Lamest/WTF?! plot twist
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Infamous
Kessler is really YOU, from the future. He went back in time (how many power stations do you need to reconnect to get THAT ability?) and now and he's trying to destroy the city in the present in order to groom you into a hero - so you can protect the the world from "the Beast" who has destroyed the city in the future.
And I'm willing to bet that this "Beast" is probably just a different incarnation of yet another future self. Like, Kessler's already tried this once with you and he failed (you took the "Infamous" route), so now he went back AGAIN to try it differently.
I mean, I love the game and I admit this story is pretty interesting, but still - I didn't expect THAT.
Kessler is really YOU, from the future. He went back in time (how many power stations do you need to reconnect to get THAT ability?) and now and he's trying to destroy the city in the present in order to groom you into a hero - so you can protect the the world from "the Beast" who has destroyed the city in the future.
And I'm willing to bet that this "Beast" is probably just a different incarnation of yet another future self. Like, Kessler's already tried this once with you and he failed (you took the "Infamous" route), so now he went back AGAIN to try it differently.
I mean, I love the game and I admit this story is pretty interesting, but still - I didn't expect THAT.
Bioshock Spoiler:
At first I really liked the twist for bioshock, I had already figured out that your character is Ryan's son because of the pole dancer scene, and I was pretty sure Atlas was a bad guy, but I thought the twist about him having control over your mind was pretty sick. But then I started to think about it, and it doesn't make much sense. If he has complete control over your mind, why doesn't he just command him to take the adam from the little girl in the early part of the game? Why does he feel the need to fake some shit about saving his family to a guy he has complete control over?
At first I really liked the twist for bioshock, I had already figured out that your character is Ryan's son because of the pole dancer scene, and I was pretty sure Atlas was a bad guy, but I thought the twist about him having control over your mind was pretty sick. But then I started to think about it, and it doesn't make much sense. If he has complete control over your mind, why doesn't he just command him to take the adam from the little girl in the early part of the game? Why does he feel the need to fake some shit about saving his family to a guy he has complete control over?
Near the end of Boktai (remember, that game that forced you to go outside and collect solar power to defeat vampires?). Where it's revealed that the female protagonist that looks vaguely young and near your age turns out to be your mom. WTF!!!!! I was so disappointed! Really, Konami it couldn't have been a princess and you're the last prince of a long lost sun kingdom? Sure it would have been cheesy, but at least the female protagonist would have had a more decent character placement.
<spoiler=Red Faction Guerrilla> When you find out that the engineer girl who helps you was a marauder. I mean, WTF?! Seriously, she has THE MOST stereotypical English (Or "British" as quite a few Americans call it) accent EVER. If that weren't annoying enough, how is that possible?! She was marauder-born, they barely talk, and when they do, they sound all stupid and deranged. Besides, she's on Mars! All the other NPCs are American, and even if there were some English people there on Mars, I doubt they'd sound sooo posh as to change her accent entirely!
Isn't RFG set about 100-150 years after now? Considering how the English accent has changed in that time already, isn't it fair to say it would've most likely completely lost the stereotype by then?
It just makes NO SENSE. I can understand her being Maraduer raised, but the accent, oh god, the accent... URGH.
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Oh, and to dumblogic, I think it's because he wanted to make the character feel like he had free will. Maybe it was just for game purposes, I mean if he basically ordered you to do everything, it would feel like the most linear game ever. So if it made the actual player feel like he/she has a choice weather to harvest or save, you don't question if he's controlling you or not. I do agree, however that it doesn't make sense for the character, but it makes sense for the game. It didn't make me feel like "Oh, he's betrayed that guy" It made me feel like he'd betrayed ME, because of the element of freedom you get in the game, I felt in control, but I really wasn't.
Isn't RFG set about 100-150 years after now? Considering how the English accent has changed in that time already, isn't it fair to say it would've most likely completely lost the stereotype by then?
It just makes NO SENSE. I can understand her being Maraduer raised, but the accent, oh god, the accent... URGH.
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Oh, and to dumblogic, I think it's because he wanted to make the character feel like he had free will. Maybe it was just for game purposes, I mean if he basically ordered you to do everything, it would feel like the most linear game ever. So if it made the actual player feel like he/she has a choice weather to harvest or save, you don't question if he's controlling you or not. I do agree, however that it doesn't make sense for the character, but it makes sense for the game. It didn't make me feel like "Oh, he's betrayed that guy" It made me feel like he'd betrayed ME, because of the element of freedom you get in the game, I felt in control, but I really wasn't.
It happening for many people is actually more evidence of it being a bug if anything. I'd say it looks more like a bug than intentional if it doesn't happen to everyone.MadeinHell said:
The thing with him appearing right there is not that hard to explain IMO, seeing as he appears through the hologram conversation just seconds later.
Not saying it can't have a purpose, but still seems shady to me.
watching a little too much ZP there, eh?Crimson_Dragoon said:
anyway, I must go with the multi-personality slut/prep girl from Vampire the Masquerade.
Any game where your teammate turns out to be evil without reason. Let's see, it happens in...
Infamous, Uncharted 2, Tomb Raider, Indiana Jones: Crystal Skull (twice), National Treasure, 50 Cent: Blood in the Sand... so on and so on. It is such a bad cliche' that if a teammate is introduced or has some minor problem with the main character, bullets will be exchanged instead of words.
Infamous, Uncharted 2, Tomb Raider, Indiana Jones: Crystal Skull (twice), National Treasure, 50 Cent: Blood in the Sand... so on and so on. It is such a bad cliche' that if a teammate is introduced or has some minor problem with the main character, bullets will be exchanged instead of words.
That would be fine, but the game survives on its narrative. It could have fixed this problem by putting in a part that would make you think that Fontaine knew that your character had a little bit of free will left, and that if you thought something was fishy, you may be able to disobey him, but he seems so confident in his mind control over you, that he tells you his entire plan.Captain Pirate said:
Kingdom Hearts II
ROxAS is SORA(x)'s Nobody! And xEMNAS is ANSEM(x)'s Nobody. Kinda. Didn't see that coming, durpy durp-durp!
Eternal Sonata.
YOU KNOW THE ONE
Or just in case you don't or have never played that game and don't care:
GRRR I HAVE FURY.
YOU KNOW THE ONE
Or just in case you don't or have never played that game and don't care:
When Frederic Chopin starts suffering acute schyzophrenia and decides it's time for all the other major characters to die by the might of his baton for no other adequate reason than because he feels like it. No. Seriously. He even tries to justify it by saying that it's because they're all part of his dream. So, basically, boys and girls, every time you have a dream from now on...
Murder every single fucker in it; what's the worse that could happen?
OH YES, YOU COULD PISS OFF THE PLAYER WITH LAME PLOT TWISTS, THAT'S WHAT!
Murder every single fucker in it; what's the worse that could happen?
OH YES, YOU COULD PISS OFF THE PLAYER WITH LAME PLOT TWISTS, THAT'S WHAT!
GRRR I HAVE FURY.
The Escapist (movie not website). It's a good film about a prison break, but the end.
It turns out the main character actually died at the start of the breakout. A major WTF. What the hell have we been watching for
the last hour?
It turns out the main character actually died at the start of the breakout. A major WTF. What the hell have we been watching for
the last hour?