Let the incest begin!

[Reboare]

Since they're using a surrogate mother, the problem of harmful genetic traits being passed down is irrelevant.
Of course it's pretty disgusting considering that's what social conditioning has made me believe (and with good reason obviously), but it's still pretty weird. The massive age gap combined with it being incest is pretty icky.
Also why the hell did they go to the press with this?

 

[Klarinette]

Dude, it's called PlentyOfFish.com. I'm sure you could find someone a lot like her, minus 50 years =/

I've seen a lot of things like "who are we to question their love" and stuff like that, but even if you ignore the incest, the age gap alone is a terrible thing. Fortunately, she's not actually having their baby, but the kid's going to suffer a massive broken heart when she dies. You know, with her being 72 and all, it's bound to happen long before he even thinks about his own mortality.

Wait... I'm confused. Why the Hell would they bother having a baby if it's not technically theirs? Surrogate mother and a donor egg... if it's because they want a baby together, then they should have just adopted, because it's not an option for them to have a baby. I hope they don't think this counts, just because his sperm is in it. *reads more* Oh god, they do.

Faith in humanity: -...whatever I had left.

 

[Shpongled]

You guys realise the only reason you find it wrong is because its been socially ingrained in you to think its wrong?

Actually, for me it has nothing to do with social norms. There's something icky feeling about it when I think of it.

I get the same feeling when I think of cannibalism. It think it's more instinctual than cultural, in my case at least. I don't see any moral problems with it.

I don't see any reason to stop it for others. It just grosses me out to think of my relatives on any level other than relatives. It goes much deeper than what society has decided is okay.

Exactly this. All animals (including humans) instinctually seek mates outside of their own genepool, this creates diversity and thus, evolution. Inbreeding does not achieve any of this, so it's not just wrong socially, any feelings of 'that' kind of love go against every instinct we have.

Homosexuality is evolutionary suicide, if having offspring with a chance of a defect goes against instinct, what does not reproducing at all go against? Despite this i still think homosexuals should be free to do whatever the hell they want without people making threads on forums about how disgusting it is.

The planet is overpopulated. Maybe homosexuality is the answer. Removing people from adding to the population but still giving them that sense of love (sexual and otherwise) for another. Incest is none of these things.

Wut? Are you telling me that humans have evolved to the point where our best course of progression is to kill ourselves? If so, how does severe genetic defects not do the same thing?

 

[Carnagath]

The planet is overpopulated. Maybe homosexuality is the answer. Removing people from adding to the population but still giving them that sense of love (sexual and otherwise) for another. Incest is none of these things.

I must apologize for barging into your discussion, but, without any intent to offend, this is without doubt the most ridiculous thing I have heard or read all year. Congratulations!

 

[TheSteeleStrap]

I am against anything people can do that twists genetics and makes little mutant babies, except atomic weapons in dire circumstances of course.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

You guys realise the only reason you find it wrong is because its been socially ingrained in you to think its wrong?

Because you are seperate from humanity, sitting and watching us lonely mortals run our hectic day to day lives?

Give me a break.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You guys realise the only reason you find it wrong is because its been socially ingrained in you to think its wrong?

Actually, for me it has nothing to do with social norms. There's something icky feeling about it when I think of it.

I get the same feeling when I think of cannibalism. It think it's more instinctual than cultural, in my case at least. I don't see any moral problems with it.

I don't see any reason to stop it for others. It just grosses me out to think of my relatives on any level other than relatives. It goes much deeper than what society has decided is okay.

Exactly this. All animals (including humans) instinctually seek mates outside of their own genepool, this creates diversity and thus, evolution. Inbreeding does not achieve any of this, so it's not just wrong socially, any feelings of 'that' kind of love go against every instinct we have.

Homosexuality is evolutionary suicide, if having offspring with a chance of a defect goes against instinct, what does not reproducing at all go against? Despite this i still think homosexuals should be free to do whatever the hell they want without people making threads on forums about how disgusting it is.

The planet is overpopulated. Maybe homosexuality is the answer. Removing people from adding to the population but still giving them that sense of love (sexual and otherwise) for another. Incest is none of these things.

Wut? Are you telling me that humans have evolved to the point where our best course of progression is to kill ourselves? If so, how does severe genetic defects not do the same thing?

Having no babies is better than introducing babies born from incest into the genepool (I know these two are not inbreeding but still), We don't have a population crisis in terms of low numbers, if anything, there are too many people. Homesexuality stops numbers from rising, which slightly lowers the consumption of resources, thus actually helping mankind grow in respect to heterosexuals.
Sorry if that offended anyone or didn't make much sense. I can't be arsed to write a whole page.

 

[Zorg Machine]

I will answer this thread with the most resolute, powerful and justified answer known to man...meh.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

Could someone tell me why I should care at all about this?
They're both consenting, I see no reason why they can't roll in the hay.

Frankly it's no one else's business but theirs.

 

[William Ossiss]

oh you humans and your sick, sick, twisted lustful ways...

 

[mikecoulter]

What the hell? How can people do this kind of thing? They need their heads looking at...

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The planet is overpopulated. Maybe homosexuality is the answer. Removing people from adding to the population but still giving them that sense of love (sexual and otherwise) for another. Incest is none of these things.

I must apologize for barging into your discussion, but, without any intent to offend, this is without doubt the most ridiculous thing I have heard or read all year. Congratulations!

No problem, I sort of agree with you. It does make very little sense. I know what I mean but I don't think I'm intelligent enough to convey it in a way that makes sense.

 

[Caiti Voltaire]

Why shouldn't it be ok? They aren't having a child themselves so no risk of genetic defects. Obviously there moral questions regarding a 72 year old adopting, but thats nothing to do with incest.

A few hundreds years ago it was considered disgusting for a white woman to have sex with a black man. Same story with homosexuality.

Not saying i'm into it, but the sooner we leave illogical taboo's behind the better.

It is not illogical for people to have an aversion to incest. It dilutes the genepool and causes genetic defects. This aversion is biological - though it is indeed reinforced with social norms. In this case it is not so much nature or nurture as both.

That said, in the case of it being a surrogate, well, that's kind of a catch, isn't it? If they're not diluting the genepool, then honestly, it's no longer my place to say much. Personally, I disprove, I think the age gap there makes me wonder about the sincerity of things, BUT they're both consenting adults, so they can do whatever they want so long as it doesn't harm someone else.

Would have to suck for the kid though. They'd be losing a parent pretty early on, probability is.

 

[chenry]

BRB GOING TO KILL MYSELF.

Oh.

Well, I guess I can't brb 'cos I'll be dead.

 

[Shpongled]

Having no babies is better than introducing babies born from incest into the genepool (I know these two are not inbreeding but still), We don't have a population crisis in terms of low numbers, if anything, there are too many people. Homesexuality stops numbers from rising, which slightly lowers the consumption of resources, thus actually helping mankind grow.
Sorry if that offended anyone or didn't make much sense. I can't be arsed to write a whole page.

Whats the difference between a baby that dies at an early age and a baby that doesn't exist. Either way, that isn't how evolution works.

You're clutching at straws here man.

I do agree btw, the idea of sleeping with anyone in my family sounds vile. But then again, i don't particularly enjoy the thought of having a penis in my mouth either, doesn't mean im gonna point and laugh at them. They're just different.

 

[Lexodus]

Incest is one thing. Incest with your fucking gran is another. That's fucking disgusting.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

I Think this says it all

Pretty much.

I'm one of those people who don't mind it at all, but wouldn't do it either. It's like smoking and drinking to me. I wont do them ever, but I will let others do it whenever.

 

[Aptspire]

Ew. Bit on the disgusting side
the US just went down in my 'respect' meter (after rising a bit from its improving healthcare)

 

[Elburzito]

Just... just...
Ugh....
Faith in Humanity=-400

-400?!
Mine has passed that mark AGES ago.

 

[Denamic]

To each their own.
It's very eww, to be sure, but it has to be allowed in a secular society.
I mean, there's no reasonable argument to ban it.
Genetics as an argument cannot really be used, as banning incest because of that would be eugenics.
Moral arguments falls short as well, because morals are extremely subjective and imposing morals is in direct violation of basic freedoms.
Consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they wish with each other.
Other people should stay out of their business.

Besides, humanity itself is the product of primate incest, so it can't be all that bad, can it?