All I have to say is...what's wrong with that? I'm currently writing a story where half of the characters in the military are female. The reaction is kind of a laid back "meh, she's a woman in a soldier, so what?" attitude. Not much attention drawn to it. I'm trying to inject feminist ideals into my story, but not in an in your face kind of way. In a passive, just putting it there and not drawing attention to it way. Just to make it feel natural. Just idly mention that one of my female characters regularly purchases the services of male prostitutes at the local brothel and have no one think it's a big deal. I've gotten a grand total of zero complaints, save for one person who says that he thinks the gender ratio is slightly skewered towards females, and that he prefers an even 50/50 split. Heck, I've even gotten a couple of female fans who say that they really like the way I write my female characters. It's idealized, but it's not bad. Frankly I think gay people absolutely love the idea of playing a game where they can go "That person is gay, so what?" A game where two gay men approach their relationship the exact way two heterosexual people would. Maybe it's just me, but if I was gay, I wouldn't play a game to remind myself of how much crap I had to put up with, I would play it to get away from it. Are there places for games that explore the stigma of being gay? Yes there are. But there are also places for the "I'm gay, big deal, who wants pizza" attitudes in game.NemotheElvenPanda said:
Be careful what you wish for http://store.steampowered.com/app/312970/Nimcha said:Kinda cool to see all this happening. It would be pretty awesome to have a game where almost all characters are gay! Why not!
Fucking Anders, you sociopathic little *****.Dying_Jester said:
More games should let you combine X and Y chromosomes as you wish. Like XXX, XXY, X, XYY, XX and XY and if you want to play as a character with only Y you start the game dead.Ratty said:
I find a lot of heterosexual relationships/romances "meh" at best...not quite to the point of outright avoidance but stillAbomination said:
QFT. Being nice too often equals being sexually interested. BioWare themselves is guilty of that as well if my memory serves me right.Dying_Jester said:
A pretty interesting idea. There is an argument that the cause of your sexual orientation is a genetic predisposition. The choice in the character creator could reflect that stance as the character creation is basically its birth.Adam Jensen said:
I'm aware, but it still doesn't make it feel relatable or realistic. No lack of stigma is in a game going to change the fact, at least for me, that there's a stigma in real which I find to be incredibly dissonant, especially since that stigma is due to the fact that homosexuality IS atypical and not something most people expect. If you want to have a presence of gay people for the sake of their presence, that's completely fine. However if you're doing it to make gay players feel part of the experience, which is what Bioware tries to do, taking out matters that most gay people face isn't going to help with getting that across.LifeCharacter said:
Wrong is too strong a word I think, maybe unrealistic is a better one. Even in places where homosexuality is accepted there is still always that risk gay people like myself have to worry about a lot. Obviously if you want to have a no-strings attached depiction of homosexuality in a game, the makers can do as they please and I'm pretty confident that many gay people really want that. For me though it's just a bit odd that I can metaphorically hold hands with a man in a faux-dark ages setting where you have all the traits of a dark-ages society, all except for attitudes towards gender and sex. If Bioware wants to make a medieval setting that has no qualms about that, it's completely fine. However if they want to make gay characters to make games more inclusive and relatable to gay people, there should be some of that anxiety in how the relationships pan out.erttheking said:
So the clockwork flying machines, magic and underwater city of ghosts were fine in Jade Empire. But gays being openly gay would have been a bridge too far? You're literally asking gay players to put up with being oppressed while playing a game that's all about an empowerment fantasy. Simply because you can't accept that that particular aspect of a fantasy world is fantastic.NemotheElvenPanda said:
Well, all art is pointless on some level. Just like everything else humans do. But being more inclusive/diverse to add much needed variety to your characters and/or appeal to a wider audience (like game makers are constantly saying they want to do) actually does serve those purposes. Even if the character as a minority doesn't serve any special purpose they couldn't have served as a straight white person.Zachary Amaranth said:
Yes, I was thinking of genderfluid individuals as well but I was very tired when writing. The issue of gender is a very complex one because people tend to be very defensive of things they learn when very young. When you challenge these concepts, even if it's only by existing as a transgendered person they can and often do get violent. The incredibly high rate of murder and violence against transwomen is particularly horrifying. And helped by a culture where many see them as "traps" for straight men. While some some particularly deranged and paranoid "feminists" claim they're sleeper cells for "the patriarchy". As I understand it was in a book by one such "feminist" the derogatory term "she-male" came about.Alek_the_Great said:
