Yeah, go ahead and keep thinking that. Take offense to the supportive words I sent toward the OP for dealing with negative comments that he shouldn't have to, I don't care. None of that is going to change the stereotype that Xbox users are a bunch of drunk, racist frat-boys looking to take down "dem terrorists". Just because you and the OP are exceptions doesn't break the rule.DJjaffacake said:
It's a fact that consoles cater to the lowest common denominator, so trying to pretend otherwise is just disingenuous. I don't doubt you have some counter examples lined up, but unless you think you can name off roughly 1/3rd of the games market under the heading of that list, you're just going to be lying to yourself. "LCD" games can still be fun, but when that is all there is to play in the whole market, gamers who want more than that start to get edgy. Everyone else is happy just picking up their next copy of Call of Duty year after year like it's the Madden franchise. I didn't pull out my SNES this weekend because I needed a hefty dose of nostalgia, gameplay design may have been more brutal than most people have patience for, but it also was far more rewarding and enjoyable to play.
I fail to see how that has anything to do with what I said. AT WORST, it's normal versus asinine. PCs generally offer better expereinces for a cheaper price than consoles. Saying it's about "good vs evil" is inflating the issue while saying its too overblown to begin with.Immortal_Engines said:
Somehow, you sound like you're still missing the point. Maybe I didn't read enough of the thread (first page is enough for me in conversations like this), but I saw no one attacking the OP for enjoying his console. He never once said it was the better choice, just what he had the most fun with. No one should even attempt to counter that point. Anyone should just enjoy games regardless of platform.
The reason why we have this argument in the first place is because since the current console generation started, the games that everyone used to enjoy are becoming less enjoyable, and more disposable. It's like getting a burger at Denny's (or insert your favorite sit-in restaurant here) and being served a McDonald's dollar menu instead. You can still enjoy McD's, but that doesn't mean you will be satisfied with what you got.
So why are consoles under fire? Surely it's the developers that are the issue? Yes and no. You say you spend 80%-90% of your time on PC games. Have you not seen the games that leave Xbox button icons in the game? What about option menus that have no options? Or what about the games that promised hundreds of features, but you found the way they offered it to be shallow? Seriously, read the back of the Bioshock case. It promises a lot of cool sounding features, but in-game they are just shallow options to give you something to do instead of being game changers. All of that is because the design is meant to accommodate a gamepad. Bioshock was still a great game, but it was in spite of those limitations instead of because of them. So why do console players deserve the ire more than the developers? It's because they are willing to buy them. They proved that people were willing to spend more money ($60 instead of $50) for less gameplay, and that they were willing to do it over and over again. Even if you aren't EA or Activision, the prospect of being paid more to do less is an attractive one. Attempting to copy that success is what any dev would hope for, and thus we get shitty games because shitty people buy them on shitty machines for shitty prices. PC gamers aren't absolved of that responsibility entirely, but market data shows they aren't necessarily a force to even shift trends like what I'm talking about here.
