Lawsuit Blames Oblivion For Pilot's Seizure

[BoogieManFL]

I've played that game a lot. I don't remember any odd/intense strobing effects anywhere.. I don't think even lots of spell effects going off at once would really reproduce that.

 

[Jonathan Bradford]

He doesn't deserve to be awarded anything, and I hope that the judge sees this as well.

 

[Silent Eagle]

What a stupid fucking pilot, There are symptoms of a epi-something seizure altered vision,muscle twitches,light headedness, just to name a few.

This dumbkopf mustve played the dick out of this game and in the dark too, to result in an actual seizure.
When you feel any of these symptoms STOP PLAYING THE GAME AND CONSULT A DOCTOR. Says so on the 1st page, actually not even the 1st page,the other side of the damn cover!

Bethesda will bring this up in court just watch

 

[CardinalPiggles]

wow, get a life, jeez. yet again the blame for someones misfortune is placed on games.
Bethesda, ***** slap this guy into next year.

i don't rememberer strobe lighting effects in oblivion.

thats what i was thinking, there are much worse games with that sort of thing in them.

 

[Alorxico]

Also, I don't remember there being any flashy strobe-like effects in Oblivion. The closest thing I could think of would be the lightning spell effect, but I highly doubt you'd get a seizure from that.

Unless he had a disco mod, in which case he is beyond help. Also, doesn't that spell takes a little over a second to cast, so how would it violate the 3 flashes rule?

 

[II2]

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pfffft thats tame ive spent years trying to find a vid that can cause me to have seizures and that didnt even give me a queasy sensation like some of the better ones do

Well don't just scoff, hook a brother up, yo.

If you don't want to derail the thread with a cyclone of op art video links, at least PM me some of the best or something.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I think there were a few Shivering Isles screenshots used in this video at about 0:30-35, but at least it came with a warning:

Spoiler: the video

Beyond all the flashing lights, I'm fairly certain this video is also cursed; just for you consideration.

pfffft thats tame ive spent years trying to find a vid that can cause me to have seizures and that didnt even give me a queasy sensation like some of the better ones do

its probably because of the low quality. that in 1080p might give you a reaction.

 

[Irridium]

Normally this sort of lawsuit would be met by rolling eyes and audible scoffs -- have a look at the comments if you don't believe me -- but I think this case might actually serve an important purpose, regardless of its eventual outcome. Game packaging has specifically warned consumers about the danger of seizures as far back as I can remember, and while you'd think that would sink McLaughlin's case by itself, it's entirely possible that the court would rule in his favor simply by virtue of the fact that no one actually reads those warnings.

Nobody reads EULA's either, yet those seem to be doing just fine.

 

[IamGamer41]

Talk to me Goose! Talk to me!

 

[AetherWolf]

Well, I admit his reason for suing is more reasonable than most cases, I agree with the dozens of others in this thread that the game has warnings.

And I imagine the flashing wasn't so bad... this IS after that infamous Pokemon case after all, and since then the media has been pretty strict.

 

[kasperbbs]

Seems like someone is trying to get some easy buck since he just lost his job, he might as well sue the company that made his TV and the guy who made his sofa, the more the merrier.

 

[Mrrrgggrlllrrrg]

OT: it's a shame but do they really need to strip him of his flying credentials?

Yes, people with any history of epilepsy are immediately disqualified from all classes of pilot licences. There are very few exceptions but if you've had a seizure in your adulthood you cannot be a pilot. It's about safety.

OT: Been said before, there are numerous warnings on the box and in the manual, end thread. It sucks but legally he has nothing and at this point is just blaming. Also personally I dont think he's out to make a quick buck, many former pilots I have talked with absolutely loved to fly and being on the ground is like loss of all freedom.

 

[Vykrel]

sounds like he has epilepsy... should he have even been allowed to fly in the first place? seems like there would be certain things during flight that might trigger a seizure, the least of which being some punk kid shining a laser light into his cockpit

 

[WorldCritic]

...Really? I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but this is just stupid. Also I don't remember any strobe effects in Oblivian.

 

[Velociferocks]

OT: it's a shame but do they really need to strip him of his flying credentials?

Imagine having a siezure while piloting a jet going a 1000 kph, I don't think that will end up very well.

 

[Choppaduel]

I think there were a few Shivering Isles screenshots used in this video at about 0:30-35, but at least it came with a warning:


Beyond all the flashing lights, I'm fairly certain this video is also cursed; just for you consideration.

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I don't remember any strobes, like the ones in the video, in oblivion or the expansion/dlc.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

So, because someone failed to read the warning, the judge will side with him? Lord I hope not, because if that's the case, then ALL BETS ARE OFF. Anyone could sue anything because, "I didn't read the warning label."
I burned my face when I used hairspray near an open flame. Didn't read the label, so it's the company's fault. The horror this case could cause.

 

[Moon_Called]

Well I don't blame him for having a seizure. I think last time I played Oblivion, I fell off my chair from sheer boredom. Those are the same things, right?
Do note that I'm sure Oblivion is a fine game, I just didn't enjoy it. Plz not to be flaming

 

[thePyro_13]

"The product was so designed that it exceeded the upper acceptable limit of more than 3 flashes over a 1 second period, as well as acceptable spatial pattern and luminance flash limits."

I think games should probably stay within the bounds of safe visuals, I'm not saying we shouldn't have flashing lights and other seizure catalysts, but if the intensity and frequency is known to be harmful to normal eyesight or brain function(ie. causes headaches and so on) then developers should be avoiding those frequency's.

I din't think this is about the games packaging so much as the larger issue of when visual effects become harmful to everyday customers.

I don't know if oblivions graphic fall into this category(I haven't played it much), but I have played games that cause eye strain and can incite headaches. I'd like for developers to know to avoid those type of things.