Let's Not Ban RapeLay

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BehattedWanderer

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I believe in the right to choose. As an adult, if you understand that this behavior is illegal, then by all means, play the game, it's no worse than some of the porn readily available for free on the net. Censoring this without censoring that is a bit...insipid, really.
 

Pokedude1013

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Oh look it's the video game community hating on the news community for doing their job: giving people interesting stories so they can get angry about something and then forget they cared about it; the media's not gonna stop and I don't really care if they try to ban video games and stuff, they're not gonna ban video games because it makes too much money. And if they do ban video games like rapelay, good for them, I wouldn't play such a dumb thing anyway. Actually I think i might try it.
 

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Im not for censorship in any way, so that alone makes me not want any banning done. Aside from that, its a fucking game. Its ok for graphic vicious killings of thousands, but we draw the line and loose our shit when one cheap sex game is made about a rape fantasy, one that is increadibly popular with hentai. What a hypocracy we live in! Dont get me wrong, real rape, and violence along with that, is horrible and dispicable, but censorship is such a wrong doing in terms of human rights I dont support banning anything but the most vile atrocious shit out there, not a cheap video game. I also dont support shitty news orginizations that finaly found something new to them, but thats been out for like 4 years, and regardless of any research just come to conclusions. Shit, if anything, this game helps some of those truly sick people who would go out and rape get their crazy fill without having the actual act done.
 

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I always thought that you have to be either completely for censorship or completely against it. Either you agree that some things are too bad, and the government has to have the right to say what you can and can't watch, or you say that one must be free to look at everything. Either you agree the government may have the right to ban Bocage's poetry and the Communist Manifesto and The DaVinci Code if it finds it's bad for society or you agree that it should allow rape games and pedophilia stories and what have you. This is because there is no middle point. There is for one person, but when you're making a law you can't write it into it, you can't say to what point something can be protected because there's no way to write it that can't be interpretated differently later, so either you go along with it or you don't.

There's a great article on Neil Gaiman's blog about it, someone less lazy than I should try to find out. Two quotes that are relevant: "Law is not a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer." (I.e., you can't draw a fine line on what you can and can't forbid, because that's just not how it works.) And, of course, "If you don't stand up for the things you don't like, when they come for the things you like, you've already lost."
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
Of course we shouldn't ban it I mean wtf? Why should we ban it? Is this the old bullshit claim that if you play a rape game you're automatically a rapist yourself? Riiight. I suppose that if you see gay you do gay aswell then? If you play GTA IV then you're a fucking psychopath that needs to be chained to the bathroom pipes every night in case you get any funny ideas like killing your neighboor with a lawnmower..?

It's bullshit. Games are a form of escapism, what seperates it from books and movies etc is that it's interactive. If we have a fantasy that we desperatly we want to live out what better way to role-play than in a game. I have a drivers license but I would never dream of driving reclessly like a fucking idiot. That's what racing games are for, or GTA IV with it's uber realism
The difference between mainstream games and things like this as I see it is the word mainstream itself. People will play CoD or they will play GTA without actually wanting to go out and kill people or steal cars or whatnot, it's just a bit of fun. With things like this however I get the feeling, as do a lot of people as comments in this thread seem to show, that the only people who would be attracted to RapeLay are the ones who would be most likely to act upon their fantasies.

Foggy_Fishburne said:
If I want to kill people [...] it certainly doesn't mean I'm a lunatic
..yes, yes it does...


On a side note, has anyone any idea how games such as this would relate to England's Extreme Porn Act? [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/24/extreme_pron_law_live/] Surely they'd fall foul of it, thus making them illegal?
 

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The fact that these games exist sickens me, but censorship sickens me at least as much, so I will never be fully in favour of a complete ban. Just let me keep the right to think of those who want to play them as purile arseholes :)
 

Dark Angel Warlord

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Andy Chalk said:
Let's Not Ban RapeLay

Banning videogames about rape sounds like a good idea. Here's why it's not.

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only a truly sick disturbed person would get any joy out of raping a female ( or male i dunno they could have gay rape games for all i know )

u have to be sick and twisted to get your shits and giggles out of terrorizing s virutal person

whats the matter not big enough in real life to get a date in real life so u have to rape them in a game thats sick and twisted and games like that will bring about the downfall of videogames
thats the kinda stuff like snuff films are to porn movies
keep in black market places away from folks with decency and morals
yes i play videogames and some of the most violent
but i dont go commit crimes

but the FBI did a study on this website a few years ago it was a rape fantasy site and they monitored the site for a few months and they found most of the people who signed up are convicted sex offenders

it was on the news like 2 months ago
 

Dark Angel Warlord

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dannymc18 said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
Of course we shouldn't ban it I mean wtf? Why should we ban it? Is this the old bullshit claim that if you play a rape game you're automatically a rapist yourself? Riiight. I suppose that if you see gay you do gay aswell then? If you play GTA IV then you're a fucking psychopath that needs to be chained to the bathroom pipes every night in case you get any funny ideas like killing your neighboor with a lawnmower..?

It's bullshit. Games are a form of escapism, what seperates it from books and movies etc is that it's interactive. If we have a fantasy that we desperatly we want to live out what better way to role-play than in a game. I have a drivers license but I would never dream of driving reclessly like a fucking idiot. That's what racing games are for, or GTA IV with it's uber realism
The difference between mainstream games and things like this as I see it is the word mainstream itself. People will play CoD or they will play GTA without actually wanting to go out and kill people or steal cars or whatnot, it's just a bit of fun. With things like this however I get the feeling, as do a lot of people as comments in this thread seem to show, that the only people who would be attracted to RapeLay are the ones who would be most likely to act upon their fantasies.

Foggy_Fishburne said:
If I want to kill people [...] it certainly doesn't mean I'm a lunatic
..yes, yes it does...


On a side note, has anyone any idea how games such as this would relate to England's Extreme Porn Act? [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/24/extreme_pron_law_live/] Surely they'd fall foul of it, thus making them illegal?
thats the problem some people cant tell teh differance between fantasy and reality

you and i know stealing cars and commiting virutal crimes in a videogame is fun
but never do them in real life
but some sick twisted people cant tell the differance and will go to the extreme and go too far
 

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Personal responsibility and accountability is something that has to exist on both sides of the fence, both the content creators and the consumers of content. While I am not for banning things either, I do have to call-out game developers for stirring up trouble by introducing such games. While one is allowed freedom of speech and personal expression, it is expected that one will be mature and rational to know when and where something is appropriate(for instance, going to church in a bikini is not a good idea, no matter how great you may look in it). It is expected that one is mature and rational enough to realize the effects one's words and actions can have on others and to be appropriately considerate. When people fail to have such maturity and persistently abuse this freedom such to cause unrest, you get these slippery slopes of censorship and banning started.

As for myself, normally in situations with controversial content, any problems I have is usually not with the what but the how and why. Basically, is the content necessary to the story, flow, and portrayed reality of the game, or is it just the developer shamelessly inserting some trite geek fetish? (This game is probably a poor example on that particular point because the whole game is about committing rape; how can you have a rape game and no rape actually occurs?)

Be that as it all may, I will say that I find this particular game in poor taste and definitely not something I would purchase or play under any circumstance, even for the sake of curiosity.
 

annoyinglizardvoice

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dannymc18 said:
On a side note, has anyone any idea how games such as this would relate to England's Extreme Porn Act? [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/24/extreme_pron_law_live/] Surely they'd fall foul of it, thus making them illegal?
Actually, the poor graphics of these sort of games (if the descriptions one of the posters on this topic gave earlier are acurate), then they might be uneffected as the victims are clearly not real people.
 

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I'm violently anti-censorship due to the fact that I believe that people should have the freedom to express themselves however they please (so long as they aren't harming others... unless those people are into that sort of thing), so it's no surprise that I'm against banning Rapelay. Sure I'm not going to go buy it, but I believe that if a person who is mature enough to handle it wants to, then they should be allowed to. Hell, if you banned everything with rape in it, the Bible would be out of store instantly (you know that story about Joseph and the multicolored coat that has been made into several movies, some of which are for kids? Guess what, his sister was raped, making those brothers of his form a plan to kill the offender and his family when they asked for her to be married to him knowing that she couldn't refuse now. Their method? Agree if his family were circumsized. They did that, and the brother rode through and killed them as they tried to recover. Yeah, and you teach kids the story that comes after that without any problems) as would several other classic pieces of literature. And then we know this wouldn't end. Next would be any games with too much violence (with a definition of too much becoming more and more broadly).
 

Dark Angel Warlord

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theres no fun or joy in commiting RAPE i mean wtf is wrong with anyone in favor of this type of game what u get hard on raping some fake virtual person? wow what low self esteem u must have to get joy out of commiting one of the most dispictable sins rape and anything to do with children involving sexually should not be made into videogames
 

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Delock said:
I'm violently anti-censorship due to the fact that I believe that people should have the freedom to express themselves however they please (so long as they aren't harming others... unless those people are into that sort of thing), so it's no surprise that I'm against banning Rapelay. Sure I'm not going to go buy it, but I believe that if a person who is mature enough to handle it wants to, then they should be allowed to. Hell, if you banned everything with rape in it, the Bible would be out of store instantly (you know that story about Joseph and the multicolored coat that has been made into several movies, some of which are for kids? Guess what, his sister was raped, making those brothers of his form a plan to kill the offender and his family when they asked for her to be married to him knowing that she couldn't refuse now. Their method? Agree if his family were circumsized. They did that, and the brother rode through and killed them as they tried to recover. Yeah, and you teach kids the story that comes after that without any problems) as would several other classic pieces of literature. And then we know this wouldn't end. Next would be any games with too much violence (with a definition of too much becoming more and more broadly).
yeah but the bible is not videogames plus it was written thousands of years ago and who knows who editted what over the years and put in what they wanted in

we are talking about RAPE
would u like to know some sicko is playing a virutal game where he downloads a photo of your mom or sister or girlfriend onto the game and can virual rape her and terrorize her>?? thats sick and twisted
 

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Dark Angel Warlord said:
Delock said:
I'm violently anti-censorship due to the fact that I believe that people should have the freedom to express themselves however they please (so long as they aren't harming others... unless those people are into that sort of thing), so it's no surprise that I'm against banning Rapelay. Sure I'm not going to go buy it, but I believe that if a person who is mature enough to handle it wants to, then they should be allowed to. Hell, if you banned everything with rape in it, the Bible would be out of store instantly (you know that story about Joseph and the multicolored coat that has been made into several movies, some of which are for kids? Guess what, his sister was raped, making those brothers of his form a plan to kill the offender and his family when they asked for her to be married to him knowing that she couldn't refuse now. Their method? Agree if his family were circumsized. They did that, and the brother rode through and killed them as they tried to recover. Yeah, and you teach kids the story that comes after that without any problems) as would several other classic pieces of literature. And then we know this wouldn't end. Next would be any games with too much violence (with a definition of too much becoming more and more broadly).
yeah but the bible is not videogames plus it was written thousands of years ago and who knows who editted what over the years and put in what they wanted in

we are talking about RAPE
would u like to know some sicko is playing a virutal game where he downloads a photo of your mom or sister or girlfriend onto the game and can virual rape her and terrorize her>?? thats sick and twisted
as long as he's not ACTUALLY raping people, I say let him do what he wants.
 

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although i can't condone a game about "the joys of raping" (ok, honestly, that some pretty sick shit.) i'm all for expressing your sexuality but you don't see us americans bannig bondage films. Have you ever been to the romance novel section at Borders?! If they ban games (although i think rape games should be the exception. casual sex games are fine. ban them froms stores and make them online only)they might as well ban those Zane books i see 12-16 reading.
 

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Damn good points all around, a game will not make murders, a game will not make a rapist.

They may satisfy those two groups, but they didn't make them, they've existed since the dawn of human existence.
 

Dark Angel Warlord

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Altorin said:
Dark Angel Warlord said:
Delock said:
I'm violently anti-censorship due to the fact that I believe that people should have the freedom to express themselves however they please (so long as they aren't harming others... unless those people are into that sort of thing), so it's no surprise that I'm against banning Rapelay. Sure I'm not going to go buy it, but I believe that if a person who is mature enough to handle it wants to, then they should be allowed to. Hell, if you banned everything with rape in it, the Bible would be out of store instantly (you know that story about Joseph and the multicolored coat that has been made into several movies, some of which are for kids? Guess what, his sister was raped, making those brothers of his form a plan to kill the offender and his family when they asked for her to be married to him knowing that she couldn't refuse now. Their method? Agree if his family were circumsized. They did that, and the brother rode through and killed them as they tried to recover. Yeah, and you teach kids the story that comes after that without any problems) as would several other classic pieces of literature. And then we know this wouldn't end. Next would be any games with too much violence (with a definition of too much becoming more and more broadly).
yeah but the bible is not videogames plus it was written thousands of years ago and who knows who editted what over the years and put in what they wanted in

we are talking about RAPE
would u like to know some sicko is playing a virutal game where he downloads a photo of your mom or sister or girlfriend onto the game and can virual rape her and terrorize her>?? thats sick and twisted
as long as he's not ACTUALLY raping people, I say let him do what he wants.
yeah but what if someone plays rape videogame then goes out and rapes someone and does what he does to them in the game

like example
someone is stalking jennifer
he cant have her he dont have courage to ask her out
so he photographs her and downloads her image to the game where he rapes her in the game
then he snaps one day and cant tell fantasy from reality and goes and rapes jennifer in real life