-line just didn't sit right with me.
What didn't sit right with me was that no character KNEW it was aliens. In previous Indy's, the cast knew what they were dealing with, whether they believed in the ark or grail or did not.
In this one, everyone was clueless for most of the movie, but the audience knew *exactly* what they were dealing with the moment they stepped into area 51.

"That's not just a glass sculpture! it's their skull! it's in the title of the movie! stop being so stupid!"
 

TsunamiWombat

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I appreciate his honor in trying to fall on his sword, but it wasn't your fault, LaBeouf. Keep on truckin, make them dolla bills long as you can, and remember Haters always gonna Hate.
 

lodo_bear

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EnglishMuffin said:
What the crap? Yes it was a shit movie but it sure as fuck wasn't shia's fault. Here is a hint. The person who fucked up indiana jones 4 is the same person who fucked up the star wars prequels.

Yes that's right! Jar jar binks!
Well played, sir.

Personally, I loved LaBeouf's work in "Holes". Labeouf just needs to get into films that aren't betrayals of their own franchises.
 

Kelethor

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Jack and Calumon said:
I thought the reason was Terrible story, not LaBeouf.

Calumon: He's being kinda hard on himself. It was all Lucas' fault!
This basically

Shia is a decent actor. he has a quiet, somewhat nerdy, but reliable look about him. the kind of guy that the entire world could just suddenly take a shit on, and simply sigh and take it. I liked him in Holes, and I certainly remember him back when he was on the family channel. that being said, I do think he needs to seriously reconsider what role's he takes, but I suppose when your an actor, you take what you can get and hold on for dear life. sure, its possible that he's bull shitting us for sympathy, but I honestly think that he's genuine.
 

zombie711

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The only parts i didnt like were the aliens, nuke proof fridge and animated golfers. fun fact the fridge was lead lined so it made sense that its nuke proof but indie could survive a fall that big.